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He's no Bilal Ilyas Jhandir
We're still getting paid for this lump? Happy days!
I'd have Toni in the same bracket as Forlan, Makaay and Klose, tbh.He is a top Europa League center forward, I'm not saying that as an insult but he is in the Luca Toni, Immobile, Kanouté or Luis Fabiano bracket. These are/were good players with great seasons on their records but they rightfully didn't get the hype that Lukaku got because at the time the couple of tiers above these players were clearly identifiable, you had the likes of Henry, Eto'o, Van Nistelrooy at the top and then below them the likes of Forlan, Makaay or Klose.
That's wrong, Zlatan scored 25 league goals in 2008/09.Just saw a stat saying that Lukaku is the first player since Il Fenomeno Ronaldo to score 20 league goals in Serie A for Inter. I mean what were the likes of Zlatan and co doing. It can't be right, could it?
Just saw a stat saying that Lukaku is the first player since Il Fenomeno Ronaldo to score 20 league goals in Serie A for Inter. I mean what were the likes of Zlatan and co doing. It can't be right, could it?
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In a debut season perhaps?
First since R9 to score 20 in their first 30 games apparently.
There's always a moment watching Lukaku where you're going to see him in a stationary position pointing exactly where he wants the ball.Always.
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Quality player, who would have thunk it
Maybe it's just me, but when you have a competent midfield that can create chances, instead of asking your striker to create chances out of thin air, then your strikers suddenly look great...
Nah that's nonsense.
didn’t realise everything had to be put on a plate for him to score. Mind you, you put any amount of food on a player and clearly he eats it.
1 goal in 23 games against the top 6 shows he’s far from a quality player. Complete failure, and it’s all down to his lack to professionalism, fitness and woeful first touch. I’m not sure how you can blame the midfield for his complete inadequacies.
Maybe it's just me (I could be a simpleton on this topic), but maybe your strikers look better when your team is real good at creating chances. Maybe, if I go into the Martial thread, there is a noticeable before/after effect corresponding to the acquisition of Bruno and the return of Pogba, where before was many people saying he should be upgraded on, and after was many people declaring our striker issues solved. Maybe the likes of Lingard and Periera were castigated for this very reason. Ditto for Wan Bissaka and Shaw.
Maybe it's just me (I could be a simpleton on this topic), but maybe your strikers look better when your team is real good at creating chances. Maybe, if I go into the Martial thread, there is a noticeable before/after effect corresponding to the acquisition of Bruno and the return of Pogba, where before was many people saying he should be upgraded on, and after was many people declaring our striker issues solved. Maybe the likes of Lingard and Periera were castigated for this very reason. Ditto for Wan Bissaka and Shaw.
Quality player, who would have thunk it
Maybe it's just me, but when you have a competent midfield that can create chances, instead of asking your striker to create chances out of thin air, then your strikers suddenly look great...
Nah that's nonsense.
Despite his lack of professionalism and match fitness, his antics ; and not to forget his terrible misses for simple tap ins and sitters, horrible touch and completely missing performance against top 6; I bear no ill will against Lukaku.
Now, Angel Di Maria on the other hand. I dislike him to the core, but that is for another thread.
My only wish is that we draw Inter in the Europa, We whoop them over the 2 legs (or 1 leg whichever it is) and Lukaku misses numerous tap ins and sitters while ourfront 3 scores a hattrick each.
We recouped most of Lukaku's transfer fee from Inter, and it was a good move for both parties.
It would be even better if we get bonuses for Lukaku's performance at Inter.
Ora signor Conte, se stai leggendo il Red Cafe, Alexis Sanchez è persino meglio di Romelu Lukaku.
Compralo in fretta, abbiamo bisogno dei soldi per Jadon Sancho che è inutile a differenza di Lukaku.
Pretty sure we had the same players then as we do now?
Rashford - Check
Martial - Check
Pogba - Check
He was simply crap for us! The warming touch of Jimmy Saville, clumsy and routinely missed chance laid on for him.
Quality player, who would have thunk it
Maybe it's just me, but when you have a competent midfield that can create chances, instead of asking your striker to create chances out of thin air, then your strikers suddenly look great...
Nah that's nonsense.
Maybe it's just me (I could be a simpleton on this topic), but maybe your strikers look better when your team is real good at creating chances. Maybe, if I go into the Martial thread, there is a noticeable before/after effect corresponding to the acquisition of Bruno and the return of Pogba, where before was many people saying he should be upgraded on, and after was many people declaring our striker issues solved. Maybe the likes of Lingard and Periera were castigated for this very reason. Ditto for Wan Bissaka and Shaw.
I think a large part of my dislike of Lukaku was how that first manager used him. In the right role against the right teams hes clearly valuable, he's just not suited to a lot of games. He'd be a great squad player but you wouldn't want him to be an automatic starter.The problem Lukaku has at United is the first manager wanted him to play back to goal and be a target man to which his touch isn't good enough to do and his second manager wanted him to press the opposition defence which he doesn't have the stamina to do
He's a very limited player who's only able to thrive in a one specific system which is the one both Everton and Inter deploy
Maybe it's just me (I could be a simpleton on this topic), but maybe your strikers look better when your team is real good at creating chances. Maybe, if I go into the Martial thread, there is a noticeable before/after effect corresponding to the acquisition of Bruno and the return of Pogba, where before was many people saying he should be upgraded on, and after was many people declaring our striker issues solved. Maybe the likes of Lingard and Periera were castigated for this very reason. Ditto for Wan Bissaka and Shaw.
Of course it is a fair point that our forwards look better when they are getting better supply, that is a universal truism in football. Not sure how anyone can argue with you on that. What is also true is that Lukaku always looked far off being a United striker. Even when other forwards performed, he rarely did. His all round game is dreadful, but he is a useful poacher. Against top opposition he was always very easily nullified. His record against the top six is demonstrable of this, while Rashford's for example is very good under the same conditions. It is no surprise that he is knocking in goals in Serie A where the quality of opposition is inherently weaker. It's a good transfer for Inter and the way Conte likes to play. For United, Ole is all about having a fluid front three, with high technical ability, and the ability to play rapidly on the counter. Romelu is antithetical to this approach.
I don't know what the bolded means
Against top opposition he wasn't the lone underperformer dragging down the rest of the team. I don't recall too many games where he was an actual detriment (City at Old Trafford), but I do recall him providing a key assist to Rashford against Tottenham or Liverpool. Rashford has a great scoring record against the top 6, granted, but that's just one aspect of being a top scorer. All of our strikers, Rashford, Martial and Lukaku, have had dips in performances and have all been questioned and criticized leading up to Ole's arrival.
Yeah he's a poacher. So if you are buying a poacher, what are you supposed to do? Devoid him of supply and hope he can magically convert chances at rates far higher than the league average? Our chance creation was pitiful throughout his time here. And it was just a microcosm of our idiotic transfer "strategy" mostly carried out by Woodward
I agree he's not suited for Ole's style of play and he's found a club with high ambitions he can start at, and by any rational metric he's having a good starting season. Meanwhile we have a young bunch of forwards who can play in Ole's style, and we've finally sorted out our chance creation problem with more to come (maybe Sancho?). It's a happy ending for everyone
I don't know what the bolded means
Against top opposition he wasn't the lone underperformer dragging down the rest of the team. I don't recall too many games where he was an actual detriment (City at Old Trafford), but I do recall him providing a key assist to Rashford against Tottenham or Liverpool. Rashford has a great scoring record against the top 6, granted, but that's just one aspect of being a top scorer. All of our strikers, Rashford, Martial and Lukaku, have had dips in performances and have all been questioned and criticized leading up to Ole's arrival.
Yeah he's a poacher. So if you are buying a poacher, what are you supposed to do? Devoid him of supply and hope he can magically convert chances at rates far higher than the league average? Our chance creation was pitiful throughout his time here. And it was just a microcosm of our idiotic transfer "strategy" mostly carried out by Woodward
I agree he's not suited for Ole's style of play and he's found a club with high ambitions he can start at, and by any rational metric he's having a good starting season. Meanwhile we have a young bunch of forwards who can play in Ole's style, and we've finally sorted out our chance creation problem with more to come (maybe Sancho?). It's a happy ending for everyone
Good post. About as balanced as you can get in a thread as toxic as this one.The problem Lukaku has at United is the first manager wanted him to play back to goal and be a target man to which his touch isn't good enough to do and his second manager wanted him to press the opposition defence which he doesn't have the stamina to do
He's a very limited player who's only able to thrive in a one specific system which is the one both Everton and Inter deploy
i would love this aswell. Only thing is with no fans there he might play ok.My only wish is that we draw Inter in the Europa, We whoop them over the 2 legs (or 1 leg whichever it is) and Lukaku misses numerous tap ins and sitters while ourfront 3 scores a hattrick each.
We recouped most of Lukaku's transfer fee from Inter, and it was a good move for both parties.
It would be even better if we get bonuses for Lukaku's performance at Inter.