I think Lukaku is a better finish than Morata is, but Morata probably does have more to his overall game in regards to dropping back etc. I was delighted we signed Lukaku and would still take him ahead of Morata, but as it stands we're playing a style of football which is completely against what suits him.
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I think Lukaku is a better finish than Morata is, but Morata probably does have more to his overall game in regards to dropping back etc. I was delighted we signed Lukaku and would still take him ahead of Morata, but as it stands we're playing a style of football which is completely against what suits him.
Feels harsh to criticise him after that start of the season, but the biggest fears all seem to be true — he isn't good enough to create chances on his own and he isn't as strong and intimidating as a striker of his size should be.
Sadly, he can't involved in game if didnt get support.
If he moved to chelsea this summer, i think he will more better than us, cause Chelsea's player offer more creativity for him.
If he moved to chelsea this summer, i think he will more better than us, cause Chelsea's player offer more creativity for him.
Please look beyond the goals. No-one sane is complaining about his record, he is just not a very good footballer.
We over paid for him. He will bag you 15-20 goals in the league every season if fit, but his overall game is gash.
I just think there's a fair amount of recency bias in that viewpoint. I'm not disputing that Morata's overall game is better, I just don't think its significantly better that it would have been that much of a factor in us signing him over Lukaku or vice versa. It's not the same as the difference between, say, Benzema's all round game and Lukaku's.
I just don't think there was a striker on the market that could have performed with the garbage service we're giving them at the moment. The issue is to do with the overwhelming lack of quality in the midfield areas, especially without Pogba (although let's not pretend he's been great in the big games when he has been available) which sees us regularly lose the midfield battle.
Whoever might have come in would have been a sticking plaster for deeper issues with the squad I feel.
He doesn't get service but he can definitely do better than what he's currently doing.
For the start, he can use his physicality to hold up the ball under his feet under pressure. It's frustrating to see Morata able to hold up the ball better than him.
I like him, but he can't hold the ball and guard it for feck, he needs much more space to be effective, and that is not going to happen with Jose away games.
Why can't he do what Fellani did in the final third? He's big af.
No service yet again. Not sure how a striker like him can have any impact if he is not properly serviced by his no 10 and winger.
Needs to go on a 'first-touch' crammer course at some point too.
Needs to go on a 'first-touch' crammer course at some point too.
I just dont think he is smart enough.
He has the physical attributes to dominate defenders but doesnt know how to use then effectively.
But its once again a crime that we gave him zero crosses to deal with.
He has the physical attributes to dominate defenders but doesnt know how to use then effectively.
But its once again a crime that we gave him zero crosses to deal with.
Poor today, he needs to do better even if it's just fighting off scraps. That being said, I still think Lukaku is a top striker who now has his confidence shot and (currently) gets no support from midfield. These things happen even to the very best and I'm not too concerned just yet.
Because we dont lump the ball up to him like we do when Fellaini comes off the bench. We try to play some football. And because he's the main focus. Thats one of the reasons Fellaini can do it, because hes not the only threat in the air. If Fellaini was the only one to worry about, he wouldnt be doing it either.
His anticipation has to be one of the worst in the league?
I like him as a striker, but he is so isolated, impossible working conditions imo.
I like him as a striker, but he is so isolated, impossible working conditions imo.
What's the complete opposite of elegant?
Lukaku.
Lukaku.
He's quality but can't do it on his own without service which dried up since no Pogba. The simply line at mo is Zero.
The difference between him and Morata is that Lukaku is almost entirely reliant on service, whereas Morata can link up better and be more involved in the build up to be effective.
I can’t hold anything against Romelu today though. If we had Morata he’d have probably suffered aswell with the starvation of service and chance creation.
I can’t hold anything against Romelu today though. If we had Morata he’d have probably suffered aswell with the starvation of service and chance creation.
Do feel sorry for the big man. Feeding on absolute scraps if you can even call them that. His hold up play isn’t his strong point and yet we persist trying the same thing over and over. Maybe because we can’t string anything together in midfield.
Terrible service, but Morata is clearly a far superior footballer. It's not even close.
This 'not enough service' excuse is wearing very thin. If you watch his positioning as a forward his movement in the box can be very lazy and static, which means that he isn't offering any service for the people trying to supply him. He reminds me a lot of Rooney just before his proper decline, sub par performances masked by scrappy goals.
Yeh. Morata is fast and strong, excellent aerially, and comfortable on picking up the ball from midfield when he was starving up front.
In contrast, I almost swear Lukaku was the least running attacker on the field. He barely broke off sweat.
Stick a lamppost upfront and it won't get any service.
Again no problem in him passing through a drought out, it happens to the best strikers in the world. The problem is in his overall play. He just seems to get contained easily with defenders when no one is creating for him. I don't expect him to create for himself, but he should his build up to bully defenders and provide nuisance to them, to hold up the ball and bring the rest of his teammates up to the pitch. You can't be of that size and lose challenges that easily it's ridiculous.
If he wants to become an elite striker he must learn to play on his strength. Use your physicality ffs.
If he wants to become an elite striker he must learn to play on his strength. Use your physicality ffs.
Not going to fully judge him in big games until Pogba is back.
When is he going to be impressive?
Your obsession with no 10's is piss funny
0 touches in the Chelsea box today. Part of it is due to the supply to him, but part of it is also being the ease at which he was handled by the Chelsea defence.
Hopefully he'll go on a bit of a goalscoring run from now.
Hopefully he'll go on a bit of a goalscoring run from now.
I still rate him very much. And would not change him with moratta( who was excellent today). His performances on big matches are because of our tactics. Was zlatan better last year in those matches? Would any striker be better ?
When the ball was played up to morata when we were pushing Chelsea. He bullied our defenders took the ball kept it and forced a foul. Against 3/4 of our defenders. That is something lukaku cannot do and is nothing to do with ball supply.
Abysmal today. His first touch is absolutely atrocious.
Don't rate players based on one game. Moratta had good game, lukaku didn't. That is it.
Probably his worst game. His hold up play and general movement was gash. Looked like a misfit.
The difference between morata and lukaku in terms of technique is not off one game but their whole career.
His off the ball movement isn't good and needs an improvement. Too passive for someone who has pace.
On hindsight, resigning Zlatan was a masterstroke. Will mean he's not a guaranteed starter every game.
His hold up play just simply isn’t good enough. Cannot understand why we have signed him to play as a lone striker.
Look, don't get me wrong here it is not you, it is me
I don't like all those talks morata vs lukaku because it is apples and oranges thing. They are different type of strikers playing for different managers and in different squad. Jones and smalling are defenders who are bullied by every striker in PL. Remember what lukaku and fellaini did against them? They are defenders that make strikers better. Month ago lukaku did all those things. He is not in a form now. But he will be again.
The big problem for me is he seems easy to nullify. Defenders don't even look rattled in the slightest by him.
9/10 they know if the ball is played into his feet or the air, the result of it will be him being dispossessed or a successful pass that is in a less dangerous position.
9/10 they know if the ball is played into his feet or the air, the result of it will be him being dispossessed or a successful pass that is in a less dangerous position.
His close control and dribbling is absolutely terrible for a top striker. He can be a massive hindrance going forward but you know he's always a goal threat. Not one of our main issues.
He is what he is, create chances and he'll score a good amount of goals across a season, but his all round game has never been great and he's always been prone to these patches.
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