I came into this thread to read about Van Persie. What is the point, seriously 
Robin van Persie
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Most likely that is what they wanted, they may not have fancied moving away from their roots to some out of town mansion where they would know no one. Some people are content with what they have.
Definitely, they certainly happen, just not too often. There were a few players who went last season to absurd clubs offering a massive decline in the quality of football, that was annoying. It's not about players on their way out of the game either, which I can actually understand as they are looking for that big final payout that they wouldn't get anywhere else and probably get more playing time, Gyan and his 6 million loan move at 26 is something I don't agree with.
He's had a successful career, and now he's lining the nest. So what? Fair play to him.
Is he overpaid, fecking right he is. Most footballers are. Is he wrong to accept the vast sums on offer to move clubs? No chance.
Don't forget, his club also accepted a substantial offer to sell him, i doubt either party is disappointed in that particular transfer.
If stupid clubs are willing to play footballers stupid sums to play for them then they are just right to take the money that's on offer. Unless it's a United player, of course. Then he's a traitorous cnut.
I don't see what's wow about it.
That is irrelevant, no footballer is anywhere near having the wealth of Abramovich.
It is irresponsible to spend £5m a year if you are earning 5m a year.
For the rant.
Calm down.
The £5m vs £10m tangent was about someone making the point that, in terms of their day to day lifestyle, the difference is relatively insignificant. This is, obviously, true. Which is why I said that - investments aside - footballers just won't spend that kind of money over the course of a year. Unless they completely lost their mind anyway.
For all your bollocking on about Roman's yachts and lottery louts tell me, do you honestly think that any PL footballer would spunk more than £5m each year, without any investments to show for it at the end of the year? Like feck they would. The whole debate about long-term investments and preparing for a life without football is not what was being discussed at that point, simply the realistic impact such a pay-rise would have on their quality of life i.e. little or none
Anyway, it's a pointless discussion. As I said, footballers will continue to try to earn as much as possible. Expecting them to do any different - just because they might not need that much money - is hopelessly optimistic.
I don't think you'd find too many who'd say footballers aren't earning too much because the evidence says that "sugar daddies" have screwed the economics of the football market.
However, what I do argue is Arsenal and its philosophy. I would say that Arsenal never grew out of its "I won't pay you any reasonable hike in wages come what may" philosophy has hurt them. We were pretty much in the same boat as them when the big spenders came around but instead we worked hard to retain our best players, kept increasing our revenue which was also helped by us winning titles due to retained players. Arsenal, on the other hand, let their top players leave which impacted them directly on the pitch. To cover up for that, they had to further limit their hikes in salary and that gap from them and what City offer has grown so large that certain top players can't refuse. It makes you appreciate what SAF has done to keep this club together.
You've only really done it with Rooney. We would have done it with Fabregas if it would have made a difference. Aside from that you'd done your rebuild by 2006 just as we were starting to rebuild, you're pretty much in the same boat as us right now vis a vis City and Chelsea.
This is what you said though Pogue, you said it couldn't be done.
My first point said that a footballer earning £5million might want to sepnd £5million a year, and still have some for the coffee jar, so earning £10million would be handy. I don't see the problem there. A footballer earning a certain amount of money and having a certain lifestyle is just as likely to want to improve his standard of living is anyone else. Wealth is subjective. A rich footballer might be rich to us, but as you said, he hasn't got close to the money of Abramovich. Should he not aspire to be richer or just settle with what he has? Should businessmen do the same?
That's cute.
I came into this thread to read about Van Persie. What is the point, seriously
Well if you read the current conversation you'd see that it is all about Van Persie, so I guess that's the point, seriously.
Yes. But then again, we'll probably have more players on 100K a week than you'll.
What I'm trying to say is that, instead of being a bit more pragmatic about it, Arsenal have let the gap grow too big that the allure of playing for an amazing club doesn't cover up for the increase in wages. I think we've shown that a balance between both can be struck where-in you can show you're still not going to give City type wages but still have enough in you to compete. I really thought Arsenal would've catapulted after their increase gate revenues from Ashburton. Though I do take on board your argument that your rebuilding happened post 2006. But its not like we've not had to add players to our squad and retain them.
Obviously, I'd rather be financially prudent than pay. So, if there was really no money at all, then I'd rather be a mid table club than go all out spending.
There are plenty of high earners, footballers and businessmen alike, who hare happy with what they have got pay-wise, and what drives are various challenges and the strive for improvement.
And more money.
I've no issue with you mate just wonder why you are on a downer so much
Van Persie?? Are you in here?
They're always reluctant to join City at first. He just needs an 'extra 90k pw reluctance-breaker'
FFS another article thats a work of pure fiction.
His reluctance to join city puts the "deal" on hold! What feckin "deal"?
If you believe the writer RVP is reluctant to join city.
Then it says city are last on his list.The player is adamant he doesn't want to join city.
Did this have breakfast with RVP his agent and the arsenal board?
feck off.
How do you know it's fiction? Journalists have contacts and there'd be very little surprise that RVP and his agent want it let known that he'd rather not join City, tempting other clubs to come in/up their offer. Unless you're actually expecting him to reveal the name of his contacts, which for obvious reasons can't be done.
Going to be a last day of the window job.
He's obviously worried by City's direction with them signing no new players.
Possibly. They have a squad good enough to win the PL but they have a long way to go in Europe.
Signing RVP would probably help them in europe...
I think that there will be a good few going through on the last day. The market is depressed, buying clubs want better deals whilst the selling clubs want to attain recent market values, it is causing an impasse.
If i was him, i would be more concerned about getting in front of the other 4 or 5 strikers City already have. Tevez, Dzeko, Balotelli, Aguero. They will all expect to play.
Opportunities to play regular first team football would surely be as much of a consideration as a few extra quid. He will have far less serious competition at OT than he would at City in my view. We should have won it last year, and with Vidic back and Kagawa coming in, i can't see it being too difficult for RVP to imagine Utd as potential EPL winners this season.
We surely can't be any worse in the CL than we were last year either.
Wouldn't do our chances any harm either tbf Ekeke.
If i was him, i would be more concerned about getting in front of the other 4 or 5 strikers City already have. Tevez, Dzeko, Balotelli, Aguero. They will all expect to play.
Opportunities to play regular first team football would surely be as much of a consideration as a few extra quid. He will have far less serious competition at OT than he would at City in my view. We should have won it last year, and with Vidic back and Kagawa coming in, i can't see it being too difficult for RVP to imagine Utd as potential EPL winners this season.
We surely can't be any worse in the CL than we were last year either.
I think him going there may largely depend on what happens with Tevez. If he goes, then City can play a 4-2-3-1 with Aguero in behind Van Persie, and RVP will have a relatively safe spot in the team.
If Tevez stays though, which is looking more and more likely by the day, then he'll struggle to get in as the Aguero/Tevez partnership was brewing nicely towards the end of last season. It would be sad to see him go there and sit on the bench for football. I'm not fickle enough to believe that a person like him didn't care about money, but I didn't have him down as one of those players who were so obsessed by it that they'd give up regular football when they can get into most teams in the world.
Tevez will stat but I wouldn't like to be dependant on him if I were in Mancini's boots. However with Aguero, Balotelli and Dzeko still at the club there is hardly any need for a new forward which is why I don't think they'll go for van Persie. For emergency options they still have Adebayor and Santa Cruz, although one of them will likely leave.
At the same time you have to remember his marketability comes into it. The more he plays and performs the more his brand is worth.
Robin van Persie.
I reckon he's coming to United...
I think he is entitled to a good contract, and i agree with you that there are surely other considerations apart from money. I hope so anyway, because that gives us a better chance of landing him.
I like RVP, very talented and would improve our options and goalscoring potential, especially when playing with a lone striker. Welbeck is good, but not as good as RVP in the lone striker role, and that's why i want him here. I always think we are dangerous when we have 4 good strikers with differing qualities. RVP's attributes would certainly add to and compliment what we already have.
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