Fair enough, but I think your opinion is naive.
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Fair enough, but I think your opinion is naive.
You were in a way, if you can justify a players' need to have desire of more money.
But your argument does hold weight that if the option is available, so why shouldn't a player go for it. And i agree he is not a cnut for that.
However i do wish there comes some kind of threshold to save clubs getting manipulated by fans & players and eventually this inflation of wages decrease.
After all we want our clubs to prosper, not certain players.
Bo threshold needed, just responsible people in charge of the clubs. I.e leaders who don't spend more money than the club can.
It's a circle. You may need to spend beyond your means these days to remain competitive because of City, Chelsea and PSG.
Spending beyond your means (over a number of years) will ruin the ckub. Clubs need to accept that they can't compete financially with sugar daddy clubs.
Exactly.
And the gap between an Arsenal and a better wage offer has grown to an extent that you can't blame the player for wanting that money. If a player jumped for 10K a week more, maybe not a smart choice. But 75-100K a week? Noone can ignore a chance to increase their wages by 80-100%
... And hope that FFP fulfils it's allegedly intended purpose.
Does it really make much difference if you earn £5M or £10M a year? As Wenger said at the end of that day you can only sleep in one bed.
Yes, of course it makes a difference.
It shouldn't.
Although it's becoming increasingly obvious that this latest generation of footballers are unbelievably shallow wankers who seem to be indulging in one-upmanship when it comes to the size of their pay cheque.
Why doesn't Wenger take a 50% pay-cut then in order to finance the renewal of RVP's contact? Afterall, does it really make much difference if he earns £6m or £3m a year? In his own words; at the end of the day you can only sleep in one bed.
Not true. Speaking for myself, I could easily double my salary elsewhere, but the set-up I have no both in terms of freedom at work and balance between work and family life is perfect for me.
In reality, that will also mean admitting they can't compete on the pitch with sugar daddy clubs.
Fergie's achievement in seeing off Chelsea really is extraordinary. He can't keep it up forever, though, and it was reliant on the type of loyalty shown by Giggs and Scholes that you're unlikely to see in younger players.
read the post properly.
It's still a stupid post, whether read properly or otherwise. If RVP leaves that means over the last 2 years Fabregas, Nasri and RVP will have left Arsenal. Were those not your best players? In two of the seasons you mentioned there, one of those three players were your player of the year for that year.
The more you earn, the less of a difference and impact on your lifestyle it has.
He's been sleeping in more than one bed.
Worth keeping in mind many footballers do a lot for charity, some more publicly than others. A lot of them want to earn as much as possible so they can give back to their families as well. Unfair to assume they're all shallow wankers who blow the cash away on cars and strippers.
Yes, but there would still be a difference between earning either 5 million or 10 million. It might make less of a difference, but it still does. I'm not debating the level of impact it would have on your life, but pointing out it still would have an impact, obviously.
Not necessarily, but it makes it much harder to compete.
And if at the end of the day, that is the case, the clubs should just accept it, and make the most of the resources available for them.
I rather United is still around in 100 years time, than spend more money on players and wages than we can afford in order for short term success and ruin itself in the progress.
What are you doing in the transfer forum with an attitude like that? Don't you know this is a place where we all dream of seeing United blow the beans on £40million, £250,000 a week Brazilian superwonderboys.
Get out.
Not necessarily in material standard of living. If someone earns £5M and spends £500k, an increase to £10M won't make any difference. They'll still want the bigger numbers in their bank statement though.
Stop, stop. I'll break into tears if you continue. The thought of all that saintliness - the dear, good, kind boys.
What if they earn £5million and spend £5million, but wouldn't mind spending more, or maintaining their current standard of living whilst also putting some money aside for a rainy day. Maybe in a coffee jar in the kitchen cupboard.
Spend £5million in a year? How is that even possible?
They can invest as much money as they want but in terms of day to day expenditure, I doubt anyone could spunk that much money in a year. That's almost £14000/day. Every day. Think about it.
I've thought previously that if i were to win the lottery and win a million quid i'm not sure i'd be overly happy about it, because it isn't enough to impact as many peoples lives as I'd want it to. I'd want my family and friends to be comfortable, were I to have a lottery win, not just buy them a drink or pay for a holiday for them. Footballers may well be seen as amassing vast sums of money, but we've no idea what they're doing with it. Many footballers come from underprivileged backgrounds, and football is their way out of poverty. Why shouldn't they want to amass as much wealth as they can when they can, especially if they are using it to make life more comofrtable for their families and friends who grew up in similar circumstances, and may not have had the talent to find a way out. It isn't always just about them as an individual.
If a footballer spends 5m a year, someone should take that money away from said footballer.
That's about 15k a day, if my maths not completely fecked.
You think nobody spends £5million a year?
Ask this guy if it's possible to spend such vast sums of money so quickly.
You think nobody spends £5million a year?
Ask this guy if it's possible to spend such vast sums of money so quickly.
Can't, I don't know him.
But a responsible person does not.
And if you are not responsible, you should let someone who is manage that kind of money.
His name is on the cheque.
Is that a serious question?
Who is talking about day to day expenditure though? I'm sure they have both eyes on the immediate future...When they can't earn anywhere near that amount of money.
Its their money, they can spend whatever way they want.
So you already got a big house, cars, holidays, money in the bank etc etc. It doesn't make much difference unless you want to own a yacht or buy a £100M picture
The cheque is for less than 10m quid. Can't be certain but I'm fairly sure it took him more than 2 years to end up broke.
Anyway, it's a silly comparison. A big chunk of a windfall like that will be spent on stuff like a new house that footballers won't spend every single year of their contract.
Anyway, it's a silly comparison. A big chunk of a windfall like that will be spent on stuff like a new house that footballers won't spend every single year of their contract.
So now we are talking about day to day expenditure and responsible spending, on top of the levels of difference it might make? Stop adding in things that weren't even being discussed about. The original point was simply, there is no difference between earning 5 or 10 million, when obviously there is.
Yes, but you'll consider it. Atleast for a while. If Arsenal were winning trophies and achieving milestones instead of restarting their progress every year, RVP might be tempted to stay at a lower wage.
Any top notch footballer wants to be in a winning team, just like you enjoy the work life balance. Arsenal can't provide that nor the money.
Ronaldo spends £8000 on clothes alone, per month. That's almost £100,000 a year, on fecking clothes.
You've answered yourself. How about a nice 10 mn pound holiday villa in Greece. Or a small plane to reach there.
Opportunities are endless to spend. Its silly to think otherwise.
Well I don't think Man Utd are nailed on to win anything nor are City (Fabregas won nothing significant with Barca). In a sporting sense I think it would give a player like RvP more satisfaction to win the league with Arsenal than City.
And what, you think their wants and desires stop at 5 million or a certain level of luxury?
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