[youmeletsfly]

Those are only PL numbers so they are accurate for the sake of comparison but yeah I agree with you entirely. Trim down and get used to the new system and I think he'll bang them in.

He also misses quite a few of them to be honest. With more confidence and more luck he could easily get 25 a season in the EPL.

Thing is, he is not fit, he;s not making runs and his touch is still terrible. Until he loses some weight, works on his movement up top and builds some confidence he's still a bang average striker and slows our front 3 too much.

Yeah, he scored 3 in a row, but he still looks like a fly in the wind on the field.

 

[ash_86]

Lets give him time to settle under the new manager who also happens to know a thing or two about being a striker. I think this spell with Ole is gold for Lukaku. He already scores lot of goals but if Ole could bring a sense of calmness in the box, then it'd improve Lukaku's throughput multiple times over. Lukaku also seems like a person who is genuinely interested to learn from anyone and quite young.

 

[Loublaze]

Except it is. Firmino and Aubamayang are, objectively, better than Lukaku and comfortably so. Anybody actually watching these players would echo that thought unless they're extremely biased.

What next ? Lukaku is better then Salah and Hazard?

Lukaku's strike rate is one of a top striker no matter which way you look at it. It appears you just want a flashy new toy

 

[Loublaze]

Those two months was the best football played in that era imo.
All I'm saying is we didn't need to play a mobile forward to get the best out of Ronaldo and Rooney. Their level of improvement was always going to happen and be sudden and Ruud being dropped had little to do with how they were utilised. They both just overlapped.
We won the league that year and Saha missed a large chunk of it through injury (scored one goal in the second half of that season) yet I bet nobody will claim we were rigid or slow going forward in that period without him.

Refresh my memory with specifics, I mean I remember we totally blew teams away that season, and Larson joined us in January when United always stepped up a gear under Fergie

 

[DBT85]

He also misses quite a few of them to be honest. With more confidence and more luck he could easily get 25 a season in the EPL.

Thing is, he is not fit, he;s not making runs and his touch is still terrible. Until he loses some weight, works on his movement up top and builds some confidence he's still a bang average striker and slows our front 3 too much.

Yeah, he scored 3 in a row, but he still looks like a fly in the wind on the field.

If you look at his actual numbers his on target numbers are better than Kanes or at least the same.

 

[RooneyLegend]

[QUOTE="11101, post: 23532662, member: 91672">] We actually won very little with him as our striker, despite how good he was at scoring.[/QUOTE]

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Football ultimately is about scoring goals. Strikers main role is about scoring goals. There's no extra points for how they go in the net, once it goes in. The fact of the matter is whether you like the way he does it or not, his record over a number of seasons is only bettered by 2 current players. Now either over the 5 years Or so he's been the most extremely luckiest player to put on a pair of football boots or he has an ability to score goals better than 99% of the players in this league. I thought the test of someone's ability is to do it consistently over a period of time so how then is he rated as one of the worst? Also he's proved it internationally and now in a World Cup where he was unplayable at times. Not proven it in CL, cause not played in it that many times.

People would sooner focus on him occasionally not controlling the ball than doing the hardest thing in football, and scoring it cause somehow this new technical football doesn't still need someone on the end of it, to score. I'd say Belgium are a technical side, maybe given their players one of the most technical teams in the world but somehow Rom managed to become their leading goal scorer......how lucky is he?

An over simplification in the absence of a genuine argument.

• I never said he was lucky. You made that up. You're projecting an argument that doesn't exist to debate against it.
• Goalscoring isn't the be all and end all. Messi while scoring 30 goals contributes more to the team than Defoe while scoring 31. One only needs a working pair of eyes to be able to see that.
• Lukaku isn't as good as the best strikers in football. Heck, he's below even Aubamayang and Firmino let alone the likes of Salah and Aguero. Are you debating this?
• "Focus on technical and not the hardest thing in footballer (TM) blah blah". Look , as adults we should be capable of identifying strengths and weaknesses. Lukaku is a good goalscorer but has a weak all round game. All in all, he's much better than the recent criticsm but he's clearly not a top class striker.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Lukaku's strike rate is one of a top striker no matter which way you look at it. It appears you just want a flashy new toy

He's not a top striker no matter whichever way you look at it. It appears you're just a massive fanboi of his.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Huge downgrade? Name one other number 9 the same age as Kane and Lukaku who's as adept at finishing in the premier league. If Spurs lost Kane do you think they'd be able to find a like for like replacement? They might not even be able to afford Lukaku. Chelsea will take him because they need a CF who scores on a regular basis. I can see him at PSG, he speaks French, is young and is an international star. He ticks a lot of boxes. Cavani is north of 30. Lukaku was linked with PSG at while he was at Everton by French media outlets. Sure that's not saying much, but like i've said again and again, Lukaku has always been courted by big clubs and there's no reason for that to stop should he leave OT.

Wait, so Lukaku is not a huge downgrade from Kane? Are you having a laugh? Are you from Belgium or something? Nobody rates Lukaku anywhere even close to Kane. Because it is absurd.

 

[adexkola]

Who are the top strikers in the PL right now? The only ones that have a clear case are Aguero and Kane (maybe Aubemayang)? Firmino gets the Benzema treatment and that biases me against him.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

What rubbish you're spouting here. What have Aubameyang, Lacazette and Firmino achieved in the premier league that Lukaku hasn't? Lukaku wasn't benched for Rashford, he lost a father and Rashford took his chance in Lukaku's absence. Get a grip of yourself man, the grass is not always greener on the other side.

Shit. I didn't know that. I would presume his father was unwell for a while before he died. So that could well be a big factor in why Lukaku's been so poor for most of this season.

 

[Litch]

Seriously! He's a £75m striker and he can't score against the top 6 clubs on the country. 2 in 18, might as well play with 10 men. He doesn't score against everyone else either - but let's park that.

Do you really think having a striker that scores 15-20 league goals per season and can only score against the bottom clubs in the league is what we need, and you are happy with that?!

Come on....we both know most of the time the games against the top teams are generally won by the odd goal so it's not unusual to not score that many against them. Also as probably already said, Jose set up quite defensively anyway which was never helped especially as a isolated striker.
If anyone below six you consider is bottom then yes. Rom isn't the problem and playing attacking free flowing football, he'll do what he's done better that 99% of the strikers in the league, score goals.

 

[finneh]

I guess the question is whether the club are happy with a good but very expensive finisher in the squad, knowing that Rashford has the potential to be a great centre forward for a decade so having a good and more experienced striker in Lukaku as a rotation option now but inevitably a second choice once the former develops further; or whether given his wages they would prefer to cash in whilst his stock is still somewhat high, rather than his value continue to deteriorate.

My personal preference would be to let him go. I believe that his £35m salary until 2022 plus possibly a £45m fee we could get for him could provide a better option both now and going forward. I think with this £25m annual investment (transfer fee + wages) we could bring in a much better and probably more versatile attacker that could provide an option at both RW and as a backup for Rashford when required at CF.

Obviously if we had unlimited funds it would be great to have Lukaku and said player; but realistically with Lukaku, Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Mata & Sanchez we probably need to sell one to buy another and Lukaku is unlikely to be as willing as say Mata to be second choice. With the fee we'd receive and the wage burden he'd release I think Lukaku is the obvious option.

What I think is indisputable however is that he was never, is currently not, and will never be a great centre forward. This isn't due to his current levels of weight and laziness that can be worked on by our fitness staff, it's down to his technical limitations.

he lost a father

Where did you read this as it's not something I've seen or heard about?

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Who are the top strikers in the PL right now? The only ones that have a clear case are Aguero and Kane (maybe Aubemayang)? Firmino gets the Benzema treatment and that biases me against him.

Kane and Aguero are truly elite. Next up are Firmino and Aubamayang. Lukaku is probably in the next bracket. He's clearly a good/solid goalscorer but falls flat in other areas. I'd love it if he were willing to be a squad player/rotational CF. His nose for goal is valuable but you know he's never going to be one of the absolute best in his position.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Wait, so Lukaku is not a huge downgrade from Kane? Are you having a laugh? Are you from Belgium or something? Nobody rates Lukaku anywhere even close to Kane. Because it is absurd.

He must be his love child.

I can't see how anyone cannot understand that goals are not the oh thing that's important to a striker. They are obviously one of the elements you judge a striker on, but not the sole factor.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

He must be his love child.

I can't see how anyone cannot understand that goals are not the oh thing that's important to a striker. They are obviously one of the elements you judge a striker on, but not the sole factor.

So if Lukaku’s passing stats as in key passes, assists, crosses and all that are better does that mean he is better than Kane or is there something else, some unknown factor that just makes Kane better?

I’m certainly in agreement that goals aren’t the only factor and neither are assist and so on because there are things that happen in game that can’t be measured, but Kane’s movement isn’t better than Lukaku’s and the one trait he does have which is much better is his first touch and I would say he seems to just have that thing g where the ball falls to him but Kane isn’t that technical of a footballer.

I’ll admit I’m not a massive Kane fan, If I was building a team and had Cart Blanche he wouldn’t be someone I look at as I just don’t like that type of striker but he is one hell of a goal scorer, but for me Lukaku offers more movement and pace with an ability to bang them in although if I had my way then Mbappe would be playing up front or Aguero as that is just the type of striker I prefer.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Come on....we both know most of the time the games against the top teams are generally won by the odd goal so it's not unusual to not score that many against them. Also as probably already said, Jose set up quite defensively anyway which was never helped especially as a isolated striker.
If anyone below six you consider is bottom then yes. Rom isn't the problem and playing attacking free flowing football, he'll do what he's done better that 99% of the strikers in the league, score goals.

I just looked at the teams (you or someone else) mentioned he had scored against. Yet he hasn't scored against them for us, he has he. What he's done for us is important, not for West Brom or Everton. 18 months is a good period of time to be evaluated on.

Furthermore the top 7 (Inc us) has been pretty consistent over the last few years, so it's a good barrometer. I'm sure you could split the PL into 25th percentiles and abuse etc, but I don't have the time or inclination.

2 goals in 18 matches is pathetic. 0 goals in 5 CL matches this season is pathetic. Obviously there is a Jose effect, even so you expect far better than what he's delivered against the better teams.

 

[Litch]

Well you utterly miss my point.

You used the example of DDG, and the usual measurement of a keeper is on clean sheets, and based on that he must be one of the worst keepers in the league - agree? But we all know he's one of the best.

Therefore, it's churlish just to use goals as a measure of a striker. Get it?

Not at all. Irrespective of stats my point is I'm not bothered about what the striker does once it's in addition to his main role which is scoring goals. Same principle of my goalkeeper, he's there to makes saves and not the measure but as a consequence, we might keep a clean sheet. Clean sheets means he is doing his job and if Rom is scoring he's doing his....

 

[amolbhatia50k]

So if Lukaku’s passing stats as in key passes, assists, crosses and all that are better does that mean he is better than Kane or is there something else, some unknown factor that just makes Kane better?

I’m certainly in agreement that goals aren’t the only factor and neither are assist and so on because there are things that happen in game that can’t be measured, but Kane’s movement isn’t better than Lukaku’s and the one trait he does have which is much better is his first touch and I would say he seems to just have that thing g where the ball falls to him but Kane isn’t that technical of a footballer.

I’ll admit I’m not a massive Kane fan, If I was building a team and had Cart Blanche he wouldn’t be someone I look at as I just don’t like that type of striker but he is one hell of a goal scorer, but for me Lukaku offers more movement and pace with an ability to bang them in although if I had my way then Mbappe would be playing up front or Aguero as that is just the type of striker I prefer.

So you're still unable to figure out why Kane is better? Have you tried to watching the two play football?

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

So if Lukaku’s passing stats as in key passes, assists, crosses and all that are better does that mean he is better than Kane or is there something else, some unknown factor that just makes Kane better?

I’m certainly in agreement that goals aren’t the only factor and neither are assist and so on because there are things that happen in game that can’t be measured, but Kane’s movement isn’t better than Lukaku’s and the one trait he does have which is much better is his first touch and I would say he seems to just have that thing g where the ball falls to him but Kane isn’t that technical of a footballer.

You are right to an extent, that there are lots of things that contribute to how good a player is, and some of these can be measured - but there are so many other things that you just can't measured by stats, it's not American Football.

Everyone knows Kane is a better player than Lukuku, only some of the reasons can be explained by stats. He just "is" and it's like night and day when you see them on the pitch.

 

[Litch]

An over simplification in the absence of a genuine argument.

• I never said he was lucky. You made that up. You're projecting an argument that doesn't exist to debate against it.
• Goalscoring isn't the be all and end all. Messi while scoring 30 goals contributes more to the team than Defoe while scoring 31. One only needs a working pair of eyes to be able to see that.
• Lukaku isn't as good as the best strikers in football. Heck, he's below even Aubamayang and Firmino let alone the likes of Salah and Aguero. Are you debating this?
• "Focus on technical and not the hardest thing in footballer (TM) blah blah". Look , as adults we should be capable of identifying strengths and weaknesses. Lukaku is a good goalscorer but has a weak all round game. All in all, he's much better than the recent criticsm but he's clearly not a top class striker.

I'll Simplify it even more then, you don't know rock all compared to those qualified and experienced to identify Rom's quality. The only place your opinion has any merit is from your keyboard. If I'm to accept what you are saying, I have to then somehow question why Chelsea, West Brom, Everton and more importantly Utd thought differently to some bloke on a forum. I have to also wonder why one of the biggest rappers ever want this donkey of a footballer associated with his brand and why any professional sports manufacturer worth billions of pounds want this average footballer wearing their boots (and pay him for the privilege). God all these millions of pounds spent on him, when you could have saved them the trouble....Do you think these people have made money investing in average?

Whilst I'm willing to do the dance on here, I also sooner believe that the clubs right until otherwise. Rom hasn't been a failure here and I'm more than happy to focus on what he can do rather than what he can't. For me, I generally wait until someone's career is over before determining what is or isn't otherwise inadvertently I'm wrong.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

So you're still unable to figure out why Kane is better? Have you tried to watching the two play football?

Have you watched the two? Because from everything I’ve seen you write I don’t think you have. Because as I pointed out earlier in the 1 season they basically went head to head playing at their best Lukaku’s overall game and stats were better than Kane’s and goal tally was separated by Kane’s 5 penalties resulting in his 29 goals to Lukaku’s 25 as he had only taken 1 penalty. Passing, crosses and so on Lukaku won that duel and was a far more involved team player.

You seem to be going off of what you saw under the Jose regime which was some one using a player in a manner that wouldn’t suit him or get the best out of him. Ole has addressed this and so has Lukaku and it’s what most who had seen Lukaku in the past mentioned as well that Jose was just using him wrong as he did with most assets in his team.

So Kane has had the benefit of playing under a better manager utilising his talents properly with a great supporting cast around him, let’s see what Lukaku can do with someone who seems to know how to use him.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

I'll Simplify it even more then, you don't know rock all compared to those qualified and experienced to identify Rom's quality. The only place your opinion has any merit is from your keyboard.

What the hell do you know mate? You can't seem to comprehend there's more to just goals for a player, and yes clubs make mistakes buying players. God knows, Utd have made enough of them over the past 5 years, and even before that.

This is a discussion board. Perhaps you can tell us all your qualifications and experience which mean your opinion on Lukuku is right, whereas others' are wrong?!

 

[Haddock]

Lukaku's strike rate is one of a top striker no matter which way you look at it. It appears you just want a flashy new toy

Seriously? Harry Kane's ability on the ball, his ability to do things in one or two touches, to hold defenders off, roll them - all far and away superior to Lukaku. Lukaku might not be a very technically competent footballer but if we can get him playing to his strengths he can overcome all that. He was unplayable in that Brazil game. That said, if you watch spurs you see how Kane can get a lumped long ball hold off two men and pass it and initiate an attack. Lukaku just doesn't do that. But Kane is equally adept at counter attacking football (which Lukaku can do very well). And just look at Kane's goals and the quality of them, the one touch finishes from tight angles (Chelsea in the semis of the FA Cup), the volleys, weak foot goals, long rangers (when's the last time Rom took a shot outside the box?). The same with Aguero, he can get a shot off from anywhere and any angle. Just look at that goal he scored this week. Lukaku's a very very good player and far from being as bad as the caf describes him, but Kane's a great one (and he's still nowhere near the game changer Rooney was). We don't always need the best of the best playing for our team but we do need consistent quality. Lukaku if he plays like he can play is a player for United. Simple rule - great players proper game changers can be indulged (to a point) with inconsistent performances because they can change a match with one move. Lesser players need to be at 7/10 to justify themselves in big clubs. (See Herrera)

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

You have been told Jose has left right? That was a side or style that exposed Lukaku’s weaknesses.

How does this Ole side expose Lukaku’s weaknesse? If anything it shows his strengths, Lukaku has mentioned it and so has Ole. People really do need to erase the Lukaku they saw under the Toxic one and go watch some of his Everton stuff to get a better idea of what the player we bought is about because I read this forum and it’s like no one has ever seen him outside of playing for Jose.

I have explained this in my previous posts.

I don’t know about other people, but I hardly see people think of him as league 2 players. People just don’t think he’s good enough to lead our attack to the next level of challenging the league. And the way how he plays doesn’t suit with our attacking style that relies on fluidity and quick link up play in a tight spot, which exactly exposing his weakness.

Personally he’s good player but only for a striker at Everton’s level or a team who is going for 4th place or top 4 only. We are Manchester United and we should be aiming to challenging the league, at the very best super sub or plan B is the best for his role in a club like us.

And let me ask you back now, what makes you think that the style that we have been playing under Ole against Cardiff, Huddersfield, Bournemouth & Newcastle will suit Lukaku?

I can’t see him playing under the same style that we have been playing recently unless if Ole decides to change it. The best for Lukaku to make impact will be if we are going for plan B by coming from the bench as a super sub which what he has done under Ole.

 

[adexkola]

Lukaku's a very very good player and far from being as bad as the caf describes him, but Kane's a great one (and he's still nowhere near the game changer Rooney was). We don't always need the best of the best playing for our team but we do need consistent quality. Lukaku if he plays like he can play is a player for United. Simple rule - great players proper game changers can be indulged (to a point) with inconsistent performances because they can change a match with one move. Lesser players need to be at 7/10 to justify themselves in big clubs. (See Herrera)

Agreed especially on the bolded.

 

[Loublaze]

He's not a top striker no matter whichever way you look at it. It appears you're just a massive fanboi of his.

A massive 'fanboi'? Lukaku scores every where he goes does he not? How old are you 12?

Wait, so Lukaku is not a huge downgrade from Kane? Are you having a laugh? Are you from Belgium or something? Nobody rates Lukaku anywhere even close to Kane. Because it is absurd.

Spurs don't pay their players jack shit. Whoever they replace Kane with would most likely be a downgrade because they will not pay what top players demand, they wouldnt even afford Lukaku. Massive downgrade is wrong though, Lukaku is a proven goalscorer and that negates a lot of the over the top criticisms you have about his overall game. Use your head man.

Shit. I didn't know that. I would presume his father was unwell for a while before he died. So that could well be a big factor in why Lukaku's been so poor for most of this season.

I was mistaken, it wasnt his father but he apparently had a family bereavement and thus was the reason for his compassionate leave. No further details were made available.

Where did you read this as it's not something I've seen or heard about?

See above

He must be his love child.

I can't see how anyone cannot understand that goals are not the oh thing that's important to a striker. They are obviously one of the elements you judge a striker on, but not the sole factor.

Alrighty Mr. Know it all, who should United sign?

 

[cyberman]

Refresh my memory with specifics, I mean I remember we totally blew teams away that season, and Larson joined us in January when United always stepped up a gear under Fergie

We didn't blow any anybody away. We lost to Arsenal twice and drew at home to Chelsea
The Larsson period was the big win away to Spurs with Rio in goal, the Ronaldo goal v Fulham, the O Shea goal at Anfield, the Ronaldo / Rooney breakaway goal v Bolton.
It was a magical period.
Larsson may have been gone by Roma, not sure.

 

[Foxbatt]

Have you ever seen him play for Belgium?

I have plenty of times and the main reason he plays for Belgium is because he plays for a top club in the EPL. When he plays for Belgium he has only scored against Croatia as per a top team in a competitive match. The rest were against minnows or friendlies. You must also remember that he has two world class players next to him when he plays for Belgium. They do not need to double up on Lukaku as they are forced to double up on Hazard and KDB. Would it help him if he has that kind of two players alongside him at United? Of course. It would give him more time to control the ball probably and has more space. But as I have mentioned he has rarely scored against a big team when playing for Belgium.

 

[Foxbatt]

I think Lukaku panics when he gets the ball. It could be a mental thing. You look at how he behaves. He has this look of panic on his face and he hurries everything. He needs to calm down and slow down and do it at this own pace instead of what he thinks others expect him to do.
Look at the ball he allowed to bounce in front of him and then head it straight up in the air. He could have done anything he wanted to do with that ball. He had no one close. He could have controlled it with his chest or anywhere he wanted but no, he let it bounce and gave the time for the defender to get to him.
But he is not a top world class striker and we all should accept that.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Chelsea would take him back in a heartbeat. I could also see him at Spurs, PSG, Monaco or one of the serie A clubs. You'd be surprised.

Most of your picks really interested me, instead of choosing teams who are challenging tier 1 or 2 league like Real, Barcelona, Liverpool, City or even Bayern and Juve, you choose the ones that most of them are challenging top 4 which exactly what I said that Lukaku is a good player for a team who is challenging top 4 at best or everton’s level.

Chelsea fans @Pow already confirm that Lukaku isn’t good enough to lead them for the title. He’s a Chelsea fans and he knows the standards of the club and you shouldn’t argue with him about it.

Spurs is not even title challenger, they are aiming for the top 4. If they want challenging the title, they won’t downgrade Kane to Lukaku. If with Kane they can’t challenge the league, what makes you think they will transform into title challenger if they replace him with Lukaku? And they aren’t silly enough to take Lukaku who has high wages that not worth his ability.

PSG? Playing in Ligue 1 will suit him more than playing in tier 1 league like La Liga and EPL but he won’t start over Cavani.

AS Monaco and some random serie A clubs below Juve level I can agree with that. We can finally have an agreement

 

[Loublaze]

I have plenty of times and the main reason he plays for Belgium is because he plays for a top club in the EPL. When he plays for Belgium he has only scored against Croatia as per a top team in a competitive match. The rest were against minnows or friendlies. You must also remember that he has two world class players next to him when he plays for Belgium. They do not need to double up on Lukaku as they are forced to double up on Hazard and KDB. Would it help him if he has that kind of two players alongside him at United? Of course. It would give him more time to control the ball probably and has more space. But as I have mentioned he has rarely scored against a big team when playing for Belgium.

He has Martial, Rashford and Alexis FFS. How many big teams has Kane scored against for England in competitive matches?

 

[Foxbatt]

He has Martial, Rashford and Alexis FFS. How many big teams has Kane scored against for England in competitive matches?

I would be most happy as a United fan if Martial, Rashford and even Sanchez are as good as Hazard and KDB. It would be ridiculous to even think that our players are half as good as Hazard and KDB.
As for Kane he has scored against Germany, France, Slovenia and Croatia as the bigger teams. You can add Colombia too to the list as they are no minnow. Lukaku only scored against Croatia.

 

[Loublaze]

Most of your picks really interested me, instead of choosing teams who are challenging tier 1 or 2 league like Real, Barcelona, Liverpool, City or even Bayern and Juve, you choose the ones that most of them are challenging top 4 which exactly what I said that Lukaku is a good player for a team who is challenging top 4 at best or everton’s level.

Chelsea fans @Pow already confirm that Lukaku isn’t good enough to lead them for the title. He’s a Chelsea fans and he knows the standards of the club and you shouldn’t argue with him about it.

Spurs is not even title challenger, they are aiming for the top 4. If with Kane they can’t challenge the league, what makes you think they will transform into title challenger if they replace him with Lukaku? And they aren’t silly enough to take Lukaku who has high wages that not worth his ability.

PSG? Playing in Ligue 1 will suit him more than playing in tier 1 league like La Liga and EPL but he won’t start over Cavani.

AS Monaco and some random serie A clubs below Juve level I can agree with that. We can finally have an agreement

This was an opinion article from 2 years ago before he signed from United

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-manchester-united-juventus-psg-a7631806.html

A French publication at the same time also listed those clubs as possible destinations, including Bayern Munich

 

[Loublaze]

I would be most happy as a United fan if Martial, Rashford and even Sanchez are as good as Hazard and KDB. It would be ridiculous to even think that our players are half as good as Hazard and KDB.
As for Kane he has scored against Germany, France, Slovenia and Croatia as the bigger teams. You can add Colombia too to the list as they are no minnow. Lukaku only scored against Croatia.

Were those competitive games? Did you understand my question? 62 FIFA ranked Slovenia are a big team now? I wasn't aware of that. Colombia is the strongest there no doubt, but not a top tier national team

 

[Foxbatt]

We all know what happened after 2 years. He ended up at United and that is the whole problem. If he had gone to any other club mentioned in the article then I would have no issues with him at all.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

I have explained this in my previous posts.





And let me ask you back now, what makes you think that the style that we have been playing under Ole against Cardiff, Huddersfield, Bournemouth & Newcastle will suit Lukaku?

I can’t see him playing under the same style that we have been playing recently unless if Ole decides to change it. The best for Lukaku to make impact will be if we are going for plan B by coming from the bench as a super sub which what he has done under Ole.

I think we must view how this current team is playing or is going to play very differently because City or Barca we are not and we will not be playing soft touchy touchy football in tiny triangles and spaces. We will be hopefully a traditional United team that attacks quickly and puts people to the sword and for that players like Rashford, Martial and Lukaku will be key. Having someone like Lukaku who will hopefully be playing on the shoulder should open space for Pogba to operate in.

Yes recently in isolated spots in games mainly on the left side we have seen tight interchanges of passes between Martial, Pogba and Shaw but really that is about it. Rashford job has been to stretch the opposition and run the channels things Lukaku can do no bother.

When we fix the right side issue and have someone capable of keeping the width and not doing a Mata or Lingard we’ll see the space start to open up more natrually and Pogba will hopefully have a field day pinging passes to any of the front 3.

Serious;y you should go watch some highlights from Lukaku’s last season to see the kind of things he is capable of when used correctly which for me suits the system Ole is going for.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Look at the teams this French article thought he could play for when he was 23

This was an opinion article from 2 years ago before he signed from United

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-manchester-united-juventus-psg-a7631806.html

A French publication at the same time also listed those clubs as possible destinations, including Bayern Munich

Two years is a long time in football. You can find anything on the Internet...

In 18 months he’s proved that he’s not been good enough to play at a top club, he hasn’t made the step up.

A top side wouldn’t touch him, some of that is to do with how much we are paying him, but who is going to pay for a striker who scored 2 goals in 18 appearances against the better sides in the league?

Best case at Utd is that he’s a squad player, which is not good enough for £75-90m, or we sell him back to Everton at a loss.

 

[Loublaze]

We all know what happened after 2 years. He ended up at United and that is the whole problem. If he had gone to any other club mentioned in the article then I would have no issues with him at all.

The guy was bought to score goals. He scored 27 in his first season, same as the so called football god Zlatan a season before, and he's our leading goalscorer this season. How is he holding United back? @ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg

 

[Twingatz]

Most of your picks really interested me, instead of choosing teams who are challenging tier 1 or 2 league like Real, Barcelona, Liverpool, City or even Bayern and Juve, you choose the ones that most of them are challenging top 4 which exactly what I said that Lukaku is a good player for a team who is challenging top 4 at best or everton’s level.

Chelsea fans @Pow already confirm that Lukaku isn’t good enough to lead them for the title. He’s a Chelsea fans and he knows the standards of the club and you shouldn’t argue with him about it.

Spurs is not even title challenger, they are aiming for the top 4. If they want challenging the title, they won’t downgrade Kane to Lukaku. If with Kane they can’t challenge the league, what makes you think they will transform into title challenger if they replace him with Lukaku? And they aren’t silly enough to take Lukaku who has high wages that not worth his ability.

PSG? Playing in Ligue 1 will suit him more than playing in tier 1 league like La Liga and EPL but he won’t start over Cavani.
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AS Monaco and some random serie A clubs below Juve level I can agree with that. We can finally have an agreement

I think your assessment is unfair. He is much better than he is showing and he is good for a title winning side if played to his strengths. A lot of his issue is due to pressure and a manager trying to make him something he is not. Also fans like you who disrespect him and jeer him. He can be world class and years from now you will remember him for doing big things for the team weather you like it or not. Just remember that.