He plays for Manchester United, we have scored 2+ goals pr. game on average in the league, we are the third highest scoring team - we are currently 2nd in the table. He has service FFS! With better runs and movement, he will get more chances.
Romelu Lukaku vs Alvaro Morata 2017/18
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He plays for Manchester United, we have scored 2+ goals pr. game on average in the league, we are the third highest scoring team - we are currently 2nd in the table. He has service FFS! With better runs and movement, he will get more chances.
scored 25 for everton last year. That is the calibre of striker he is, in a poor team. It's going to be bad if we can't get him enough chances to score more than everton can.
Says it all.
Before Lukaku was ManUtd player:
But since he has joined you his overall game has not improved, he may still be finishing chances and he is still clinical and a great poacher. But I have seen no improvements in the other aspects, as I said above it does count for something the amount of goals he scores but its not that which I'm questioning (or for that matter that anyone questions when they slate lukaku).
Go and check the video in Lukaku thread and see how many chances he has created. This shitting on Lukaku and overrating Morata is getting pathetic now.
Morata is praised for missing chances now, saying at least he is involved
How can he be praised when I just said its the weakest part of his game the fact he isn't clinical enough.
Lukaku and Morata plays same number of passes (lukaku slightly more than Morata), same number chances created, same number of dribblers completed per game. On top of that Lukaku wins more than double aerial duels and at better win %.
Morata also averages more unsuccessful touches and dispossessed than Lukaku. It's just you see what you want to see, simple as that.
Its weird that if I choose to see it this way along with a good majority of neutral (Non united/Chelsea fans) that we just fabricate this out of no where. Strange that unbiased people with no win in the matter still seem to prefer Morata to Lukaku also, but the ones that don't are united fans.
Neutral fans
It's not who prefers which players, it's your blatant bsing about Lukaku.
There's probably not a lot of difference between each players impact overall. Similar goals and assists etc.
Lukaku did cost £17m more though.
Lukaku did cost £17m more though.
In the last couple of months, he's been getting a few decent chances but has fluffed his lines when it mattered. He is part of the problem in attack.
I expected the limited technical ability when we signed him, but I also expected him to be more clinical than what he has shown so far.
Neutral fans
It's not who prefers which players, it's your blatant bsing about Lukaku.
I'm not biased and I have never once said he is not a good player, just feel Morata could make the step up to becoming an elite player, but it will be harder for Lukaku due to said lack of ability. I could be proven wrong and I don't feel theres much between the two, but I do feel Morata is the better player.
Make up your mind.
There isn't anything between the 2, if you think Lukaku was such a donkey with no passing ability or vision then he wouldn't have created so many goal scoring chances or complete so many dribbles.
You just overrate Morata making excuses for everything. You even make excuses for him missing the chances saying at least he is involved. Lukaku gets shit loads of abuse for missing any chance. That's the difference.
Lukaku missed easy chance against Watford when we were 3-0 up, he was abused and got lot of criticism. Morata missed easy chance when Chelsea were 1-0 down against Roma, no one gives a shit or remember it.
Once again because it seems you may have a few difficulties, I do not feel Morata is that clinical a striker.
At this current moment in time, I believe there is not too much between them both. Morata despite missing all these easy chances has scored the same amount of goals in about 3/4 less games than him so has obviously a better goal scoring rate.
I think we will have to agree to disagree because taking goal scoring out of the equation (Which has just been explained above) you would be hard pushed to find many that think Lukaku is a better player than Morata.
My point is about there potential and the fact that Morata will get used to the league and adapt but Lukaku will struggle to improve natural ability that is not there.
That's what I was talking about, that's just nonsense. I don't think anyone is arguing who is better player, it's just some Chelsea fans shit posting about Lukaku as if he is some donkey with only physical attributes.
I have even posted all his goals from last season and you still think he relies on physical attributes, that itself says everything. Either you can't see past his physical attributes or you are just bitter for some reason which is even weird.
you should have watched him at west brom and everton, then you would have more evidence to go on re: clinical finishing. I did, he is a clinical finisher.
@roonster09 Fair play mate, you've called out the Chelsea fan bullshit brilliantly in here.
It's getting tiresome isn't it?
Lukaku seems to have added some bulk since last season (looking at the highlights reel) , that is not good (even though its muscle) and will not assist with his movement or stamina.. needs addressing asap.
There's nothing wrong with thinking Morata has more potential. Fans here get very worked up and angry about Lukaku and if someone doesn't rate him that highly. As if people are being unfair or something.
The problem is not having your opinion but to expect others to follow suit. There is nothing to prove that lukaku will not improve because Lukaku has improved in some departments. He has been under immense pressure compared to morata yet he gives his best and has scored 15 goals already. People only remember his mistakes that they intentionally choose to not highlight the moments where he provided e golden chances against Leicester or his super link up play which led to 2 goals against arsenal or his super performance against CSKA Moscow and early parts of the season.
I have seen more people getting riled up here when someone defends lukaku if anything.
Morata with 3 awful misses and an assist for the Arsenal goal. Needs to be mentioned here for some balance, as many fans would have us believe that Morata doesn’t miss chances like Lukaku.
Lukaku would be slaughtered for his misses. Lukaku is a better finisher, no doubt.
Due to his physique I think Lukaku has more of an edge/unique thing going for him. Many times this season he has simply just outjumped a defender right there on the spot and headed the ball into the net. Cant compare many players with him.
Morata more of an allround player. Better technique.
Morata more of an allround player. Better technique.
That was a shocking performance let's be honest. Lukaku would be demolished for missing 3 sitters like that
He wasn't allround tonight though, as his hold up play was non-existent and his link up play/passing was awful.
Well this is a bit embarrassing.
Terrible finishing tonight from Morata. Total lack of composure.
Terrible finishing tonight from Morata. Total lack of composure.
Morata was awful tonight, someone said it a couple of pages back and were spot on, for either United or Chelsea to get back on par with City and the European elite we'll need to upgrade that position, fortunately for us we might already have the option in the squad.
Tonight he was shit, hands down. He did however use both his technique, pace and physique in getting to those 4 chances he could/should have scored on
That was the worst performance of the season by Morata, He missed 3 1 on 1's.
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Both are as good and as bad (sometimes) as each other. I guess that's what 75-90mil pounds gets you now.
Are you joking? Lukaku is the player drifting wide, coming deep and playing those little slide rule passes.
Morata falls down under pressure. Misses sitters and relies on crosses to make a an impact rather than anything along the ground.
What does Morata do that' showcases his technique?
Right now, in terms of value for money, £70m for Morata looks almost as bad as £90m for Lukaku.
Sadly true. As if playing for Man Utd didn't attract enough pressure, the media despise Mou so you get double the trouble.
Morata, Lukaku, Lacazette... all fall into the same category for me of good strikers who were bought at high prices because of the lack of talent available. All are doing ok with 10,10, 8 goals respectively but as always Kane is head and shoulders above them. Of the three I feel Lacazette may well be the best finisher from what I have seen this season but he just doesn't really get the game time and is obviously much weaker in the air than the other two.
I think moratas all round play is over exaggerated just like lukaku''s is undermined. I like Morata and still think he is doing fine but neither Morata nor lukaku is world class right now and if I had to bet on one who.would have a better career then I would put my money on Lukaku considering he has already scored plenty for his club and country.
Lukaku was £75m.
and morata was 58
Two of those 1 on 1’s I’d finish coming off of an all night bender with Charlie Sheen on the tiger blood. They were criminal misses. Especially that one to win it, that’s what these guys are brought in for, in the big games, in the last minute you’ve got to stick that away.
Morata was woeful tonight in the finishing department.
Why? Bizarre character
After months of observation and critical reflection i changed my mind: Lukaku is better.