Romelu Lukaku | Chelsea

kouroux said:
Speaking several languages doesn't mean you're intelligent. It could mean exposing your stupidity to more people around the world
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I'm sure this sounded cool in your head, like a 90's action film line and all, but yeah, speaking that many languages does mean you are intelligent.

Intelligence isn't measured in a straight line, however.

JPRouve said:
It's also fairly normal for many people in the world, the african being an example.
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speaking 5 or 6 languages isn't fairly normal. Even for African standards/diaspora kids
 
People need to understand that intelligent people can be morons too. Some of the biggest morons I know are quite smart.
 
Conte is the one who could handle him, maybe Roberto Martinez too.
 
duffer said:
Getting dropped for a game is a reasonable response. There were people talking about sacking him for this, that's the bitchboy hysteria!
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Anything less than this punishment and it's Tuchel and Chelsea who are the bitchboys :D

 
TsuWave said:
I'm sure this sounded cool in your head, like a 90's action film line and all, but yeah, speaking that many languages does mean you are intelligent.

Intelligence isn't measured in a straight line, however.



speaking 5 or 6 languages isn't fairly normal. Even for African standards/diaspora kids
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Wtf :lol: My whole life I have traveled and have met people who spoke several languages like Lukaku. I can guarantee you that a few of them weren't intelligent at all, gifted to learn languages sure but still all the same thick
JPRouve said:
It's also fairly normal for many people in the world, the african being an exampl
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Spot on, people where I live speak on average 3 languages and needless that all of them aren't Einsteins
 
Mike Smalling said:
A quick throwback to when Lukaku wrote an article, and was generally considered by the Caf to be 'Immensely likable', 'a brilliant character', an 'admirable person' and have 'great mentality'.

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/ive-got-some-things-to-say-by-romelu-lukaku.439459/

Quite a PR turnaround from Big Rom.
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That's the thing though. He knows how to create an imagine but can't maintain it, when things aren't in his favor he starts showing his true colors.
 
I just don't understand it though. Chelsea was, from his own words, his boyhood club. He seemed legitimately determined to make a name for himself back at Stamford Bridge. This was his moment.
And he seems to have given that up already.
 
Paxi said:
Bitchboy hysteria was when people were saying they’d take Lukaku long-term over Ronaldo short-term. Truly laughable that was…
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I would rather have had neither

We have gone backwards from last season and Ronaldo is a part of that

I can see why chelsea wanted a target man as an alternative to playing a false 8 but they may have been better off getting a younger, lower profile one who would have been happy with rotation
 
TsuWave said:
speaking 5 or 6 languages isn't fairly normal. Even for African standards/diaspora kids
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For me it is, the majority of people I know speak or understand 4 to 6 languages. I'm a lot more surprised by people that only speak one or two.
 
TsuWave said:
He's a polyglot. 5 or 6 languages in his repertoire. Fluently. He's very intelligent
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I don’t think speaking multiple languages has any bearing on whether you’re an idiot or not. Especially because you’re essentially saying anyone Belgian (or born in a country with multiple languages) is automatically more intelligent than someone born in a country with a single dominant language.
 
MayosNoun said:
What an idiot.

This is usually where Tuchel falls out with management by dropping the biggest paid players. He really doesn’t care and rightly so.

He has dropped Kepa and now Lukaku. I’d imagine Roman wouldn’t be happy with Lukaku’s interview either if he even knows about it. Big Rom better watch his back if so.
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Question. Was Lukaku a Tuchel signing ? I know you guys usually don't give managers much control in terms of transfers as I remember it being a problem with Conte.

Ironically Conte wanted Lukaku at that time but you ended up with Morata.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
I don’t think speaking multiple languages has any bearing on whether you’re an idiot or not. Especially because you’re essentially saying anyone Belgian (or born in a country with multiple languages) is automatically more intelligent than someone born in a country with a single dominant language.
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Pretty much. People seem to not realize how common it is for people to grow up with several languages without learning any in school.
 
TsuWave said:
He's a polyglot. 5 or 6 languages in his repertoire. Fluently. He's very intelligent
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I speak 4. It's really not a marker of intelligence given all 4 were learned due to social and cultural factors of where my parents are from. It's common to speak 2 or 3 languages in a lot of countries. Doesn't make me or them more intelligent than people who speak one.
 
TsuWave said:
He's a polyglot. 5 or 6 languages in his repertoire. Fluently. He's very intelligent
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Is it the English thing or what because it’s keep getting mentioned that if you are a polyglot you must be smart ? A large amount of population in the world know multiple languages, clearly everybody must be smart then, well No. Just because the brits are one dimensional and poor when it comes to languages, it isn’t the be all or end all on the scale of smartness. Smartness is judged on many things, being a polyglot is just a part of it. It’s hilarious how scintillating learning other languages people like you find it.
 
Didn't quite work out as I expected :lol: , wondering what was said between Lukaku and Tuchel...

Certainly not good to not even have him on the bench. Ultimately our attack was working better without him in the team, in the system we've been playing, which the problem he's complaining about in the first place. Ego won't take being benched seemingly.
 
Pace Abuser said:
I speak 4. It's really not a marker of intelligence given all 4 were learned due to social and cultural factors of where my parents are from. It's common to speak 2 or 3 languages in a lot of countries. Doesn't make me or them more intelligent than people who speak one.
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I think he is intelligent but also has an outsized ego, which shapes a lot of what he does
 
Paxi said:
If you’re trolling, I suggest that you stop.
:nervous:
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What is the origin of this? Suddenly, I see it everywhere on the Caf, but I feel out of the loop :confused:

Also, not really poking fun at anyone. I also posted a positive comment in that thread, although with a minimum of superlatives. Just think it is interesting how he has managed to derail the perception of him, with his incessant pointing, moaning and general odd behavior.
 
Imagine being a multi millionaire and not liking living in London.
 
GoldanoGraham said:
It’s all about the easy life he had in Italy

Loads of space, easy to score goals, everyone blowing smoke up his arse…..now reality is he is struggling because level is much harder…..

such a twat
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Exactly this!

Prick has realised the PL is too difficult for him and instead of working his arse off, because you know the club paid 100m for him and he is on stupid money a week, he decides to say feck it I want to leave. What a twat.
 
kouroux said:
Wtf :lol: My whole life I have traveled and have met people who spoke several languages like Lukaku. I can guarantee you that a few of them weren't intelligent at all, gifted to learn languages sure but still all the same thick

Spot on, people where I live speak on average 3 languages and needless that all of them aren't Einsteins
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Having the ability to learn, comprehend and speak multiple languages fluently, is a marker of intelligence. I mean, a basic definition of intelligence is often the ability to learn/acquire knowledge and apply it efficiently. Speaking multiple languages fluently is a reflection of said concept. I don't even know why this is debatable. At no point did I say he is Einstein, just that he is intelligent. Again, intelligence isn't a straight line.

JPRouve said:
For me it is, the majority of people I know speak or understand 4 to 6 languages. I'm a lot more surprised by people that only speak one or two.
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Not for me and I'm an Afro Latino British diaspora kid from South London myself, who has lived in 3 continent and speaks 3 languages. I do not have a limited circumference of friends or anecdotes, and there's no way in hell speaking 5 or 6 languages is "fairly normal" anywhere I have been.

tomaldinho1 said:
I don’t think speaking multiple languages has any bearing on whether you’re an idiot or not. Especially because you’re essentially saying anyone Belgian (or born in a country with multiple languages) is automatically more intelligent than someone born in a country with a single dominant language.
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Being intelligent and being an idiot aren't mutually exclusive. And no, that's not what I am essentially saying. What I'm essentially saying is that Lukaku is intelligent and that his proficiency with languages is a marker of intelligence.

Pace Abuser said:
I speak 4. It's really not a marker of intelligence given all 4 were learned due to social and cultural factors of where my parents are from. It's common to speak 2 or 3 languages in a lot of countries. Doesn't make me or them more intelligent than people who speak one.
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And where did I say it makes one more intelligent than others? And you're wrong. It is indeed a marker of intelligence. However, intelligence isn't a straight line and being proficient in multiple languages doesn't mean it will translate into being proficient in other things such as: visuospatial skills (though I do believe he's quite good at those too being a top level striker), attention, broader reasoning etc. It does mean you're intelligent though.

people often conflate intelligence with calculus - someone even made an Einstein reference here - I don't.
 
Pace Abuser said:
I speak 4. It's really not a marker of intelligence given all 4 were learned due to social and cultural factors of where my parents are from. It's common to speak 2 or 3 languages in a lot of countries. Doesn't make me or them more intelligent than people who speak one.
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Lukaku speaks 8/9 languages. It's far more than the norm in Belgium or anywhere.

What social or cultural factors do you reckon have made Lukaku speak Portuguese, German and Spanish? And he mastered Italian pretty quickly upon moving there. Ramsey, for instance, has been there longer and still can't put a sentence together.


Redlyn said:
All that is well and good but if you are going to quote me at least make it relevant to my post.
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The first part of my message was relevant to your assumption that Inter at the moment they bought him made a great investment. They didn't, it was a huge gamble, and without Chelsea bailing them out he would have become a huge financial burden.
 
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“At United I was in a tunnel, Inter saved my career

After the first season at Inter, I rejected a City offer

I will never play for Juve or Milan, Juve tried in the past, I will never play for them.

In Italy there is only Inter”

Big Rom
 
Lukaku lived with Boswinga in his first year at Chelsea and learned Portuguese from him

that's seriously impressive
 
FrankDrebin said:
I just don't understand it though. Chelsea was, from his own words, his boyhood club. He seemed legitimately determined to make a name for himself back at Stamford Bridge. This was his moment.
And he seems to have given that up already.
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He’s their Paul Pogba, if he shut up and worked hard he’d be a world beater
Instead goes round with his head up his arse thinking he’s better than he is
 
Murder on Zidane's Floor said:
Yeah, I reckon he can order a beer in a couple of those languages and that's it.
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I don't know whether it is worth interjecting at this point here but where we live we tend to meet quite a few African lads who can speak Italian, French, German, even English to accomplished levels. I'm not saying a whole racial group have a knack for learning languages but I certainly think they put some effort into learning.
 
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