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I don't get the Drogba comparisons, Drogba was about a million miles more mobile than Lukaku.
Maybe it helps if you don't lumber him with a system in which he has to drop in between the centre backs to get a kick of the ball.
Yes this was pleasing, as was the way in which he stayed with the play after his poor freekick and put himself in the right place to score.
After the game we were discussing how when Benteke signed for Liverpool and Lukaku for Everton a parallel was drawn between them (Belgian, big target men, done well for lower PL clubs) and how they'd do. It's telling that on the weekend in which Lukaku moves into the box to score a goal off his own poor set piece MotD shows Benteke's wingers at Palace almost literally having to beg him on bended knee to make a positive movement to show for a pass.
Agreed.
I'm just feeling optimistic and looking 2/3 years down the line!
When pogba is truly matured, rashford and martial are tearing people up, we continue investing, Lukaku may end up being the bottleneck one day!
I love him. The type of no-nonsense striker who is there to provide goals, overpower the oppositions defenders and just bulldoze teams. Football needs more players like him, the obsession with strikers dropping back to perform playmakers role needs to stop!
Too many assumptions there, lets live the moment rather than worrying about your hypothetical scenarios.
Always makes me laugh when people say this because they see a striker miss one or two chances, happened with Zlatan last season too. It's like every other teams' strikers hit the target every time.
Out of interest, I popped on to Squawka and got the Shot Accuracy for every league match played this season by your list...
Real - Benzema - 33%
Barca - Suarez - 60%
Atleti - Griezman - 50%
Bayern - Lewandowski - 60%
Dortmund - Aubemayang - 42%
Juventus - Dybala - 71%
PSG - Cavani- 57%
City - Aguero - 53%
Chelsea - Morata - 63%
United - Lukaku - 65%
The grass is always greener on the other side.
You don't what you've got till it's gone.
You don't what you've got till it's gone.
It's worth pointing out Shot Accuracy isn't that useful on its own as a bloke passing it harmlessly to the keeper every time would have 100% SA.
However it's a good point, people watch all of United's games so see Lukaku's performance warts and all whereas highlights of other strikers mostly shows their goals/near misses, which skews perceptions.
Interestingly, we're the most clinical team in the league this season. Which is a massive change from last season, when we were pretty terrible at converting our chances. I can't find chance conversion rates for individual players but I'm sure big Rom is a big factor in these stats improving so much.
EDIT: He's missed 4 "big chances" so far this season. Kane and Aguero have missed 3 apiece.
And Lukaku is more clinical striker. Drogba cored more than 15 league goals only twice in 9 years at Chelsea. Scored 20 and 29 league goals in 2 seasons, apart from that his best goal scoring season is 12 league goals.
Lukaku has scored more than 15 league goals 4 times in 5 seasons and this was when he started as a teenager, not a proper developed player like Drogba.
Drogba scored 104 league goals for Chelsea in 254 games,
Lukaku scored 90 league goals in 191 games.
This isnt based off this season. Its based off what i've seen from Lukaku over the last 3 years. He is not a good finisher. He is not a natural finisher. he is too wasteful.
Also regarding your list, which of those strikers above would you confidently say Lukaku is superior to?
This is a good point. Hadn't thought of it that way
If I was asked to choose, I would take Lukaku over Benzema, Aubameyang, Higuain, Morata and Cavani. ESPECIALLY considering how we play.
Higuain is a giant choker and we'd never win anything important with him, Benzema's best quality is being a foil for a better player, and Cavani needs 70 chances to score 1. Auba is good but I don't consider him the better player at all he just has a more exciting game. Morata has potential but is not the better player by any stretch. Griezmann wouldn't even start up top over Lukaku if we bought him, he'd drift around behind him or wide right, and Dybala plays behind the striker.
Leaving Neymar, Aguero, Lewandowski and Suarez. Neymar would play LW for us not striker, and Suarez looks like hes beginning his decline. Aguero and Lewa are the definitely better forwards atm. I'd also say Kane is very slightly better than Lukaku.
Last season Kane, Aguero, Costa and Hazard all missed more "big chances" than Lukaku. It's been one of the most noticeable things about his development. He's been getting more and more clinical.
And both of them have had just as many horrible efforts. Lukaku can score them as proven. Throwing him under the bus just because of one game is knee jerk.
Hopefully his goal scoring record will be better anyway, found out the other day Drogba only scored something like 104 league goals.
That is a blatant lie because Aguero plays for City and hence must have an amazing ratio of 100%.
Surely Lukaku is already on his way to eclipsing that. The thing with Drogba though, is that he decided big big games. Many of his goals over his career consisted of vital league/cup deciders. Lukaku needs to show that kind of side to him now that he's at United.
Apart from 2 season where Drogba scored 20 and 29 league goals, his best goal scoring season is with 12 league goals.
Drogba's overrated in that people only remember his great performances and seasons but not his poorer ones. He was barely playing Ligue 1 football for a year at Lukaku's age, he scored just 10 and 12 goals respectively in his first two Premier League season before going off to 20 goals in 2006-07 but his next two seasons were also blatantly average in terms of return, before being amazing again in 2009-10.
The amount of shit in here after that miss 
Ah well, at least you lot are consistent, it was Zlatan getting it last year despite an outrageous scoring rate and it's Lukaku now.
Maybe you should take the hint? As a load of us keep telling you's, all strikers miss chances.
Ah well, at least you lot are consistent, it was Zlatan getting it last year despite an outrageous scoring rate and it's Lukaku now.
Maybe you should take the hint? As a load of us keep telling you's, all strikers miss chances.
Drogba was quick, but Lukaku is blitz when he gets going too. Maybe Drogba had better acceleration from a stand-still.
In general they're not much alike - Drogba was one of the best technically gifted targetmen the league has seen, who always stepped it up in big games, and ended up with quite an impressive assist tally. Lukaku, on the other hand, tends to avoid the build-up play, instead focusing on his strengths - playing on the shoulder, constantly looking to be fed through on goal.
I'm saying our better setplay specialists should take the set plays?
I think your reaction is a knee jerk
Edit: he has 90 goals in the prem, 1 of those from a free kick, simmer down.
I'm pleased we have him, he is class, just shouldn't be on freekick duties
I wouldn't say Drogba was overrated because his qualities as a striker were plain to see, but what I'd say is he was the ultimate big game player. He scored so many vital goals that the number of times he bailed Chelsea out of a predicament was unprecedented.
But yes, he did play many poor games.
Erm... Mata was on pen & FK duty @SirScholes
Who would've taken the free kick yesterday for you instead of Lukaku?
Let Martial, with those dead eyes he'd have the wall defending the wrong goal.
He was an incredible striker, I agree. I did not really say that his ability was overrated because it clearly wasn't, as you say he could have been relied on in big games like very few other forwards (Eto'o was another one) but he also often went missing against weaker teams and was not really a consistent goalscorer aside from his two best seasons at Chelsea.
Haha! I actually thought yesterday, who do we have? And without Pogba, Rashford and Mata the answer was no-one, Lukaku was the only choice.
Bold was unnecessary, young could of taken it, or martial could of had a pop, it wasn't off just yesterday against stoke at 1-1 with mata on the pitch lukaku took the freekick
Have you even watched how hard Lukaku has worked in the games so far this season? I can find a lot of things that Lukaku can improve on, but mobility isn't one of them. The guy has been running channels for 90 mins consistently.
Cool.
Bodes well that inspite of scoring a shitload of goals, we still have two players in big chances list. Obviously I'd like them to be more clinical but Kane has two goals from 32 shots in this season and people will act as if he buries every chance.
Critisism of his finishing when he has 6 goals in 6 games for us and 5 goals in 6 games for Belgium this year is just flat out weird.
Whilst i'm not too bothered, just for the sake of the debate, you haven't factored in chances needed, so scoring more goals doesn't mean more clinical. Also, you need to factor in goals overall, are there more or less goals scored in the premiership compared to when Drogba was playing
Lukaku played for West Brom and Everton, Drogba played for Chelsea. It's kind of obvious who would have had more chances isn't it? I don't think any stats site tracks all the data back to 2003 or 2004.
Regarding goals, it's easy to check but I'm assuming it remained more or less the same. What will be interesting is how many goals Chelsea scored and how many did West Brom and Everton scored.
Less. I read a piece yesterday about Mourinho's claims that PL goals came more easily/frequently earlier in Rooney's career. Turns out the opposite is true.
So you''re not bothered about knowing the numbers, just making claims.
What if he had missed 20 open goals, would it still be flat out weird to debate his finishing ?
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