A goal every two games is average now. Football is mad.
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Kane is the best striker in the world.
Salah has been on an incredible rune.
Aguero & Sterling are part of a record-breaking PL team.
It's really not comparable, and scoring in 1 every 2 games PLUS assisting in plenty of games is better than average.
Pogba has been extremely guilty of this. Lukaku puts himself in great positions in front of him, and yet Pogba either makes a flashy pass over his shoulder or takes it on himself. Martial and Rashford to some extent too. I just wish we'd play a bit more simple passes up top rather than trying to be clever with flick and overhit crosses.Fecking pisses me off too. Surely he wasn’t brought in to just bang headers in off crosses. Get some passes into his feet. The service is fecking shite.
It's fecking infuriating how often he has to physically point out the pass to the players around him. He should be making those runs and assuming the ball will get to him, without needing to point out the bleeding obvious to his team-mates. Even more so when he's shown himself quite capable of playing the sort of pass he almost never gets himself. Honestly, since his first league goal, has anyone slipped him through on goal in the same way since?!
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I've a feeling that Sanchez will be an absolute gold-mine for him.
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I've a feeling that Sanchez will be an absolute gold-mine for him.
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Sanchez and the boys getting older and more experienced. While it's frustrating at the moment, I think it's very exciting for the future.It's fecking infuriating how often he has to physically point out the pass to the players around him. He should be making those runs and assuming the ball will get to him, without needing to point out the bleeding obvious to his team-mates. Even more so when he's shown himself quite capable of playing the sort of pass he almost never gets himself. Honestly, since his first league goal, has anyone slipped him through on goal in the same way since?!
I've a feeling that Sanchez will be an absolute gold-mine for him.
It's fecking infuriating how often he has to physically point out the pass to the players around him. He should be making those runs and assuming the ball will get to him, without needing to point out the bleeding obvious to his team-mates. Even more so when he's shown himself quite capable of playing the sort of pass he almost never gets himself. Honestly, since his first league goal, has anyone slipped him through on goal in the same way since?!
I've a feeling that Sanchez will be an absolute gold-mine for him.
He's taken on himself to create the chances for other players which the players should be creating for Lukaku.
Yeah, the "yong and lernin" crew will continue to make rookie errors. Sanchez should be streets ahead in terms of his decision-making around the box. Can't wait to see him in action.
And vice versa. Lukaku's unselfish play, willingness to run the channels, create space and play in his teammates has been fantastic this season. A goal scoring attacker like Sanchez will benefit from this a lot more than a possession player like Mata.
I think Mkhitaryan played a through ball against Stoke to make it 2-1
I've been very happy with Lukaku this season overall. Not too concerned that he's not exactly scoring goals for fun, but you know he's capable of a sudden high surge of them and you'd not be surprised to be him challenging for the golden boot nearing the end of the season. As others pointed out though, the guy simply works his ass off. Never at any point have I thought he wasn't putting in 100%.
It's fecking infuriating how often he has to physically point out the pass to the players around him. He should be making those runs and assuming the ball will get to him, without needing to point out the bleeding obvious to his team-mates. Even more so when he's shown himself quite capable of playing the sort of pass he almost never gets himself. Honestly, since his first league goal, has anyone slipped him through on goal in the same way since?!
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I've a feeling that Sanchez will be an absolute gold-mine for him.
I can remember when this happened in the game and the diatribe I released at Rashford for not spotting one of the most obvious passes you'll ever see.
I've been having to defend Lukaku to the hilt recently to my mates and this is one of the reasons why. The guy has been running himself into the ground in recent matches and although, yes, there is the occasional loose touch, all in all his link up play has been great. Those 2 through balls against Leicester should have sealed the game! And he helped get the winner against Burnley in a game where our attack had really failed to get going.
He waits an entire game for an opening like that and the pass still doesn't come. The team really needs to take advantage of those situations more, some of the decision making around the opposition penalty area is diabolical.
Like you say, hopefully Sanchez will sort some of this out.
However, playing devil's advocate, there's a lot of talk from Arsenal fans and ABU pundits saying he's selfish and he'll just make things worse, particularly for Lukaku. Is there anyone worried there might be some truth in this?
His assists numbers speak for themself.
It is comparable. They play in the EPL against the same teams. You think Kane moans that Messi plays with Iniesta and Suarez? No striker worth his salt would use that as a crutch. All across the world their are strikers who score goals consistently at worse teams than United. The great Dario Hubner!
He needs to score more and so does Morata. 11 league goals in 23 starts is pretty average, and I would imagine Martial would have more if he started upfront as he is such a cool finisher. Also he needs to be more effective against teams inside the top 10. This is my lingering doubt over United elevating to a truly great team. We need an exceptional front man IMO. Lukaku looks like he'd "do a job" at the minute. Hopefully he can be more.
It's not comparable - Kane is the best player at Spurs, the team is geared to give him the service he requires as a priority first and has been building this for about 3 years now, we aren't.
Not only is our team still transitioning, but we keep playing crosses to Lukaku even though that's not his game, (our service to him is consistently poor tbh) and also he's part of a team puzzle, rather than being the main star.
I'm not saying it's a crutch - i'm just saying that calling a 1 in 2 return 'average' is incorrect.
Messi & Ronaldo have skewed the goals we expect individuals to return, however it's still a team game at the end of the day.
We are expecting Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Mata & to a certain extent Pogba to get 10+ goals and 10+ assists each across all comps, with Lukaku getting 25+ with 5+ assists. Spurs need Kane to get the majority of their goals because they've built their team around him.
Salah has broken everybody's expectation of him, but it remains to be seen whether he can keep up the same momentum when teams start adapting to his game.
Also across the world there are leagues which are absolutely dominated by 1 or 2 teams (Bayern for example) so applying the exact same statistics as a blanket comparison just won't work.
1 in 3 is closer to being average, 1 in 2 is expected of the better strikers, 1 in 1 is reserved for the outliers such as Messi, Ronaldo.
Didier Drogba 2004-07:
16 goals in 41 apps
16 goals in 41 apps
33 goals in 60 apps
Diego Milito 2009-10:
30 goals in 52 apps
Benzema 2010-2013:
26 goals in 48 apps
32 goals in 52 apps
20 goals in 50 apps
Diego Costa 2014-16:
21 goals in 37 apps
16 goals in 41 apps
'average strikers'
16 goals in 41 apps
16 goals in 41 apps
33 goals in 60 apps
Diego Milito 2009-10:
30 goals in 52 apps
Benzema 2010-2013:
26 goals in 48 apps
32 goals in 52 apps
20 goals in 50 apps
Diego Costa 2014-16:
21 goals in 37 apps
16 goals in 41 apps
'average strikers'
Does anyone have a gif/video of what Rashford does ? Missed it in games
All very annoying. Lukaku could easily have around 4 more goals this season if his teammates made correct decisions and we would have more points.
Lewandoski, Aubemeyang, Cavani, Aguero, Kane, Suarez are all on approx a goal a game. Messi and Ronaldo aren't the only ones.
Its always comparable. There is little weighting to being golden boot winner. Goals aren't weighted based on XYZ unless you are in a shit league. too many excuses. Lukaku plays for a better team than Kane. If Kane played for United he would have more than 11 league goals. I'd be happy to wager a large bet on that. The main striker receives the ball in goalscoring areas and must make the most of them.
I don't but IIRC he tried to take the man on and shift it on to his right foot for a shit but the trailing defender was able to get back and nick the ball away from him so I don't think we even got a shot off.
Like I said - i'm not suggesting Lukaku can't do better, or shouldn't aim to do better.
I'm simply saying that scoring 1 goal for every 1 match isn't average. Because if that were the case, then all of the strikers would be doing it, right? That's the literal definition of average something that's 'typical, common, or consistent'
Instead we've only identified less than 10 out of the hundreds across PL, La Liga, Ligue 1, Serie A, Bundesliga etc.
Yes and its bullshit narrative. He became more selfish because his head hasn't been right, but he's a guy whose very creative, good passer and loves linking up with like-minded players. You don't play at Barca or Arsenal if you're selfish. Yes he's a tad ball hoggy but when he's focused and determined, his decision making is usually solid and can definitely see him laying chances galore for Big Rom.
Don't forget he had a crazy run of matches where he didn't score. I think 8-9 consecutive matches. There have been times where has been completely ignored on that final ball which would have put him in a great position to score.
It's fecking infuriating how often he has to physically point out the pass to the players around him. He should be making those runs and assuming the ball will get to him, without needing to point out the bleeding obvious to his team-mates. Even more so when he's shown himself quite capable of playing the sort of pass he almost never gets himself. Honestly, since his first league goal, has anyone slipped him through on goal in the same way since?!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUBKdrSW4AAU-Gq.jpg
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I've a feeling that Sanchez will be an absolute gold-mine for him.
There is that from Rashford and then there is this from Pogba which even puts Rashford to shame.
Your posting style is really annoying. It makes it very difficult to respond to your posts. You're the only person to insert bolded comments into somebody else's post. There's a reason nobody else does this. If you want to respond to different elements within a quote, break the quote up. It's not difficult.
Anyway...
@vi1lain said this:
there are leagues which are absolutely dominated by 1 or 2 teams (Bayern for example)
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so is ours, what's your point? Aubameyang plays for Dortmund.
a) no our league isn't. This will be the third season in a row the league has been won by a different team. In the last 5 years, four different teams have won the PL. Couldn't be more different to Spain where the last time a team won the league that wasn't Barca or Madrid was 4 seasons ago (the only time this happened in the last 14 years) or Germany (Bayern won the league the last 5 years in a row) or France (recently minted PSG champions in 4 of the last 5 seasons) Not only do one or two teams dominate those leagues but they are miles ahead of the mid to lower table teams, financially, and routinely rack up cricket scores. So it stands to reason that their main men will be incredibly prolific.
That's her point.
There is that from Rashford and then there is this from Pogba which even puts Rashford to shame.
The most amazing thing there is that Pogba ends up taking a shot which gets blocked. Forget Lukaku, even slipping in Martial is a better decision than what Pogba ended up doing.
There is that from Rashford and then there is this from Pogba which even puts Rashford to shame.
It's 3v1 and he shoots from outside the box
Agreed on your last point.
I'd like for him to score a brace (or a hatrick) in some of the matches. I think he's only scored more than 1 goal in a match just once this season (westham home?)
Sadly, I don't know how to break up quotes so someone will need to fill me in. The point about league dominance is an interesting one and was being debated in another forum. Is the EPL more open than Spain really? Many suggest Leicester was a one off but currently, 4 different teams have won the EPL in 5 seasons. The Leicester freak season and its back to the same 3 of Chelsea, City and Man Utd, who have dominated since 2004. 13 of the 14 titles have been won by 3 clubs (dominance). Its all a bit similar as those are the 3 with the most money. In Spain, 3 different teams have won it in 4 years which is one winner difference. In the last 13 years, La Liga is dominated by Barca and Real. so essentially, the EPL has one additional team who shares dominance.
I guess. 1 in 3 is average. 1 in 2 is good. I just expect a striker playing for top team to get 1 in 2 as standard otherwise I would think he was pretty rubbish.
There is that from Rashford and then there is this from Pogba which even puts Rashford to shame.
This is one of the reasons Rom is scoring few goals, it's not like he's constantly wasting chances. I hope Sanchez helps him out.
Ya that Pogba selfishness cracked me up Saturday he had the donkey work done all he had to do was setup either Rashford or Lukaku, I’m thinking Lukaku will be thrilled Sanchez has signed , and it will work both ways with Lukaku’s power and Sanchez’s class on the ball I think they will work well.
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Kane takes more than twice as many shots on goal per game as Lukaku (according to Whoscored 5.8 vs 2.8). The question is whether Lukaku isn't getting in position to score or isn't getting the service. I think the issue is more the latter.
An interesting article:
https://www.theringer.com/2018/1/12...er-city-goal-scoring-expected-finishing-skill
If we offered him and 80 million for Kane would you be happy?
And secondly, would Spurs accept the offer?
And secondly, would Spurs accept the offer?
Maybe it's better for our fans to back our current striker rather than talking about swapping him after a season can't described as a poor one at all ?
Lukaku has some flaws but he's here to stay and develop.
its impossible to say. We have scored more goals than Spurs and have more players on 4 or more league assists. Strikers kind of need to create chances rather than just wait for a cross. little one twos, give and go's, drop of a shoulder, shoot from range, use both feet etc. Its kind of unfair even comparing Kane to Lukaku to be honest as Kane is one of the very best at his trade
It's a simple question, I'm fully behind him but who wouldn't want Harry Kane up front.
Except we won't get Harry Kane, too much funds in one player (even though he's great no doubt) in a position we're not having major problems with. These 80m you want to put with Lukaku to get Kane, can be better spent on a proper midfielder to partner Pogba and Matic and the team will look much better I reckon.
Next season we gonna have a monster team. 2 signings away in my opinion. We also have players we can offload.
Agreed.
It's only a question on a forum though, I didn't think it would be taken this seriously.
We need 1 or 2 signings for the main team, either a midfielder to partner Pogba or a number 10 depending on which formation Jose wants to play, then see if Shaw can secure his LB position or not, if not bet a main LB. We should be sorted in the main lineup with this, the rest should be for the bench.
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