Romelu Lukaku | United confirm deal subject to medical and personal terms

How do you feel about the imminent signing of Romelu Lukaku?

  • Muppetastic!

    Votes: 456 20.6%
  • Happy enough

    Votes: 1,222 55.2%
  • Ambivalent

    Votes: 370 16.7%
  • Disappointed

    Votes: 112 5.1%
  • Oh please god no!

    Votes: 54 2.4%

  • Total voters
    2,214
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Dybala was crap in the CL final but you're doing him a disservice, he's been hacked down for three years and that hasn't stopped him from being arguably the best player in Serie A (top 3 at worst). Pogba and Morata played with him together and it's clear he's on another level to both (Pogba mostly because he's a midfielder).
I didn't say it. I was repeating what the Real fans said. I was definitely right about Higuain.
 
it's funny, if i say berbatov reminds me of Zlatan no one would say it's "racist" . I don't see why it's seen as that when the two people happen to be black , it's so daft.
I've noticed black players are always compared to other black players. Something a bit weird about that.
 
That's because they're actually similar players.

Lukaku is a completely different player to Heskey or Drogba as @Brwned explains.

well if someone doesn't agree that they are similar why is it that the person that made the comparison is doing it because of race related comparisons. and for the record I don't actually think Zlatan and berbatov are similar. I just thought of two eastern European looking strikers to make a point and they fit the bill.
 
There's a lot more similarity skill wise between Zlatan and Berba than Heskey and Lukaku.
that's a fair debate that can be debated... but why does it have to be that because someone disagrees the person who made the comparison is "racist"
 
Can we all stop throwing around the racist card?

Racism is discriminating against someone based upon their race. That hasn't happened in this thread. Nobody has said both Lukaku and Heskey are lazy because they're black.

Comparing Lukaku to Drogba seems obvious from a footballing perspective, and if someone says he reminds them of Heskey then so be it. At worst it's a lazy comparison.

All this does is undermine real efforts to stamp out racism.

I for one am confident Gomis is going to get 25 goals for us this league campaign. I mean Lukaku

Perhaps it's not really racism but the point is that Drogba and Lukaku are almost entirely different styles of striker. Lukaku isn't good on the ball and doesn't hold up play well. Lukaku is a pure finisher and that's all he does really well. Drogba on the other hand was very good in his all round game and even if he wasn't scoring he could still be playing very well, the same can't be said about Lukaku. If anything I'd describe Lukaku as being more similar to Chicharito, in the sense that both are exceptional finishers and goalscorers but no other part of their game stands out and neither act that well as the focal point of build up in attack.

So really, it seems like people just compare Lukaku and Drogba because they are big, black and used to play for Chelsea. If Lukaku was white and didn't used to play for Chelsea I'm not sure people would compare the two. Not saying it's necessarily racist but it's clearly not great when people do that
 
is it weird when white guys are compared with white guys?

Is it weird that black guys are never compared with white guys?

Because that's the point. Black players are only compared with black players.
 
Is it weird that black guys are never compared with white guys?

Because that's the point. Black players are only compared with black players.
Exactly right. The comparison is always between Lukaku and Heskey and never, say, Lukaku and Crouch. Skin colour is clearly a factor.
 
Exactly right. The comparison is always between Lukaku and Heskey and never, say, Lukaku and Crouch. Skin colour is clearly a factor.

I actually thought he was Gomes like at times. Said it to myself though. Probably doesn't count :(
 
Perhaps it's not really racism but the point is that Drogba and Lukaku are almost entirely different styles of striker. Lukaku isn't good on the ball and doesn't hold up play well. Lukaku is a pure finisher and that's all he does really well. Drogba on the other hand was very good in his all round game and even if he wasn't scoring he could still be playing very well, the same can't be said about Lukaku. If anything I'd describe Lukaku as being more similar to Chicharito, in the sense that both are exceptional finishers and goalscorers but no other part of their game stands out and neither act that well as the focal point of build up in attack.

So really, it seems like people just compare Lukaku and Drogba because they are big, black and used to play for Chelsea. If Lukaku was white and didn't used to play for Chelsea I'm not sure people would compare the two. Not saying it's necessarily racist but it's clearly not great when people do that

Lukaku always compared himself to Drogba.
 
Exactly right. The comparison is always between Lukaku and Heskey and never, say, Lukaku and Crouch. Skin colour is clearly a factor.

It absolutely is, despite how much people will try to deny.

I actually thought he was Gomes like at times. Said it to myself though. Probably doesn't count :(

I think a few people have mentioned Gomes and I can certainly see the comparison. I think he's a bigger version of Torres personally.

Certainly Heskey is way off the mark, and if Heskey wasn't black it wouldn't be a comparison.
 
Is it weird that black guys are never compared with white guys?

Because that's the point. Black players are only compared with black players.
what are you talking about... every day on this forum we say Bailly is the new Vidic. we have a thread that's Herrera vs Kante. Black players are compared with whites Chinese are compared with blacks, whites are compared with whites. If someone thinks Heskey and Lukaku are similar why does everyone immediately think they are being done so because of race. Even when the comparison may be correct. It's just as lazy in bringing in race as the reason.
 
The market is straight up stupid at the moment.

Chelsea will prob spend as much on Morata we will spend even more on Mbappe

Surely the bubble has to burst soon...

Wont burst until the revenues that teams get goes down.

And its really England driving the majority of this current activity. The top prem teams are making a lot of money so therefore can spend more.
 
what are you talking about... every day on this forum we say Bailly is the new Vidic. we have a thread that's Herrera vs Kante. Black players are compared with whites Chinese are compared with blacks, whites are compared with whites. If someone thinks Heskey and Lukaku are similar why does everyone immediately think they are being done so because of race. Even when the comparison may be correct. It's just as lazy in bringing in race as the reason.

Just because there are individual exceptions to the rule doesn't negate the fact.
Besides Smalling & Jones were hailed as the new Vidic & Rio despite the fact neither are similar to them. Kante gets compared to Makele & Essien. Pogba gets compared to Viera & Toure etc, the list goes on.

Denying this exists just because it's an uncomfortable topic and it doesn't happen 100% of the time, does more to deflect from the issue.
 
Posted here ages ago.

It is legit

He's telling him he'll see him at training tomorrow

According to sky, that's not what they said, they said Rom said " It was work and there's a meeting tomorrow " and pp replied "what did you say ?" and Rom said the same again.
 
Yes, but there is lots of good football discussion on the Caf as I also said. Look, I'm posting nothing negative, I wont upset those that don't like my views, I'll just casually discuss football with no hassle.


Jesus wept. Stop following United cause we've signed a player. You're a shite fan.
 
Just because there are individual exceptions to the rule doesn't negate the fact.
Besides Smalling & Jones were hailed as the new Vidic & Rio despite the fact neither are similar to them. Kante gets compared to Makele & Essien. Pogba gets compared to Viera & Toure etc, the list goes on.

Denying this exists just because it's an uncomfortable topic and it doesn't happen 100% of the time, does more to deflect from the issue.

I think it's harmless in this instance but you're certainly right that it does happen. It reminds of the type of thing Daniel Kahneman talks about in his book Thinking Fast and Slow.

Great book that.
 
Drogba at the beginning of his career was just as much of a provider as he was at the end of his career. He set up Gudjohnsen on his debut against us, for example. That selflessness and awareness is what places them worlds apart from the beginning. Lukaku is a pure goalscorer in a way Drogba wasn't. He just wasn't clinical enough to have that orientation. It's like comparing Rooney and Alan Smith. No-one would do that even though they share a lot of similar traits. Mostly in terms of race and physique.

That was rare back then. Remember that Drogba was very much criticized in his first season particularly when his performances were analyzed within the context of his price tag. He fell short of expectations. He dived when no one touched him, held on to the ball and tried to score himself when passing was better etc. I could go on and on. He was 26 then, remember? His highest goal tally in France with Marseille a year earlier before he moved to England was 19 when he ended the season as the third highest goal scorer. In his first season at Chelsea, he scored only 16 goals in 40 games.

Drogba was great but people need to remember how he evolved. He got better with time. I remember he was clumsy with the ball when attempting to dribble early in his career at Chelsea but he improved d on it significantly. He was also not known as a dangerous free kick specialist until later. He worked hard on it until he became one of the best.

The one thing Drogba always had was his affinity for the big stage. He was tailor made for it. That is what put him in a totally different class from most others. And it's the one thing I wonder of Lukaku can ever match. But Lukaku is still 24. He can improve. We'll see how well he does so.
 
According to sky, that's not what they said, they said Rom said " It was work and there's a meeting tomorrow " and pp replied "what did you say ?" and Rom said the same again.

I'm not sure that makes sense given Pogba was jubilant afterwards?

I'm sure someone can clarify
 
According to sky, that's not what they said, they said Rom said " It was work and there's a meeting tomorrow " and pp replied "what did you say ?" and Rom said the same again.
Translation from reddit:

RL: My dude

Pog: All good? Is all good?

RL: Yeah I'll see you at training tomorrow.

Pog: See where?

RL: Tomorrow, at training

Pog: What did you say?

RL: Tomorrow at training, I will see you tomorrow at training.

Pog: All squared away.. then yeet yeet

Pog: Yessir (followed by dancing)

RL: Listen man, it's finished!
 
Translation from reddit:

RL: My dude

Pog: All good? Is all good?

RL: Yeah I'll see you at training tomorrow.

Pog: See where?

RL: Tomorrow, at training

Pog: What did you say?

RL: Tomorrow at training, I will see you tomorrow at training.

Pog: All squared away.. then yeet yeet

Pog: Yessir (followed by dancing)

RL: Listen man, it's finished!
Pogba needs to get his ears syringed.:lol:
 
I think it's harmless in this instance but you're certainly right that it does happen. It reminds of the type of thing Daniel Kahneman talks about in his book Thinking Fast and Slow.

Great book that.

I have that book! (great book btw)
It may be harmless - I don't think anyone is intentionally trying to insult Lukaku based on his race or anything like that - but I think it's important not to stifle conversations around race/prejudice because it's uncomfortable, or as if racism only exists in certain situations, and anything else is just 'distracting' from the 'real' conversation about race.

Anyone who experiences racism will tell you that its the micro-aggressions of racism, more than the outward insults/name calling that are more frequent, and that shouldn't be dismissed.
 
Just because there are individual exceptions to the rule doesn't negate the fact.
Besides Smalling & Jones were hailed as the new Vidic & Rio despite the fact neither are similar to them. Kante gets compared to Makele & Essien. Pogba gets compared to Viera & Toure etc, the list goes on.

Denying this exists just because it's an uncomfortable topic and it doesn't happen 100% of the time, does more to deflect from the issue.

Even if this happens, and not just because of footballing similarities, it doesn't make the person seeing those similarities racist.
 
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