Drogba at his best was a much better player than Lukaku. His hold up play was fantastic and not just good, he literally tormented defences. But Drogba became that kind of player in his prime - when he was 27-28 y.o. Lukaku may develop further as a player.
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What? Lukaku's goals per game is better than Drogba's even though Lukaku played for weaker teams. He is clinical/better goal scorer or whatever.
Saying Lukaku is more clinical is not making things up, saying Drogba is million miles more mobile is making things up.
2004-05: 975 (Drogba: 10 league goals)
2005-06: 944 (Drogba: 12 league goals)
2006-07: 931 (Drogba: 20 league goals)
2007-08: 1002 (Drogba: 8league goals)
2008-09: 942 (Drogba: 5 league goals)
2009-10: 1053 (Drogba: 29 league goals)
2010-11: 1063 (Drogba: 11 league goals)
2011-12: 1066 (Drogba: 5 league goals)
2012-13: 1063 (Lukaku 17 league goals)
2013-14: 1052 (Lukaku 15 league goals)
2014-15: 975 (Drogba: 4 league goals; Lukaku 10 league goals)
2015-16: 1026 (Lukaku 18 league goals)
2016-17: 1064 (Lukaku 25 league goals)
Maybe you just don't understand what clinical means.
So Young or Martial? Based on what exactly? I mean, I'm guessing they all take free kicks etc in training and know full well the pecking order based on that.
Bold was for emphasis, which is easier in a verbal conversation, when we do this on tinternet, bold is the only option sadly.
Are you suggesting Romelu Lukaku is not fast? Err... Okay.Blitz
Or maybe you don't understand that some stats are not available for all the years.
Drogba's goal scoring record is poor especially when playing for a team as good as Chelsea who always scored loads of goals.
If anyone who thinks Lukaku isn't fast should get their eyes tested. Or maybe someone just loves to shot on Lukaku for no reasons.
Not saying it's true but surely at least some of that would be down to the managers and also the amount of competition in the team. If he wasn't doing what Mourinho wanted, there are options waiting to take his place already and we have Zlatan returning soon enough. That was nothing like the case at Everton.
Where did i suggest any of that ?
Numbers ?
Is anyone else a bit surprised by the criticisms levelled at Lukaku, particularly by pundits? The analysis always seems to be about what he doesn't do, even when he scores. Additionally, there seems to be little basis in fact for the criticisms. MOTD2 was on him about not doing it against bigger teams but didn't he score against City last season etc? Other strikers, who have scored fewer times than Rom this season, don't seem to get this level of scrutiny. Much like with Pogba, Rom is under a microscope that other players at other big clubs aren't. Despite the fact that, unlike some players, he is actually doing what a striker is meant to do: score and score consistently.
Drogba was playing for guingamp in the french league when he was the age lukaku is now. Regardless of how good or clinical drogba became,lukaku is miles ahead of where drogba was at the same stage of there careers,both a better player and more clinical. He's scoring loads more goals in a much harder league. When he hits his prime in 3 or 4 years theres no reason he cant be a better player than drogba was, and id be shocked if he isnt seen as a much better goal scorer than drogba ever was,he's arguably a better goal scorer already.
The lads going to get better and better,he's only scratching the surface,he's already a top striker and everybody whos worked with him all say his drive and dedication are as good as it gets.
The lads going to get better and better,he's only scratching the surface,he's already a top striker and everybody whos worked with him all say his drive and dedication are as good as it gets.
Zlatan has missed 18 big chances last year ?
He's brilliant and still so young! He will develop into an amazing striker and he's already bloody good. I don't know what the pundits are on about but I don't care. So far, he has 5 PL goals so I don't complain. Things will come off, I have no doubt, as the season progresses
Very good summation of the laughable hypocrisy which epitomise the criticisms thrown at Lukaku.
Zlatan missed way more than Lukaku though - Even stats showed this too. But totally agree that Lukaku is not a waster of chances. In general he's taking his chances - also what happened at Everton.
7 games - 7 goals
Long may it continue.
Long may it continue.
He's been brilliant. Yes he's missed chances but well within the expectations for a striker. Imo, Zlatan missed way more than than those expectations.
He's a huge upgrade and we've been a far more clinical and effective attacking unit. Plus he's still young and will only get better and better. Best bit of business this summer.
He's a huge upgrade and we've been a far more clinical and effective attacking unit. Plus he's still young and will only get better and better. Best bit of business this summer.
He's missed one easy chance, which was the one on one against Everton. Yes, he missed a pen against Leicester but that happens to every striker at some point. The half volley he skied against Stoke wasn't an easy chance despite the close proximity to goal. He did miss a bit of a sitter against Real Madrid in the Super Cup, but that's not really a fully competitive game.
The idea that we should be discussing the finishing quality of a bloke with seven in his first seven is frankly laughable. Every single forward misses chances, not sure why there's an agenda against Lukaku that causes his miscued efforts to be microscopically analysed compared to his counterparts. Oh, hang on, it's because he plays for United.
The idea that we should be discussing the finishing quality of a bloke with seven in his first seven is frankly laughable. Every single forward misses chances, not sure why there's an agenda against Lukaku that causes his miscued efforts to be microscopically analysed compared to his counterparts. Oh, hang on, it's because he plays for United.
It would be a lot simpler to look at the statistics of both strikers. I don't get the lack of statistics used in terms of football and comparing players. Ive heard the argument that Americans tend to look at statistics too much in sports (which is true with random statistics) but it's just way more logical. Statistic that would show how many shots each player has taken over all, how many of those were on target, how many goals. Also how many were "open chances" (1 on 1s with the keeper, free header) and how many were with pressure from a defender. Then statistics for how many shots were made per game, against which opponent. I'm sure they are out there, but it's harder to find. Look at how they break down a players consistency at the plate in baseball- batting average, on base percentage, slugging average. Way easier to compare people.
Nice to see some still have a pathetic agenda when it comes to Lukaku and no matter what he does, they'll trot out their own bollox narrative. Very good.
Lukaku's turn, awareness and pass to Mkhi was vital.
With none prouder than Henry who is coaching him too.
Has to improve and keep that level of channel-running and team play evolving. Top player he will be. Solid start.
With none prouder than Henry who is coaching him too.
Has to improve and keep that level of channel-running and team play evolving. Top player he will be. Solid start.
You'd find a good overlap between these posters and the posters who were once calling Lukaku 'clumsy', 'a lump', 'a donkey' or 'player with low football IQ' before we signed him. It must be quite difficult to admit that they were wrong about him. So now it's not his first touch that they are discussing, but it's now his finishing. Let's ignore the fact that Lukaku has scored in every game bar one this season.
I can honestly remember three bad misses from him so far this season including the penalty. Basically if he doesn't put away every single shot, he's going to be criticized. The expectations are absolutely unreal.
Hopefully he continues to be unimpressive like this and banging in the goals.
He was bought to score goals and he keeps scoring goals. That's what you call a success in the transfer market. Sometimes I think my whole life is the Truman show and people are just acting certain ways to provoke reaction from me.
The chance he missed was ridiculous. Zlatan buries those.
Then he made up with much awareness for 3rd goal and the pass to Miki for the 2nd..
Hopefully he ll grow better and better into the season
Then he made up with much awareness for 3rd goal and the pass to Miki for the 2nd..
Hopefully he ll grow better and better into the season
MOTD2 last night was surreal. Waxing lyrical about a dog-shit performance from Rooney over a laughable "highlights" reel they had somehow cobbled together, then focussed almost entirely on the negative elements of a striker who had actually scored and created a goal. Proper Twilight Zone stuff.
I'd love to see him being a little more aggressive
a lot of his chances seem to be on a plate for him
given his pace and frame/strength am I being unreasonable thinking he could create a bit more for himself? he hasn't really bullied a centre back yet has he?
a lot of his chances seem to be on a plate for him
given his pace and frame/strength am I being unreasonable thinking he could create a bit more for himself? he hasn't really bullied a centre back yet has he?
Yeah it's the same posters alright and it's pathetic. Is it so hard to hold your hands up and admit being wrong about a signing ffs? Do these posters not realise that their crusade against him completely contradicts the reality of how he has actually played for us? It's bizarre.
I find the xG stats remarkable for this type of discussions...
The stats from last year clearly shows that Lukaku is scored quite well, given the situations he were in.
To compare, Aguero should had scored more than he did, given the situations he were in.
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The stats from last year clearly shows that Lukaku is scored quite well, given the situations he were in.
To compare, Aguero should had scored more than he did, given the situations he were in.
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Be virtue of being Wayne Rooney, no matter how you actually perform, your mates on MOTD and the likes will pull a narrative out of their arse about you playing well.
As somebody who preferred Morata to Lukaku, I'm extremely happy with Lukaku. I love his movement off the ball and our first goal of the season from him on the counter was electric. I think Mou knew what he was doing buying him. He's going to bang in 20+ league goals without too much trouble IMO.
Aye there's no issue with anyone who wanted Morata over him as that's a personal preference. They're both very talented players. It's the posters with the agendas that are looking very silly as despite all the actual real life evidence to the contrary, they continue with their crusade against him.
He's been a perfect fit for us so far and I have no doubt Mourinho knew exactly how he would fit in and what he would bring to the team.
I didn't really see it like that. Ian Wright seemed to be saying that in certain circumstances he needs to make different decisions but that he's likely to improve and will score a bunch of goals anyway. He also said that against top teams you might only get one chance and him making the wrong decision might cost us. Which is sort of true.
I took it as positive criticism. However I'm not in the slightest bit worried about Lukaku. He doesn't have the touch of RVP and the decision making of a seasoned striker but he's some way off that anyway and in a couple of years will be unstoppable. But what I love most about him is his head doesn't go down when he misses a sitter. He'll throw his hands in the air, look a bit surprised or pissed off and then promptly get on with it with seemingly no loss of confidence. That alone will get him a bunch of goals.
The more I think about it the more I think it's great we got him instead of Morata because this guy puts some fear into opposition defenders whereas Morata isn't gonna give defenders nightmares in the same way.
He's already one of our most important players. I'd go as far as to say we'd miss him more than Pogba if he were to get injured now.
He's really relishing the responsibility as well. He's been wanting this step up in level to a club with serious ambition and he's embraced the opportunity it seems.
It's been mentioned that even when he misses big chances, he keeps going and continues to get himself into scoring positions. This is a great quality and one that's extremely important for the lead striker at a club that gets the amount of exposure and scrutiny that United do.
Yeah Danny Murphy was hilarious. It would be so ridiculous if it wasn't completely expected. Gotten used to the Rooney propaganda. Even though last night took it to desperate new levels.Must admit when we signed him I had some reservations about him , but I am delighted with how he is going so far , working hard with a good attitude and of course the goals. Lets hope he keeps it up.
He's not wasting chances even close to the level at which Zlatan did. Zlatan was missing chances and costing us points, Lukaku isn't doing that. His penalty miss and the miss yesterday could have been costly but atleast yesterday he more than made up for it.
I feel Young has scored more free kicks than Lukaku and martial because he cant be any worse, like i say, 1 free kick, which you found and used to justify his selection. Like i mentioned earlier it wasnt this one game he also took Mata's set play against stoke at 1-1 which was mind boggling
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