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He will never fit Pep's criteria of strikers, let's be honest.

Sometimes the problem is in the player and not in the club or his teammates or anyone else. Lukaku has been excellent till end of Sep, after that he becomes average at best.

Pep prefers Jesus over Aguero as a striker. Pep doesnt actually want a striker to play up top. He wants a false striker to play there because he can help out in midfield :)
 
Some pretty disgraceful tweets from so called united fans doing the rounds. Many featuring the n word.

Oh what a different story but for Ederson’s face.
 
Pep prefers Jesus over Aguero as a striker. Pep doesnt actually want a striker to play up top. He wants a false striker to play there because he can help out in midfield :)

That's why he won't fit in Pep's criteria of strikers. Pep wasn't a favorite of classic number 9s since Barca days anyway and tend to fall out with them.
 
He was dreadful today. Dunno why people obsess over Morata; he's shown nothing to suggest he can be the leading man at a title winning team. Both have been underwhelming.
 
We agree to disagree. Would you have said that if he went to Chelsea....
Not sure the relevance of the Chelsea reference considering Conte likes a big physical number 9 ala Diego Costa and would play to someone like Lukakus strengths. Far removed from the intricacies of how Liverpool and City attack where movement, intelligence and technical ability are a necessity, three things where Lukaku can be mind numbingly poor.
 
I agree. Watch Jesus Goals for city, they are handed to him in front of goal by Silva/Sterling/Sane. There is no striker that converts all his chances. Our inability to produce more than one or two clear chances against the top 6 is the problem.
This is true. According to Squawka this is 'Chance created' figures for each team:
1: Arsenal 207
2: City 200
3: Liverpool 200
4: Spurs 186
5: Chelsea 170
6: Southampton 159
7: United 149
8: Newcastle 146

We are fortunate to have scored so many goals really.
 
He will never fit Pep's criteria of strikers, let's be honest.

Sometimes the problem is in the player and not in the club or his teammates or anyone else. Lukaku has been excellent till end of Sep, after that he becomes average at best.
I thought the last 3/4 games we saw a player who was contributing better to our team play - I really felt we were seeing him develop into the side

today though he seeme totally isolated in front of a functional midfield and Lingard who is a runner rather than a creator

he's not a top all round player thats for sure but Im still hoping to see some decent development
 
Not sure the relevance of the Chelsea reference considering Conte likes a big physical number 9 ala Diego Costa and would play to someone like Lukakus strengths. Far removed from the intricacies of how Liverpool and City attack where movement, intelligence and technical ability are a necessity, three things where Lukaku can be mind numbingly poor.

Don't agree. I think it's about what's behind him and given internationally he has quality, he's proved it for Belgium.
 
Its so easy yet you refuse to do it. You just spout nonsense like Morata is 'much superior in the air' when they are stats that track how good you are in the air.

Lukaku wins more aerial duels per game at the same percentage as Morata. It is a fact that Lukaku is better in the air than Morata.

Lukaku beats his man more times than Morata per game, at a far greater percentage. So it is a fact that Lukaku is better at holding up play than Morata.

Lukaku creates chances at the same rate as Morata, so it doesnt matter how much better a 'footballer' Morata is, he isnt more effective than Lukaku.

Morata is not a better player than Lukaku, the only strikers better than Lukaku are the world class strikers like Cavani, Lewandoski, Ronaldo.

Stats smats. Stats will show you whatever you want.

My eyes tell me that morata is a better all round footballer and a better header of the ball, attacking crosses
 
In the case of morata you can make a genuine argument of him needing time to adapt to a new league.

We knew what lukaku was about at Everton. I was surprised when he started well for us, his recent run is what I was expecting.
 
Newsflash people, Morata isnt any better than Lukaku. Morata's hold up play is FAR worse than Lukaku's, you would break a fuse if you watched Morata flop to the floor 10 times every game when he could hold up the ball instead.
Yeah, it's such an annoying narrative. I guess because certain people aren't exposed to 90 minutes of Morata they think he's some all round sensation, he was fecking shit against West Ham only just yesterday. I mean don't get me wrong, Lukaku is not in great form, thought he was garbage today but over the course of the season I haven't seen anything that suggests not signing Morata was a massive loss.
Lukaku has 13 goals in 24 games this season, Morata has 10 in 22. Morata gets his supply from Hazard and Fabregas, Lukaku basically from Pogba and he's missed half the season. I can think of 3/4 games this season where Morata has been completely shite and failed to hold up the ball and has been completely ineffective, Arsenal/West Ham/Spurs games, he was as bad as anything Lukaku has shown recently. He also has 1 goal in the 4 big games he's played in this season.
 
I thought the last 3/4 games we saw a player who was contributing better to our team play - I really felt we were seeing him develop into the side

today though he seeme totally isolated in front of a functional midfield and Lingard who is a runner rather than a creator

he's not a top all round player thats for sure but Im still hoping to see some decent development

He was good at Arsenal, but not really in any other game pre it tbh.

He's never going to be a world class playmaker number 9, but he should do better with his body. He was excellent with this during Arsenal but today completely the opposite. At least if he's not winning any duels today he should score the chance he gets in the game.

I don't like putting too much blame on players, but honestly I thought by December he would have got much more than 7 goals in the league. Him not even in the race of top goal scorers is very irritating to know.
 
Horrible game. You can talk about dedication and fighting spirit all day long but if a player is unable to control a football that's not enough
 
Stats smats. Stats will show you whatever you want.

My eyes tell me that morata is a better all round footballer and a better header of the ball, attacking crosses

I think you need to go to Specsavers. My eyes tell me there is not much difference between the two and the stats back me up.
 
Lots of frustration with him in the stands today. And it's hard not to find him frustrating.

Whatever you think of the service he is or isn't receiving, he's got to impose himself.

He's not playing for Everton anymore. He seems to get caught up in his own thoughts and it's detrimental to his game.
 
Admittedly service to him was poor. But for someone of his size, power and pace he doesn’t do enough to effect games
He could be a major harassment on defence, but just fades off.
This is true. According to Squawka this is 'Chance created' figures for each team:
1: Arsenal 207
2: City 200
3: Liverpool 200
4: Spurs 186
5: Chelsea 170
6: Southampton 159
7: United 149
8: Newcastle 146

We are fortunate to have scored so many goals really.
Short of Pogba we are lacking a midfield Maestro badly, I experience us as severely disjointed. We lack a ball distributor of world Class caliber.
 
I think you need to go to Specsavers. My eyes tell me there is not much difference between the two and the stats back me up.

If your eyes only see digits, maybe? But how can you not see a difference in how the two play? One is built like and plays like a two metre tall fridge-freezer that scores a lot, the other a much smaller, half-size freezer unit that scores a lot.
 
I think you need to go to Specsavers. My eyes tell me there is not much difference between the two and the stats back me up.

I’m not one for digging up stats but I bet I could find one that says morata has scored more headers in the last year. But you know what? It doesn’t mean anything because of different teams, different styles, different everything. Hence why I don’t rely on stats
 
I think you need to go to Specsavers. My eyes tell me there is not much difference between the two and the stats back me up.
So you're ripping into Morata. Yet defending Lukaku by saying there's not much difference between the two. So you're also ripping into Lukaku.
 
I’m not one for digging up stats but I bet I could find one that says morata has scored more headers in the last year. But you know what? It doesn’t mean anything because of different teams, different styles, different everything. Hence why I don’t rely on stats

Morata has just missed a sitter against Palace that costed his team 3 points. He's a good all round players but he hasn't set the world on fire either.

And anyway, we won't keep biting our nails all the time about Morata. Morata is dead for us, once and for all.
 
That's the beauty of opinions. I myself think he will never reach the level needed to be a striker at a top club and by next summer most fans will be yearning for a new striker.

They said the same at Chelsea about the best player now in the Prem.....how many were queuing up for him till he ended up in Germany. Not many were crying in their cornflakes when Pogs left for a mil. Weren't people sayin we wasted 90m on him last season? This lad is proven goal scorer over a number of years and look how old he is. He is already improving and sadly the unprecedented 14 game winning streak has clouded what has been a pretty good start to a season which Rom has significantly contributed to....
 
I’m not one for digging up stats but I bet I could find one that says morata has scored more headers in the last year. But you know what? It doesn’t mean anything because of different teams, different styles, different everything. Hence why I don’t rely on stats

Its obvious you have no clue, I used per game metrics and percentages specifically to take out the factor of different teams and styles. You think we still live in the 90s where stats were basic as feck.

So you're ripping into Morata. Yet defending Lukaku by saying there's not much difference between the two. So you're also ripping into Lukaku.

I'm not ripping into Morata, I'm refuting this silly idea that Morata is a better striker than Lukaku. Both strikers are a level below the best strikers in the world. I have said this ever since we were linked with them. Neither are at the top level like Aguero, Suarez, Ronaldo etc.
 
He could be a major harassment on defence, but just fades off.

Short of Pogba we are lacking a midfield Maestro badly, I experience us as severely disjointed. We lack a ball distributor of world Class caliber.
We have played 9 games with Pogba in the PL and 7 without him.. We have scored 24 in these 9 games and 12 in those 7 without him.. You could say that we almost played half without our most creative player. City missing KDB and Arsenal without Özil or Sanchez would do the same to them but that does nothing to the fact that Lukaku is not good enough to play for us..
 
We knew he was a donkey before we signed him, we were worried about his first touch and his dribbling and his passing and yet his first few games reminded us what the benefits of simply having a giant bulldozer up front can give you.

He's not a footballer, he's a tank. Technically he's absolutely shocking but he'll score goals because he's quick and powerful.
 
He had a horrible afternoon, was a nightmare game for him. He nearly got caught at Arsenal from a set piece, today he got caught a couple of times and was punished. We conceded two goals.

I'm trying to defend him but it's really difficult. That chance at the end needs to be taken, no excuses. It's decent goal keeping but he needs to score. His touch was poor, people talk about poor service but that's too theoretical for me, he had a couple of decent opportunities but lost the ball too easily. City's centre halves had a comfortable afternoon.

Ultimately though, if you sign a big, lumpy striker who scores goals and is difficult to handle, he needs to take his chances and be a threat. Today, neither occurred and it isn't for the first time.
 
We knew he was a donkey before we signed him, we were worried about his first touch and his dribbling and his passing and yet his first few games reminded us what the benefits of simply having a giant bulldozer up front can give you.

He's not a footballer, he's a tank. Technically he's absolutely shocking but he'll score goals because he's quick and powerful.

Agree but that's the problem. He's not scoring recently at all, missing strange chances as well, even with Pogba's return. We'll agreed to take him on with his faults because he'll finish the sitters we were missing last season, and he did that perfectly during the first 2 months. Last 2 months he looks like he lost his shooting boots, and then you'll have to look at his other attributes when he's not scoring. The result of this then is just dreadful.

He's not gonna improve his technical attributes, but he needs to score the sitters he gets ffs! In big games you won't get 10 chances to score, it's usually 1 or 2. If you're not clinical enough to finish them, you're dead.
 
Some vultures have been circling from the day he signed. Sadly because of the fee people expect the finished article but he isn't (by his own admission). That said over the last few weeks whilst he's not scored, I've elements to his build up play that's amounted in goals. Patience, and in a couple of years and we'll have a world class player that will be more than just a goal scorer. We lost today but let's not use Rom as the scapegoat as our issues are a lot deeper.....
Wishful thinking.
 
Drogba never achieved anything at Roms age and found his game later in his career. His goals/game ratio was really poor too....
You failed to recognize Drogba strength if you only look at goal ratio.

Drogba as far as I can remember, could make his mark in big game even for Maseille. He is big game player even in his less productive season. Even if he didn't score, his overallplay trouble the opposition enough to give his teammate a little extra space. Morata is tidier but sometimes is too nice for opposition defenders to tame. Lukaku has the raw strength but bad application despite much improved work rate since I first known about him. Lukaku currently is way weaker than he looks ( the strength he naturally gifted). He fall short comparing to Andy Cole, Saha who is lean and shorter were better at using their physicality, let alone Drogba who is known as physical beast.
 
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