[Sandikan]

Exactly. Its like some want him to fail so that they can get something to laugh about. He has been shit this season and yet he is our joint top scorer, now that's funny.

The absolute minute studying of ever element of every player from so many outlets sums up how hard it is to be a United player.
It's also why we overrate players from elsewhere at times and underrate our own.

The most obvious time this was shown was when people were suggesting all sorts of absolute mediocrities in midfield from other clubs!

 

[VeevaVee]

We don't have that player. I'm thinking about the goal Aguero scored against Liverpool a few days ago. If that is the standard then let's flog off our attackers and start again.

I wasn’t implying that we do, but that we need to buy a quality striker. I’d expect Martial or Rashford to do better than him given any scenario though.

 

[Reiver]

Don't think he was nearly as bad today as some are making out. Thought there were far worse out there such as Fred and Mata

 

[King7Eric]

From that distance with the way the ball was set up a top forward like RVP or Rooney or Kane or even Rashford would have taken a shot at goal, because they would have had enough confidence in their ability to pull it off. Not saying they would have scored, probably gone off target 7/10 times but at least they would back themselves. Lukaku knows he doesn't really have that ability to do the extraordinary and we need a CF who has that to regularly win major trophies again.

 

[Snafu17]

For all the criticism he's basically on pace for 20 goals this season isn't he?

 

[Loublaze]

From that distance with the way the ball was set up a top forward like RVP or Rooney or Kane or even Rashford would have taken a shot at goal, because they would have had enough confidence in their ability to pull it off. Not saying they would have scored, probably gone off target 7/10 times but at least they would back themselves. Lukaku knows he doesn't really have that ability to do the extraordinary and we need a CF who has that to regularly win major trophies again.

This is really reaching. Congrats

 

[King7Eric]

This is really reaching. Congrats

It's the simple truth. Lukaku has been here for 1.5 years. Can you remember him pulling any remarkable piece of skill or scoring a goal out of nothing in that time? Can you realistically fathom him scoring a goal like Aguero did the other night?

 

[Adisa]

@GifLord Any chance of a gif at 59min when the ball was up in the air, Lukaku was below it and just let it bounce back up instead of attempting to control it?

Sunday league stuff.

Was laughing. The guy does not trust himself.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

The recent goals shouldn't fool anyone imo.

If there's a buyer in the summer, you sell while he still has some sort of value.

He's not good enough.

That moment where he let the ball bounce instead of trying to settle it sums him up.

 

[JPRouve]

It was an interesting game, he showed what he is very good at which is run at defenders when he has lots of room and run behind them to put himself in 1v1, his goal was a pretty good sign that he is retrieving his instincts but he cannot be trusted in general play and potentially tight games, he struggles when he is stationary, his first touch is inconsistent, his passing and movement in tight spaces are poor.

 

[Antisocial]

I almost cried.

 

[el3mel]

For all the criticism he's basically on pace for 20 goals this season isn't he?

Is that supposed to be a good enough return ? We want a +30 goals striker with at least 20-25 goals in the league.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Is tha supposed to be a good enough return ? We want a +30 goals striker with at least 20-25 goals in the league.

And zero goals on the CL, and zero goals against any top sides. That’s not good enough.

 

[Snafu17]

Is tha supposed to be a good enough return ? We want a +30 goals striker with at least 20-25 goals in the league.

I mean yeah, we could disregard the fact that the team collectively shat their pants for half the season, but football usually happens with context.

feck it, I'm not even saying he's necessarily good enough, but it does speak volumes how good of a goalscorer he is, if he can (he may not) bang 20 goals in one of his worst seasons.

 

[Cassidy]

I mean yeah, we could disregard the fact that the team collectively shat their pants for half the season, but football usually happens with context.

feck it, I'm not even saying he's necessarily good enough, but it does speak volumes how good of a goalscorer he is, if he can (he may not) bang 20 goals in one of his worst seasons.

Or just one of his usual ones...

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

He's surely second choice now, and if he can accept that then he's a good option to have from the bench.

He's a bit like Hernandez, a high scoring clinical finisher, but extremely limited in most other areas, and that just doesn't cut it at a top club.

 

[Snafu17]

Or just one of his usual ones...

He scored 25+ in each of his last three. Two of those playing for Everton. The idea that his form wasn't significantly better in the past few seasons is just dumb.

I'll add that I didn't even want him here to begin with. I just think it's monumentally stupid to light a bonfire for every player that has a shit few months.

 

[Adisa]

There is a reason Klopp has always played Firmino despite not being a prolific striker even when Sturridge was fit. It's the same reason Lukaku will not displace Rashford even if Lukaku is a proven goal scorer.
If you watched the game closely, you would have noticed Lukaku didn't lead the press when the Reading defence or GK had the ball. Mata, McTominay and Fred were taking turns to lead the press. You can't trust Lukaku to do that job and I can't see it changing.

 

[Cassidy]

He scored 25+ in each of his last three. Two of those playing for Everton.

League goals? And yes both seasons where he was incredibility streaky and went on long runs of games scoring 0. What I am saying is it is not unusual for him to go on steaks of games scoring 0.

 

[Red Stone]

He's a bit like Hernandez, a high scoring clinical finisher, but extremely limited in most other areas, and that just doesn't cut it at a top club.

Except Hernandez had a knack for scoring against the best teams. Ran riot against Chelsea especially, but bagged quite a few against Liverpool too.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

Except Hernandez had a knack for scoring against the best teams. Ran riot against Chelsea especially, but bagged quite a few against Liverpool too.

Lukaku can do the same now we're playing more attacking football, just depends how he reacts to starting on the bench more often, but maybe too bigger name/wages to do it long term, unlike Hernandez.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Haha still funny, he had so much time & space to control the ball with either his chest or his feet, it's quicker, effective & easier way than what he attempted. Proof that he shouldn't be anywhere near in our XI right now, he's just going to slow us down. He can use his goal instinct as a super sub or plan B.

 

[Snafu17]

League goals? And yes both seasons where he was incredibility streaky and went on long runs of games scoring 0. What I am saying is it is not unusual for him to go on steaks of games scoring 0.

The idea is he can still improve, he's 25 after all. I don't know how many strikers managed 25 league goals in a non top 6 team.

Some if not most strikers tend to be streaky. It doesn't really matter if you have enough quality around them to pitch in when they have a dry spell.

 

[sport2793]

I have got few issues with Lukaku. I was pleased with his play last season and during the world cup. Not sure why we are deciding to play him as a target man as the main difference between him and Zlatan was that he was willing to run the channels and as a result brought more dynamism to the attack. I also think he was in poor shape post world cup and combined with injuries has taken a long time to get going this year.

As of right now I definitely view Rashford as first choice because he is starting to fulfill his potential (build up play plus added finishing). Lukaku will probably never match the build up play that Rashford provides but he's better than your average mid table PL striker. I think Chelsea would still have been better off with Lukaku instead of Morata for ex.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Except Hernandez had a knack for scoring against the best teams. Ran riot against Chelsea especially, but bagged quite a few against Liverpool too.

Hernandez has a good movement while Lukaku is static that he was able to bagged those goals against top teams. Lukaku is basically Hernandez with physical strength & power but less movement.

 

[Cassidy]

The idea is he can still improve, he's 25 after all. I don't know how many strikers managed 25 league goals in a non top 6 team.

Some if not most strikers tend to be streaky. It doesn't really matter if you have enough quality around them to pitch in when they have a dry spell.

Not many I thought that was his best season. He hasn't come close to that before or after don't think he has managed 20 before or after that. Still even in that season he went missing.
The issue with him for me is when he isn't scoring he adds very little, needs to work on that and of course needs to work on big game impact. I think he is a good striker but not good enough for what we would want as a starter

 

[Mrdan1709]

For all the criticism he's basically on pace for 20 goals this season isn't he?

Even if he scores 30 goals he isnt good enough. And the best example i can provide to you of this is mario gomez, who despite scoring many goals in bayern was binned for mandzukic...a player who scores less goals but contributes more to the team.

 

[pablo__p]

Unless he massively improves his link-up game, movement and gets rid of how static/passive he tends to be he should be impact sub at best.

 

[Rozay]

That was pretty much the good, bad and ugly of Romelu Lukaku today. Took his goal well, exact same scenario as against Spurs but on his left foot today. He requires lots of space to be effective generally speaking though, as of course, touch isn’t required to be as tight with open space.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

It would surprise me a lot if Ole, on the basis of this match, shifts Rashford out wide and plays Lukaku as the main striker.

I don't think Ole will feck up the first signs of a fluid attack we've seen for years. Lukaku will probably be used in rotation and as an impact sub.

I don't think so.

I think Ole and Rashford have a special bond and he's gonna push him and Martial for the rest of the season.

I know Lukaku has scored but he's not shone and still isn't what we want as a striker.

I hope you’re all right but the last two games when he’s had them both on the pitch now, Rashford's been pushed out wide. Lukaku has also scored in both.

 

[Tomuś]

Yeah it's nice to see people still shit on him.

Nicely taken goal but he'll get his usual amount of flak he always gets.

Can't win, can he? Almost like there was ready-made argument waiting for his performances under Ole. In case he would continue not scoring: 'See, even Ole can't change that lump' If he started scoring and actually looking useful in our front three formation: 'Well he scored against some cannon fodder but he still fecks up all the moves' etc.The best was after Newcastle where he basically won it after coming on, played a massive part in getting the second and would've added another one to his tally had it not been for Pogba's brainfart. All in 30 minutes at best.

Have to wait and see, I won't bet against the opinions taking an U-turn after some time despite him not necessarily playing any better. Happened already on here with the likes of Herrera, Fellaini and Valencia.

 

[OverratedOpinion]

Oof. Thats painful to watch. Nothing against him personally, but no way he should be starting when we have Rashford and Martial who are equally good goalscorers, but much, much better in pretty much everything else

I rate both of them highly but there is literally nothing to point to which would tell you they are equally good goal scorers. Lukaku has over 100 Premier League goals and is Belgium's top scorer of all time having turned 25 not long ago.

 

[Jonas Hagman]

Just isnt smart enough to be playing for a team like United. Most of the things that wrong with him can be tied back to a lack of intellect.

He's our topscorer ffs, wake up!!

 

[Ashley R1+O]

Yeah it's nice to see people still shit on him.

Nicely taken goal but he'll get his usual amount of flak he always gets.

Yeah its pretty weird. The clubs own fans having a go at their own player for no reason other than to be the biggest billy bollocks having a go at their own player.

Another good performance and a confident goal, I think he's still lacking that sharpness and trying to break out of the slump. We just have to stop fanging the ball at him in the air, he's much better coming short with it along the ground and linking up play. A few more really good moments and the odd bad one, it happens. I noticed when Mata plays he gets in the way of the striker coming short. It happened to Rashford a little bit as well. The striker drops to link up play and there is Mata about 3 yards away offering nothing but bringing his defender inside clogging the space.

Almost like there was ready-made argument waiting for his performances under Ole.

People are just here to whiff their own farts and continue their own negative self fulfilling prophecies. It isn't half obvious.

"Ooooof a passage of play happened in a game of 90 minutes, how shit is he!"

Like I said above, it is just weird. But ho hum, people support in their own special way I guess.

 

[el3mel]

I mean yeah, we could disregard the fact that the team collectively shat their pants for half the season, but football usually happens with context.

feck it, I'm not even saying he's necessarily good enough, but it does speak volumes how good of a goalscorer he is, if he can (he may not) bang 20 goals in one of his worst seasons.

It's not good enough of a return whatever the whole team was shite or not. We can talk about reasons for that that's another thing though.

Last season he only scored 16 league goals too, which wasn't enough imo if you looked at it.

I want my striker to bang in 20-25 goals in the league alone away from othe competitions.

 

[Jonas Hagman]

It's not good enough of a return whatever the whole team was shite or not. We can talk about reasons for that that's another thing though.

Last season he only scored 16 league goals too, which wasn't enough imo if you looked at it.

I want my striker to bang in 20-25 goals in the league alone away from othe competitions.

We did not have the right manager i think you seems to forget that? If you can't see Lukaku is shining under he's new boss ok good for you who cares.

If he does better will you support Lukaku then?

 

[Sauldogba]

Yeah its pretty weird. The clubs own fans having a go at their own player for no reason other than to be the biggest billy bollocks having a go at their own player.

Another good performance and a confident goal, I think he's still lacking that sharpness and trying to break out of the slump. We just have to stop fanging the ball at him in the air, he's much better coming short with it along the ground and linking up play. A few more really good moments and the odd bad one, it happens. I noticed when Mata plays he gets in the way of the striker coming short. It happened to Rashford a little bit as well. The striker drops to link up play and there is Mata about 3 yards away offering nothing but bringing his defender inside clogging the space.


People are just here to whiff their own farts and continue their own negative self fulfilling prophecies. It isn't half obvious.

"Ooooof a passage of play happened in a game of 90 minutes, how shit is he!"

Like I said above, it is just weird. But ho hum, people support in their own special way I guess.

They are scared thats why.
Scared that when the cafes darling Rashford keeps on missing sitters and eventually hits a dry patch that Lukaku will eventually take his place.
He could score a hatrick and they will still look for something to complain about.

We saw it with Berbatov vs Hernandez,Rooney vs Kagawa,Martial vs Rashford,now we are seeing it with Rashford vs Lukaku.

Dont get me wrong i would carrying on playing Rashford as a number 9 but these posters have a hidden agenda.
We will see the same thing with Martial vs Sanchez soon.

 

[el3mel]

We did not have the right manager i think you seems to forget that? If you can't see Lukaku is shining under he's new boss ok good for you who cares.

If he does better will you support Lukaku then?

Well sure give me 25 goals in the league and I will support him why not ?

 

[Canagel]

Yeah its pretty weird. The clubs own fans having a go at their own player for no reason other than to be the biggest billy bollocks having a go at their own player.

Another good performance and a confident goal, I think he's still lacking that sharpness and trying to break out of the slump. We just have to stop fanging the ball at him in the air, he's much better coming short with it along the ground and linking up play. A few more really good moments and the odd bad one, it happens. I noticed when Mata plays he gets in the way of the striker coming short. It happened to Rashford a little bit as well. The striker drops to link up play and there is Mata about 3 yards away offering nothing but bringing his defender inside clogging the space.


People are just here to whiff their own farts and continue their own negative self fulfilling prophecies. It isn't half obvious.

"Ooooof a passage of play happened in a game of 90 minutes, how shit is he!"

Like I said above, it is just weird. But ho hum, people support in their own special way I guess.

His link up play is poor. Fact. What's the problem if people point it out? Is it difficult to accept his weaknesses?
Rashford is by no means the finished article but right now his all round game, link up play and pressing is better suited to our game. It's just simple fact. Lukaku did well chasing a ball and outmuscling player in the box today and had to use a lot of energy. When the camera panned in on him he was out of breath. Just one high intensity sprint and he's out of breath. Rash makes 6/7 of those every game easy.
Lukaku is our player and when he's on the pitch I want him to do well because it means our chances of winning will be better but as straight choice between him and Rash there's no comparison. His role of super sub is the best one currently.

 

[breakout67]

Well sure give me 25 goals in the league and I will support him why not ?

The lad scored 25+ goals two seasons running for Everton with virtually all of them in the league. He's Belgium's top scorer. Apparently he's the problem, because we don't have a history of buying big names and utilizing them incorrectly right?

Lukaku is another added to the list of signings made because of a manager's wishlist instead of long term recruitment for a specific style of play. Lukaku thrives off playing on the last shoulder yet we used him as a target man. He's basically impossible to stop when he gets going, yet how many times have we utilized his ability to run in behind?

People talk about his 'bad' movement yet there is clearly a lack of players that can actually pick out the runs he does make. He basically always makes space for himself in the box when the ball is wide, and he regularly makes diagonal runs behind the centre back that never get picked. These are runs that Everton level players have been picking for years, we just don't have that player that can actually feed a striker like that.