His technical ability is nothing special though he's an excellent finisher. I agree the Heskey comparisons are way off as he was hopeless in every sense and relied purely upon his physicality to be a nuisance. Lukaku definitely has more to his game though still not close to Ibra.
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His technical ability is nothing special though he's an excellent finisher. I agree the Heskey comparisons are way off as he was hopeless in every sense and relied purely upon his physicality to be a nuisance. Lukaku definitely has more to his game though still not close to Ibra.
Well said. The Drogba comparison has been there for years and is lazy. Drogba wasn't that prolific actually but he offered a lot more than goals. Bullied the best defenders and had tremendous hold-up play. Drogba could bring his team mates into play and elevated them whereas one issue I've had watching Lukaku is he's not impressed me as a team player. When it came to defending from the front, again Drogba was one of the best forwards for it.
Lukaku is best when he has space to turn into. You don't want him dropping deep because his hold up play is awkward to be kind. He's a beast when facing the goal and going full pelt. Now he may grow into that type of complete striker but I wouldn't hold out for it.
Can we all stop throwing around the racist card?
Racism is discriminating against someone based upon their race. That hasn't happened in this thread. Nobody has said both Lukaku and Heskey are lazy because they're black.
Comparing Lukaku to Drogba seems obvious from a footballing perspective, and if someone says he reminds them of Heskey then so be it. At worst it's a lazy comparison.
All this does is undermine real efforts to stamp out racism.
I for one am confident Gomis is going to get 25 goals for us this league campaign. I mean Lukaku
Racism is discriminating against someone based upon their race. That hasn't happened in this thread. Nobody has said both Lukaku and Heskey are lazy because they're black.
Comparing Lukaku to Drogba seems obvious from a footballing perspective, and if someone says he reminds them of Heskey then so be it. At worst it's a lazy comparison.
All this does is undermine real efforts to stamp out racism.
I for one am confident Gomis is going to get 25 goals for us this league campaign. I mean Lukaku
It's a good thing all tracks and pitches are flat then
Thought he was a flat track bully until a week ago
He still is.
He was/is, but he is United's flat track bully now.Thought he was a flat track bully until a week ago
I don't know. I watch Full Time Devils more than I follow Jackson. I don't think he's been on there since.
What they've implied is big, black strikers all have limited technique, great hold-up play and play like battering rams. They don't. Heskey and Drogba is a lazy comparison. Lukaku is nothing like either of them. He can't play like a selfless battering ram at all. That's more than just a lazy stereotype.
Yes.
Drogba was the perfect target-man, with fantastic technical ability who often compensated for his scarcity of goals with great build-up play and bringing others into play - something which can also be seen by his 54 PL assists. Arguably one of the best big game forwards the PL has seen too, which is quite definitely Lukaku's biggest weakness.
Lukaku really isn't that much of a 'back-to-goal' forward; beyond being very strong - something which Everton fans would argue he sometimes under-utilises* - the parallels aren't really there. Lukaku is a classic no.9, who is quite simply a phenomenal finisher whose first thought is to utilise his speed and movement to create chances for himself rather than hold up play to bring others into play.
* Fourth or fifth paragraph down: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/6llhy2/everton_season_ticket_holder_views_on_lukaku/ -- It's worth a read in general, anyway.
Edit: Or you can just see what @Brwned said. Pretty similar thoughts.
A Player who plays well against lesser teams. Everybody is lesser when you play for Man Utd so what's the problem?He was/is, but he is United's flat track bully now.
Seems Chelsea fans still think they can hijack the deal and Chelsea themselves think Everton sabotaged them on purpose.
Last season United relied on Martial or Rashford to provide that width and speed to create counter attacking chances. With Lukaku's power and speed, it might create even more chances for that. I love me some flat track bullies.
and makes the 90 mil we spent on pogba just 1 year ago look like a steal.
I have no to little faith that they can step up tbh. Rashford will improve with less pressure on his shoulders now, the key is Pogba for me. Pogba has to play in a way that will inspire others.
Because Zlatan was a major part of our chance creation football in football, with his passing and movement (something Lukaku should even be better at tbh but time will tell). What were those stats as soon as he got injured ? Didn't we have major creativity issues after his injuries.
I know you didn't I was using your post highlight a point.No problem there. Didn't say there was a problem in the first place.
That's why Mourinho will have to pick one moving attacking player to play alongside him, be it Rashford or a closer Mata.
Agreed. I've been saying the same thing for years - it's utterly ludicrous the comparison still exists based on nothing beyond race and physique.
So you actually said you will stop following United if Lukaku was signed????
Why would anyone say that?
I urge you to watch this then. He should really have more assits than he has got.
It's like saying, 'That's it I'm never gonna drink again.' You know you aren't gonna stick to it before you say it.So you actually said you will stop following United if Lukaku was signed????
Why would anyone say that?
Lukaku is a lot closer to Torres than Drogba in playing style.
Yes, Lukaku will likely bury chances but more importantly, what we need is the supporting cast to score more. Zlatan did pretty okay scoring last season, but the supporting cast was really poor in scoring terms. Even if Lukaku hits 30 goals in the league next season, if the other attacking players fail to deliver good numbers, we'll end up in 6th position again. We need goals from accross the pitch.
Best move of United's career for Mourinho: stole Lukaku from Conte/Chelsea f…ing Real Madrid in the process and getting rid of Rooney at the same time. Wonderful script!
Aye I was simply saying he's closer to Ibra than Heskey, hence comparing him to Heskey is useless and only done because of their race.
Can you stop undermining racism?
Also there is no 'racist card', there's just racism, people who call it out, and those who choose not to accept it. Thanks.
Also can we stop comparing black people to other black people, or suggesting we are all similar because of our race?
Can't wait for the photos in United shirt.
So you actually said you will stop following United if Lukaku was signed????
Why would anyone say that?
I'm not looking to get in any more hot water here mate, if you are genuinely asking then PM me, if you are just making a statement then cool, no worries.
Your attachment to United was so weak that signing one player was enough of a catalyst to stop supporting the team?
I'm doing the opposite of undermining it. There is racism, and people who rightly call it out. Then there is someone who says one player reminds them of another. That's not discriminating against someone because of their race. All it serves to do is obscure actual instances of racism which are what need highlighting.
Early in his Chelsea career, Drogba had five distinct traits in his game: power, agility, marksmanship, shooting and aerial prowess. Lukaku shares those traits. As time went on, Drogba added and improved three other qualities: better hold up/ link up play, close control, dribbling and dangerous free kicks.
Lukaku is 24. He can improve those traits.
The one trait Drogba always had that Lukaku has not demonstrated is the ability to show up big time at the biggest games. This is the one trait that most separates the two. Unless Lukaku develops this trait, he can never get to Didier's level.
It's pretty pathetic to be honest, people like that are true plastics.
Your attachment to United was so weak that signing one player was enough of a catalyst to stop supporting the team?
Not drogba, But a lot like own own legend Andy cole.
Except nosbosymis comparing Lukaku to Heskey because of their race, which is his point.
Yes. I couldn't get my head round how people thought it was anything but a great deal.
Pogba will prove to be one of our most important signings of the last decade and an absolute bargain.
He's our one superstar character. We need that.
When you put it like that... it's also a steal! Lol
We won't mention all the folks who said they wouldn't watch United again when LvG was here then. People say it all the time for one reason or another, but the pull is still there. I didn't particularly want him either, but I will get over it.
Your attachment to United was so weak that signing one player was enough of a catalyst to stop supporting the team?
Yes and the player hasn't even played yet.
Drogba didn't hold up play well at all during his first two seasons.
He fell under every bit of contact and dived when there wasn't any. Chelsea used Lampard to circulate the ball further forward and used the wins rather than rely on Drogba through the middle.
One of the main criticisms of him was not using his strength to his advantage.
He fell under every bit of contact and dived when there wasn't any. Chelsea used Lampard to circulate the ball further forward and used the wins rather than rely on Drogba through the middle.
One of the main criticisms of him was not using his strength to his advantage.
This is exactly the kind of signing we needed. A fast strong goalscorer who can be the focal point in our attack. I'd love us to sign a really creative winger now so we can have Rashford playing off Lukaku (much like Mbappe does with Falcao, Giroud) Along with another solid midfielder to go with Herrera and Pogba, although maybe I'm asking for a bit much.
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