[Ban]

I still think he needs a rest.
His body and his mind it seems are down.

And he need to think about his attitude.

 

[redNATION]

£75m. Just let that sink in...

When you look at Liverpool who spent around £12 to £35m for each of their attackers, it looks a silly amount of money to spend on a single player. For that money I would expect ludicrous ability and talent, like Pogba, and Lukaku just isn’t at that level. Icardi was my preference in the summer, but I can’t see what we’re going to do with Lukaku, given his age. He’s never going to develop that technical excellence we need to succeed at the top level.

 

[Litch]

I like Lukaku I'm a big fan of his, but he was diabolical today. There's really nothing more to say. He assisted both goals for City and missed a short from 2 yards out by hitting it directly at the keeper. Was coming too deep, was regularly making the wrong (and riskier) pass. Was just a terrible game from him all around.

He needs to improve a lot if he wants to be our main striker going forward.

Again, where did I say he wasn't. I'm just not the type of fan that base my opinion on a performance when we lose. He was poor but I thought he was really good against Arsenal. The stuff that people are saying about flat track bully is pure stupidity.

 

[gica_7]

It was a disaster. The obvious mistakes are there to see but not just them. He killed a couple of counter attacks for us with his poor touch, he misplaced so many passes. I can't remember a game that I was more frustrated with a United player than this one. It maes losing so much more unbearable when your 80 million pound striker aims the head of the keeper instead of a giant goal.

God, I hate football.

 

[breakout67]

Morata s by far a better footballer and despite being smaller, much superior in the air. Our team would be a lot more fluid in the same way that the movement was suddenly miles better when Saf chose Saha over Ruud

Its so easy yet you refuse to do it. You just spout nonsense like Morata is 'much superior in the air' when they are stats that track how good you are in the air.

Lukaku wins more aerial duels per game at the same percentage as Morata. It is a fact that Lukaku is better in the air than Morata.

Lukaku beats his man more times than Morata per game, at a far greater percentage. So it is a fact that Lukaku is better at holding up play than Morata.

Lukaku creates chances at the same rate as Morata, so it doesnt matter how much better a 'footballer' Morata is, he isnt more effective than Lukaku.

Morata is not a better player than Lukaku, the only strikers better than Lukaku are the world class strikers like Cavani, Lewandoski, Ronaldo.

 

[Chelskiing]

Looks like Tarzan, but plays like Jane?

That was always the thing that stood out to me, when he was here.

He got comparisons with Drogba when he was younger, but really they are completely different players. Drogba played as if he was twice as big as he actually was, Lukaku the opposite.

 

[lem8sh]

I can. He did that against Chelsea in the 2015 FA cup semi-final. He was basically unplayable that day.

But we will also see this side of him too. He did that in the Semi against United in the very next round.

Confused.

 

[Hed Zitin]

Where did I say he wasn't?

"Vultures" is a good one to start with.

 

[Litch]

Its so easy yet you refuse to do it. You just spout nonsense like Morata is 'much superior in the air' when they are stats that track how good you are in the air.

Lukaku wins more aerial duels per game at the same percentage as Morata. It is a fact that Lukaku is better in the air than Morata.

Lukaku beats his man more times than Morata per game, at a far greater percentage. So it is a fact that Lukaku is better at holding up play than Morata.

Lukaku creates chances at the same rate as Morata, so it doesnt matter how much better a 'footballer' Morata is, he isnt more effective than Lukaku.

Morata is not a better player than Lukaku, the only strikers better than Lukaku are the world class strikers like Cavani, Lewandoski, Ronaldo.

Spot on.

 

[Home&Away]

Remember when

Its so easy yet you refuse to do it. You just spout nonsense like Morata is 'much superior in the air' when they are stats that track how good you are in the air.

Lukaku wins more aerial duels per game at the same percentage as Morata. It is a fact that Lukaku is better in the air than Morata.

Lukaku beats his man more times than Morata per game, at a far greater percentage. So it is a fact that Lukaku is better at holding up play than Morata.

Lukaku creates chances at the same rate as Morata, so it doesnt matter how much better a 'footballer' Morata is, he isnt more effective than Lukaku.

Morata is not a better player than Lukaku, the only strikers better than Lukaku are the world class strikers like Cavani, Lewandoski, Ronaldo.

That's because it's our only tactic

 

[Chelskiing]

Its so easy yet you refuse to do it. You just spout nonsense like Morata is 'much superior in the air' when they are stats that track how good you are in the air.

Lukaku wins more aerial duels per game at the same percentage as Morata. It is a fact that Lukaku is better in the air than Morata.

Lukaku beats his man more times than Morata per game, at a far greater percentage. So it is a fact that Lukaku is better at holding up play than Morata.

Lukaku creates chances at the same rate as Morata, so it doesnt matter how much better a 'footballer' Morata is, he isnt more effective than Lukaku.

Morata is not a better player than Lukaku, the only strikers better than Lukaku are the world class strikers like Cavani, Lewandoski, Ronaldo.

Hmm I'm pretty sure Morata has the most headed goals this season, despite not being built like a brick outhouse. Also beating a player isn't the same thing as hold up play at all.

Don't get me wrong Morata has been bullied off the ball at times this season, but to my eyes is first touch, and awareness/passing to others on the pitch is way, way, better than Lukakus. Hey ho.

 

[Litch]

"Vultures" is a good one to start with.

Eh?

 

[Z2United]

That's a great point, but our attack is much more fluid with Lukaku than it was ever with Zlatan. Despite missing chances.

We are a much better team now than we were last season when all was new and nobody knew the plan. Last years zlatan would make this team a better one imo. Even a declining zlatan is 10x the footballer than lukaku. Im sure we will be able to see that pretty soon considering lukakus performances will not keep him on the pitch for much longer.

 

[Sentient Meat]

I always felt Rooney was the weak link in terms of technical ability the past three years and now after he finally goes, we've simply replaced him with a larger version. What I won't forgive is if he costs us resigning either Martial or Rashford. I hope Jose didn't back himself into a corner by saying he's undroppable because when he plays this poorly, he not only jeopardizes the game at hand but also the overall team morale, as exemplified by Martial's reaction the other day.
I'm sure it's all part of some philosophy, such as a manager must always have absolute confidence in his striker, so that the striker himself feels confident... but there are limits such as we saw when Benteke forced himself into taking the penalty for Palace. He needs to be accountable, as any other player, especially as he doesn't have any league or Champions League titles that would grant him such leniency.

 

[YouOnlyLiveTwice]

He just needs to get in back in form and start scoring again, then we will all be happy with him. Since october he has had a rough streak of few goals, i don't know what happened to him, but hopefully he can get back to scoring on a consistent basis.

Today was really bad, maybe because he was so damn isolated and he doesn't work well when we play him like that.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Newsflash people, Morata isnt any better than Lukaku. Morata's hold up play is FAR worse than Lukaku's, you would break a fuse if you watched Morata flop to the floor 10 times every game when he could hold up the ball instead.

Finally. I think that people judge morata only on game against us. He is nothing special this season for chelsea. He had his moments. Lukaku had it also. On hold up play. Morata is better in that but not that much. Lukaku lose ball and stay on the feet. Morata lose ball and falls down.

 

[maverickjesus]

Absolute shitshow from start to finish.

 

[K2K]

Confused.

Horror show from me.

It was the quarters. And the season I was referring to was the 2016 one


This game

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

I get that he didnt have much today, but I just want to see more. His movement off the ball, aerial duels, etc. Just not seeing it at the moment.

 

[Art]

Too many conclusions being drawn from one bad game. He'll score 20+ goals this season.

 

[Home&Away]

Lukakus heading and physical presence up top is overrated - he never headers anything in to play; just kind of bounces off his head to somewhere

 

[Litch]

Put Rom in that city or Liverpool team and see how many goals he'd score. He was poor today but there is no rhythm in our play. It's hard to find your game when everything to have to feed off is absolute crap.

 

[dichinero]

I get that he didnt have much today, but I just want to see more. His movement off the ball, aerial duels, etc. Just not seeing it at the moment.

Same

 

[Drainy]

Too many conclusions being drawn from one bad game. He'll score 20+ goals this season.

Depends on how many games Pogba plays or if we can strengthen in midfield in January. We are creating very little for him, and he seems to be lacking composure at the moment.

 

[Womp]

Put Rom in that city or Liverpool team and see how many goals he'd score. He was poor today but there are no rhythm in our play. It's hard to find your game when everything to have to feed off is absolute crap.

Don't think so. Both those teams rely on nimble movements, and he's a huge lad. His first touch is terrible which would make Klopp and Pep want to pull their hair out, not to add the fact that it takes him about a minute to get into his stride.

Like I said he's a good striker, but he has a lot of improving to do if he's the way forward for us.

 

[Z2United]

Put Rom in that city or Liverpool team and see how many goals he'd score. He was poor today but there is no rhythm in our play. It's hard to find your game when everything to have to feed off is absolute crap.

Not more than most other average pl strikers imo. Cause thats what he is, average.

 

[buckooo1978]

service to him was shit - it has been in almost all games Pogba hasn't played

stick him in that City side with intelligent and creative players behind him and you'll see a more productive player

 

[AXVnee7]

Put Rom in that city or Liverpool team and see how many goals he'd score. He was poor today but there is no rhythm in our play. It's hard to find your game when everything to have to feed off is absolute crap.

This is interesting. I'm not sure it's as simple a statement as that. They require their strikers to be generally more nimble and deft with the ball than Lukaku is. So if you put Lukaku in those teams then their overall play would suffer.

 

[arthurka]

Back when we won the treble we had FOUR strikers better than Lukaku.

We still have four strikers, three of them are better..

This is interesting. I'm not sure it's as simple a statement as that. They require their strikers to be generally more nimble and deft with the ball than Lukaku is. So if you put Lukaku in those teams then their overall play would suffer.

I agree neither Pep or Klopp use the hoof much and with a touch of an elephant he would be of little use.. What really surprises me is seeing him getting bullied by small CB like he has been bullied almost all season..

 

[prath92]

Remember when


That's because it's our only tactic

Do you actually think we were playing hoof ball vs arsenal, Watford, Brighton and Newcastle (our last 4 games)?

 

[James Peril]

What is it now, one goal in nine league games? Whilst playing every second, even I would do better than that.

I don’t mind him not scoring, but his overall contribution is not good enough. Link-up play is bad, passing is bad, runs are missing, technique is average.... but the worst thing, he doesn’t give his all! Too lazy, that run in the beginning of the second half was a strange thing to see, because I’ve never seen it before.

The situations today showed it clearly; he isn’t alert and he doesn’t focus during the games. We need to put those chances in the net if we only get one, and we need to clear easy set-pieces. Easy as that. He needs to run and fight more, then score sitters. One in nine is never going to cut it at Man United.

 

[Litch]

Don't think so. Both those teams rely on nimble movements, and he's a huge lad. His first touch is terrible which would make Klopp and Pep want to pull their hair out, not to add the fact that it takes him about a minute to get into his stride.

Like I said he's a good striker, but he has a lot of improving to do if he's the way forward for us.

The first touch thing is absolute rubbish. What sets up your shot as a goal scorer, your first touch. You don't score that many goals without one.

 

[lem8sh]

Put Rom in that city or Liverpool team and see how many goals he'd score. He was poor today but there is no rhythm in our play. It's hard to find your game when everything to have to feed off is absolute crap.

Klopp and Guardiola would rather rip out their eyes than play someone of Lukakus ilk. He'd struggle to make the bench at City never mind score.

 

[roykeane19]

The reason he goes missing in big games, is because opponents are better , you have less room and space and you normally would. Thats where your basic football skills like first touch and passing, and footballing brain come to the fore. All things this guy lacks, I think hes been too reliant on his size while growing up, instead of focusing on skills, dribbling and touch

 

[Litch]

service to him was shit - it has been in almost all games Pogba hasn't played

stick him in that City side with intelligent and creative players behind him and you'll see a more productive player

Agree. No Pogba, zero quality service.

 

[breakout67]

Spot on.

Morata isn't exactly lighting up the league and there is nothing to suggest that he is this special level of striker that will make us so much better. He is your run of the mill top striker like Lukaku, Aubamayang, Higuain, Lacazette etc.

We couldnt have got any better than Lukaku. We would be complaining about Lacazette and Morata's hold up play just the same. Higauin and Aubamayeng miss sitters regularly throughout the season.

Strikers that put in good performances 9/10 times are very rare. We're talking about Aguero, Suarez, Ronaldo level strikers.

 

[el3mel]

service to him was shit - it has been in almost all games Pogba hasn't played

stick him in that City side with intelligent and creative players behind him and you'll see a more productive player

He will never fit Pep's criteria of strikers, let's be honest.

Sometimes the problem is in the player and not in the club or his teammates or anyone else. Lukaku has been excellent till end of Sep, after that he becomes average at best.

 

[ash_86]

Put Rom in that city or Liverpool team and see how many goals he'd score. He was poor today but there is no rhythm in our play. It's hard to find your game when everything to have to feed off is absolute crap.

I agree. Watch Jesus Goals for city, they are handed to him in front of goal by Silva/Sterling/Sane. There is no striker that converts all his chances. Our inability to produce more than one or two clear chances against the top 6 is the problem.

 

[pocco]

We've got what we paid for. This lean spell is nothing new. He scores a lot of goals in relatively few games which means there are spells when he's not scoring at all. I honestly can't fathom why we signed him. Even i could see the huge problems with his game before we signed him and I'm no expert.

 

[Litch]

Klopp and Guardiola would rather rip out their eyes than play someone of Lukakus ilk. He'd struggle to make the bench at City never mind score.

We agree to disagree. Would you have said that if he went to Chelsea....