Romelu Lukaku | United confirm deal subject to medical and personal terms

How do you feel about the imminent signing of Romelu Lukaku?

  • Muppetastic!

    Votes: 456 20.6%
  • Happy enough

    Votes: 1,222 55.2%
  • Ambivalent

    Votes: 370 16.7%
  • Disappointed

    Votes: 112 5.1%
  • Oh please god no!

    Votes: 54 2.4%

  • Total voters
    2,214
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Good stuff! Lukaku is a quality forward and will only get better playing under Mou.
 
The cheek of people having a go at Devil :lol: . A lot made statements during LvG how they wish us to lose games,some are part of United podcast,giving their opinions about United,while wishing us to lose games,what a bunch of jokers. When they did that,i dont remember many making fun of them or having a go,hypocrites,guess as long majority hated LvG it was ok,same how you were licking Custis`s ass during that period.
 
I know the improvement from players in terms of touch rarely happens past a certain age (I ain't talking the stupid limit of 16 years old set by our nutcase caf member Scholesy a long time ago) but I still hope he works on that. Drogba is a good example of a player who had a horrible touch and control earlier in his career to become a fine player with the ball at his feet towards the last 4-5 seasons at his top.
 
I'm doing the opposite of undermining it. There is racism, and people who rightly call it out. Then there is someone who says one player reminds them of another. That's not discriminating against someone because of their race. All it serves to do is obscure actual instances of racism which are what need highlighting.

You're missing a crucial point. Someone suggesting one black person reminds them of another black person, when the comparison is not based on physical features, is suggesting that we are similar based on our race.
Like I said earlier, if someone compared Harry Kane to Anthony Le Tallec because of their physical similarities it would be deemed ridiculous as it should.
But comparing Lukaku to Heskey because they're both big, black & strong is accepted.

Racism is multidimensional and exists in more than assuming one race is suprerior to another, and people shouldn't undermine when all forms racism are called out.
 
I'm not looking to get in any more hot water here mate, if you are genuinely asking then PM me, if you are just making a statement then cool, no worries.

No offence meant mate.
But if you did say that there was no need for it and I hope you don't stop posting stuff here. I don't always agree with you but I think your alternative views make discussions more interesting. It's boring when we all agree on every thing, every time.
 
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Early in his Chelsea career, Drogba had five distinct traits in his game: power, agility, marksmanship, shooting and aerial prowess. Lukaku shares those traits. As time went on, Drogba added and improved three other qualities: better hold up/ link up play, close control, dribbling and dangerous free kicks.

Lukaku is 24. He can improve those traits.

The one trait Drogba always had that Lukaku has not demonstrated is the ability to show up big time at the biggest games. This is the one trait that most separates the two. Unless Lukaku develops this trait, he can never get to Didier's level.

Drogba at the beginning of his career was just as much of a provider as he was at the end of his career. He set up Gudjohnsen on his debut against us, for example. That selflessness and awareness is what places them worlds apart from the beginning. Lukaku is a pure goalscorer in a way Drogba wasn't. He just wasn't clinical enough to have that orientation. It's like comparing Rooney and Alan Smith. No-one would do that even though they share a lot of similar traits. Mostly in terms of race and physique.
 
The cheek of people having a go at Devil :lol: . A lot made statements during LvG how they wish us to lose games,some are part of United podcast,giving their opinions about United,while wishing us to lose games,what a bunch of jokers. When they did that,i dont remember many making fun of them or having a go,hypocrites,guess as long majority hated LvG it was ok,same how you were licking Custis`s ass during that period.

Do you know for sure that those who did that are the same ones who are making (rightly IMO) fun of Devil ?
 
Except nosbosymis comparing Lukaku to Heskey because of their race, which is his point.

What are the similarities between Heskey and Lukaku outside of them both being black & strong?
And why would you compare to a striker like Heskey who's career has been done for over a decade, has there not been other strikers like Torres, Gomez, Ibra etc who have come in that time?
 
I'm indifferent to Lukaku but people seriously arguing that Morata is a better player should give up watching football.
Until Lukaku plays in CL games we will not know. Morata has no nerves in the big, big games and he has played in quite a few. Lukaku is unknown in that capacity. So we will have to wait and see. Also Lukaku has not played at any level for Real or Juventus the same that Morata has not played in the PL. Morata can handle the big occasions, we will all be hoping that Lukaku can do the same and isn't just someone who cleans up against the bottom feeders.
 
No offence meant mate.
But if you did say that there was no need for it and I hope you don't stop posting stuff here. I don't always agree with you but I think you alternative views and make discussions more interesting. It's boring when we all agree on every thing, every time.

Appreciate that mate, I'm sure we'll cross paths during the CL threads and such.
 
I know the improvement from players in terms of touch rarely happens past a certain age (I ain't talking the stupid limit of 16 years old set by our nutcase caf member Scholesy a long time ago) but I still hope he works on that. Drogba is a good example of a player who had a horrible touch and control earlier in his career to become a fine player with the ball at his feet towards the last 4-5 seasons at his top.

If he develops into a player anywhere near as good as Drogba then we'd be doing incredibly well. Sadly I have my doubts.
 
Can we all stop throwing around the racist card?

Racism is discriminating against someone based upon their race. That hasn't happened in this thread. Nobody has said both Lukaku and Heskey are lazy because they're black.

Comparing Lukaku to Drogba seems obvious from a footballing perspective, and if someone says he reminds them of Heskey then so be it. At worst it's a lazy comparison.

All this does is undermine real efforts to stamp out racism.

I for one am confident Gomis is going to get 25 goals for us this league campaign. I mean Lukaku


it's funny, if i say berbatov reminds me of Zlatan no one would say it's "racist" . I don't see why it's seen as that when the two people happen to be black , it's so daft.
 
I don't really recall Morata in the big bit occasions for Spain or Real......
 
Found it on Twitter, thought it was interesting.
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Relishing watching Pogba and Lukaku next season. Pogba is no doubt one of the most creative players in the world and this could become a very potent combination. You would hope to see a big improvements in both Rashford and Martial also.

We've got a very strong spine and some very talented youngsters. Future is looking very bright.
 
I can imagine Lingard being sat teared up in his room listening to James Blunt songs and watching old instagram posts of himself and Pogba.
:lol:

"Goodbye my Pogba... goodbye my friend... You have been the one *sobs*... you have been the one for me".
 
If he develops into a player anywhere near as good as Drogba then we'd be doing incredibly well. Sadly I have my doubts.

Not really what I was alluding to. Just that Drogba worked on a certain aspect of his game that he used to be heavily criticized for and that I'm hoping Lukaku does that. Lukaku is already better than Drogba with the ball at his feet at the same age anyway.
 
Until Lukaku plays in CL games we will not know. Morata has no nerves in the big, big games and he has played in quite a few. Lukaku is unknown in that capacity. So we will have to wait and see. Also Lukaku has not played at any level for Real or Juventus the same that Morata has not played in the PL. Morata can handle the big occasions, we will all be hoping that Lukaku can do the same and isn't just someone who cleans up against the bottom feeders.

Lukaku hasn't had the chance to play in the champions league whereas Morata regularly warms the bench for a top 3 side in the competition. You can quite easily compare them based on a larger sample of games than 1 off cup ties and Lukaku has been much more impressive.
 
I think people just underestimate the importance of strength in English football. However cliché that sounds, I don't think we as a club can be successful in the premier league and in Europe without having the right balance of strength and technique.

That' is something I have seen at all of José's clubs & in my opinion our squad has been weak in the central areas for far too long.
 
it's funny, if i say berbatov reminds me of Zlatan no one would say it's "racist" . I don't see why it's seen as that when the two people happen to be black , it's so daft.

Exactly. Plenty of people draw comparisons between Lukaku and Heskey saying (rightly or wrongly) that they're big, lumbering, lazy, more power than finess. It's others who then mention they're both black.

Black footballers are hardly some obscure minority, so it's not as if anyone's gone out of their way to name one of s similar skin tone.

I just think throwing around the term racist this lightly distracts from real instances of it
 
Lukaku hasn't had the chance to play in the champions league whereas Morata regularly warms the bench for a top 3 side in the competition. You can quite easily compare them based on a larger sample of games than 1 off cup ties and Lukaku has been much more impressive.
That is why we will have to wait and see. He didn't get Everton to Cup Final. when he had the chance. Morata scored in semi's in CL.
 
Not really what I was alluding to. Just that Drogba worked on a certain aspect of his game that he used to be heavily criticized for and that I'm hoping Lukaku does that. Lukaku is already better than Drogba with the ball at his feet at the same age anyway.

There's an interview of Lukaku with Henry where he talks about studying all types of strikers and improving his game every chance he gets because he loves the game.

I think he'll work on improving, plus he'll have a lot to prove this season and it's the WC next year, plus CL games too - I can see him steadily improving.
 
it's funny, if i say berbatov reminds me of Zlatan no one would say it's "racist" . I don't see why it's seen as that when the two people happen to be black , it's so daft.

That's because they're actually similar players.

Lukaku is a completely different player to Heskey or Drogba as @Brwned explains.
 
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The comparison to Drogba comes about because they both played for Chelsea.

The comparison to Heskey comes about because Heskey was considered technically unsound too.

Not racism.
 
There's an interview of Lukaku with Henry where he talks about studying all types of strikers and improving his game every chance he gets because he loves the game.

I think he'll work on improving, plus he'll have a lot to prove this season and it's the WC next year, plus CL games too - I can see him steadily improving.

Good then!
 
I don't really recall Morata in the big bit occasions for Spain or Real......
He usually doesn't play as Benzema is preferred.

He's not that spectacular in that respect I've read somewhere that he has scored 3 times in the last 15 games in CL - against Napoli, Sporting and some other weak team.
 
He's got plenty for Juve though.
That's why I said in his thread, if he had been allowed to stay at Juve he would have given them a better chance in the CL final than Higuain. The Real fans agreed with me that Higuain is a bottler they also said Dybala went hiding once someone clattered him and that Morata would have just carried on. That he is a battler.
 
The comparison to Drogba comes about because they both played for Chelsea.

The comparison to Heskey comes about because Heskey was considered technically unsound too.

Not racism.
There are ton of white players currently playing that are considered technically unsound(and are much similar in their game to Lukaku).
 
There are ton of white players currently playing that are considered technically unsound.
Players who are tall and strong like Lukaku? And if you want to criticise Lukaku, Heskey is the one to go to. No-one has been mocked like Heskey has been.
 
That's why I said in his thread, if he had been allowed to stay at Juve he would have given them a better chance in the CL final than Higuain. The Real fans agreed with me that Higuain is a bottler they also said Dybala went hiding once someone clattered him and that Morata would have just carried on. That he is a battler.
Dybala was crap in the CL final but you're doing him a disservice, he's been hacked down for three years and that hasn't stopped him from being arguably the best player in Serie A (top 3 at worst). Pogba and Morata played with him together and it's clear he's on another level to both (Pogba mostly because he's a midfielder).
 
Drogba didn't hold up play well at all during his first two seasons.
He fell under every bit of contact and dived when there wasn't any. Chelsea used Lampard to circulate the ball further forward and used the wins rather than rely on Drogba through the middle.
One of the main criticisms of him was not using his strength to his advantage.
Mourinho would disagree with you. Mourinho had previously commented that his style of play at Chelsea was predicated on Cech's ability to kick long and Drogba's ability to win the aerial battle and his hold up play.
 
Lukaku plays absolutely nothing like Heskey. Nothing. There is no basis for comparison on the pitch.
 
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