We were having this discussion before Rashford got injured though. Rashford has played 90% of the season as a LF so of course we were discussing it.
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We were having this discussion before Rashford got injured though. Rashford has played 90% of the season as a LF so of course we were discussing it.
Should we just ignore that he scored 25 in 37 for Everton of all teams the season before we signed him?
We finished with a 50% Premier League win-rate last season so there's no "not really" about it, we're on 36% now so we're clearly fecking worse.
Go back and check against who he scored so many goals and the goal drought he had at one point where he didn't score for over a month and half.
Goal droughts now? haha, you remember Wayne Rooney right?
Let's be honest Gif, most strikers have goal droughts during a season.
You're seriously comparing Rooney to Lukaku? You do realize Rooeny had much more in locker than Lukaku ever will.
Should we also ignore when he scored 17 PL goals for West fecking Brom of all sides eh giffy?
No.
But I am wondering if we should also ignore that Lukaku scored 17 PL goals for West fecking Brom of all sides eh giffy?
Scoring league goal is one thing. Lukaku can certainly do that and many of them. Although can he carry Belgium to win the European cup?
Did they very well in the world cup with him although I think it was Hazard that was the big star.
I think they might win it and hold them as top 3 favorites for sure. So if they do it might change the view about him.
Although Hazard and De Bruyne will probably take most of the credit.
Did they very well in the world cup with him although I think it was Hazard that was the big star.
I think they might win it and hold them as top 3 favorites for sure. So if they do it might change the view about him.
Although Hazard and De Bruyne will probably take most of the credit.
And Benteke got 19 for Villa your point?
And should we also ignore that Lukaku has the joint 8th best goal ratio (level with Andy Cole) since the Premier League began despite spending most of it with West Brom and Everton?
Or @GifLord , does it have nothing really to do with his moving to a "weaker league"?
Or @GifLord , does it have nothing really to do with his moving to a "weaker league"?
| 1 | Agüero | Manchester City | Argentina | 180 | 258 | 0.70 |
| 2 | Thierry Henry | Arsenal | France | 175 | 258 | 0.68 |
| 3 | Harry Kane | Tottenham Hotspur (136), Norwich City (0) | England | 136 | 201 | 0.68 |
| 4 | Alan Shearer | Blackburn Rovers (112), Newcastle United (148) | England | 260 | 441 | 0.59 |
| 5 | Ian Wright | Arsenal (104), West Ham United (9) | England | 113 | 213 | 0.53 |
| 6 | Robin van Persie | Arsenal (96), Manchester United (48) | Netherlands | 144 | 280 | 0.51 |
| 7 | Michael Owen | Liverpool (118), Newcastle United (26), Manchester United (5), Stoke City (1) | England | 150 | 326 | 0.46 |
| 8 | Andy Cole | Newcastle United (43), Manchester United (93), Blackburn Rovers (27), Fulham (12), Manchester City (9), Portsmouth (3), Sunderland (0) | England | 187 | 414 | 0.45 |
| 8 | Romelu Lukaku | West Bromwich Albion (17), Everton (68), Manchester United (28) | Belgium | 113 | 252 | 0.45 |
Where's Benteke on the all time Premier League goal ratio list?
I remember noticing again and again when watching Belgium that both Hazard and de Bruyne often didn't pass to him when it seemed a fairly obvious pass. They know his touch is shoddy and they seemed to have limited trust in him. But in the right setup he can be highly effective of course.
I love a good Lukaku spaz out video as much as anyone, but it has no point in our discussion here in which you reckon he's scoring because he moved to a weaker league. The actual stats show you're talking out of your bottom.
He'll still have a good spaz out youtube collection in Serie A.
Are we worse or not at the moment, yes or no ....
People on here are literally jerking of to Smalling being this demi-god of a defender in Serie A.
Just put 1+1 together and you'll see at what im getting
Steve is very good at avoiding those questions, cause he knows full well we finished with a 50% Premier League win-rate last season and we're on 36% now so we're clearly fecking worse.
Better for him to just not reply.
Why even mention Martial at all too ?
He is scoring because he moved to a weaker league though. Are you saying the serie a is just as strong and got no bearing on his goal tally?
Behave now mate.
I just showed you that Lukaku is JOINT 8TH in the all time Premier League goalscoring ratio list. Him scoring in Serie A has nothing to do with it being a weaker league man.
What is it with some people on here, you can occasionally just say, "yeah I guess that isn't really true, but I think he's a shite footballer and glad we got rid". Instead you'll just dive deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole no matter how much someone actually proves to you that your post was nonsense.
EPL is extremely weak so it has nothing to do with that. He's playing in a system that suits him together with Lautaro who's a nightmare for defenders. A lot of Serie A teams play very defensively so its not as if scoring against them will be easier than bottom teams in the EPL.
Lukaku is JOINT 8TH in the all time Premier League goalscoring ratio list.
He's scoring because he's a goalscorer, in whatever league.
Keep repeating yourself without answering the question is a great tactic.
Should not Salah be here? Feels like he is scoring around 0.7 goals per game so far for Pool.
Was he the right fit for us? Most likely no. But the ways some people go to discredit him although every evidence we have points to us being just fecking shit at everything that has to do with creating goal scoring chances is quite something.
Not sure what you mean by 'extremely weak' but i'm looking at the top scorers in Serie A and bar Ronnie they aren't exactly world beaters? Ciro Immobile, Ronaldo, Lukaku , Joao Pedro, Josip Ilicic. Quite frankly I'd be disappointed of Big Rom wasn't up there.
What question? Is Lukaku scoring because he moved to a weaker league?
No, he's scoring because:
a) he's a goalscorer and was also scoring at a brilliant rate (8th best ever) in the Premier League.
and
b) he's playing for a stronger side, who are coached better and who have a 69% win-rate this season.
This is pretty fecking simple stuff man.
Gotta be over 100 games else some absolute randoms will make it, scoring like 3 in 2.
Salah will be there soon and he'll push Cole and Lukaku down a spot.
Gotta be over 100 games else some absolute randoms will make it, scoring like 3 in 2.
Salah will be there soon and he'll push Cole and Lukaku down a spot.
Who are these random ones? Pukki? Higuain? Falcao? None of them good enough though. Pukki around Lukaku numbers.
Aubameyang should be on the list too I am sure about. Still two seasons for him. 50 games should be enough to remove one season wonders.
no.
you’re so busy posting meaningless stats that you don’t even bother reading others posts.
I asked, Are you saying the serie a is just as strong and got no bearing on his goal tally?
You want an answer that I don't agree with. You've decided he's scoring more cause he's playing in Serie A, I don't agree. He's scoring because that's what he does and because he's playing in a better performing team.
You are aware that goal scorers tend to score more in better sides that win more often right? Or is that news to you?
I’m not really bothered, but you’re still not reading or answering the question
I’m not really bothered, but you’re still not reading or answering the question
I have read, and disagree.
Lukaku, if he had moved to Real Madrid or Manchester City this year would also have scored a feck tonne more than he would for an underperforming Manchester United, the guy is a proven Premier League goalscorer and in a team that wins 69% of it's games he's always going to score a feck tonne.
The guy scored 25 league goals for Everton, is Belgium's highest ever scorer, bagged 5 in a single World Cup. He's a goalscorer man. Why on Earth would you wanna spin it any other way?
If the question was "would Lukaku have scored as many league goals this season at Manchester United if we were winning 36% of our games" the obvious answer is no.
I've been reading through some of the post on lukaku and for me I get that he has a very good scoring record in his career around 1 in 2 . For me we will be a better team without Lukaku simply because his all round game isn't great .
My mate is a Everton fan and I always remember when we signed him he said I'm actually glad he is gone . I wondered why because he had a good scoring record but he then said it's so frustrating watching him every week and as a match goer I have to agree .
The guy can score but sweet Christ he is hard to watch 90 % of the time
My mate is a Everton fan and I always remember when we signed him he said I'm actually glad he is gone . I wondered why because he had a good scoring record but he then said it's so frustrating watching him every week and as a match goer I have to agree .
The guy can score but sweet Christ he is hard to watch 90 % of the time
I think historically it has been harder to score in the Serie A.
Think the top scorers normally do not get as many goals as in the PL. Although it is not the case this season so far.
Could be there is just better quality up front this season with Ronaldo, Lukaku and Immobile. Although Immobile has been there for a long time.
It can be hard to judge on that too since Messi is not scoring as much as usual in La liga. Although from watching I am not seeing amazing defending from the other sides.
Thus it might just be Messi having a tougher season.
PL defenses seem to be decent this year. Although we have still seen some total destruction. 9-0 win and 8-0 so far.
Thus don't feel scoring in the PL is much harder. Teams like Wolves and Sheffield has come from the lower leagues with solid defenses though.
Plus teams like Newcastle pretty much just park the bus against everyone without being actually that good at defending. Although think that could suit Lukaku well to play against.
The only outstanding defense in the PL this season is Liverpools. I would back Lukaku to be able to score against the rest, but mainly against the bottom sides.
We're not though, we probably will be but the point is that currently we absolutely are not.
Whilst Lukaku was here we won 57.8% of our PL games, without him = 36%.
You should probably mention he’s the 8th highest goal scoring ratio in the PL of all time.
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Mate you are just wasting your time at this point. He is probably still confused why Veron and Shevchenko didn't make it here.I’m not really bothered, but you’re still not reading or answering the question
Won't deny he was limited but he was good at Everton so it seems a disservice to say he can't play in the league if you adapt to his strengths. I suspect his head had completely gone by the second season and that's just as big of a problem as any technical limitations. Situation isn't entirely dissimilar to Di Maria who was/is a good player but it didn't work out.
Before anybody says it though, Di Maria is obviously a superior player.