Are you sure you've actually met any City fans? I think you might have actually been going to Coventry all these years...
lol there are a few knocking about here and there.
Robin van Persie
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lol there are a few knocking about here and there.
I was referring to a whole stadium of spastics doing the fecking poznan.
Is there really any need to speak like that? It does not get your point across any better. In fact I have no idea what your talking about.
You're. Sorry.
No need to be sorry, your right :-)
this thread has taken some strange turns so far.
My personal opinion based on balls all is that Arsenal are just posturing and trying to screw more pennies out of City.
Might not be 100% of your fans in the stadium, but its the loudest I've ever heard you
With Owen and berba's wages gone we could probably give bigger wages but we Wont stump up transfer fee. City will and he'll go there.
Last time I checked Berbatov is still here and wasn't Owen on pay-as-you-play contract or something like that?
A tit-head ia a pig, newton, how can you not know that?
Owen was on 50k but boosted by appearance money I believe
50k? No chance.
Why? Just a matter of time.
We could pay him as much as Rooney without threatening our wage structure - no reason not to - he's at least as good. But we'd probably hesitate to offer more. We wouldn't want Rooney's agent storming into Gill's office demanding parity with RVP.
I don't see any reason why a £20M transfer fee should be beyond our scope. So, if City won't offer the big bucks, we're in good shape. If we truly are his first preference, there's no major obstacle.
I don't see any reason why a £20M transfer fee should be beyond our scope. So, if City won't offer the big bucks, we're in good shape. If we truly are his first preference, there's no major obstacle.
Rooney gets paid that much because the club value him as more than a footballer.
He is the face that gets plastered on most ads. We couldnt afford to let him go after losing Ronaldo.
No way are we paying Van Persie over 200k, or even close to it. No fecking chance.
He is the face that gets plastered on most ads. We couldnt afford to let him go after losing Ronaldo.
No way are we paying Van Persie over 200k, or even close to it. No fecking chance.
Would rather pay Nani the extra 20k a week than sign VP on 220k a week
Unless you're David Gill, you can't be certain of any of that.
I see no reason why we wouldn't pay Van Persie as much as Rooney, if we thought his football contribution was likely to be as valuable.
There's a notable age difference between Van Persie and Rooney too. Not sure we'd want someone on our books at 200k odd past the age of 30.
If we bought Robin for 20 million and he scored 20+ goals and we win the the league, it will be worth it. What we don't want is him stalling any ones progression.
Rooney
Van Persie
Hernandez
Welbeck
Could be amazing. But with Kiko and Berbatov, we have things to resolve before I think we'd consider it (making a bigger bid). His age isn't that big a deal. He's not carrying weight. He's not played 50+ games year in year out. Yes he's one year to go on his contract, but it's probably worth the risk. Certainly if he can stay fit.
Rooney
Van Persie
Hernandez
Welbeck
Could be amazing. But with Kiko and Berbatov, we have things to resolve before I think we'd consider it (making a bigger bid). His age isn't that big a deal. He's not carrying weight. He's not played 50+ games year in year out. Yes he's one year to go on his contract, but it's probably worth the risk. Certainly if he can stay fit.
I don't know what Rooney is earning, and I suspect the media are plucking figures out of the air as well. Signing players in their late twenties to 4 year contracts is not ideal, but they tend to be offered their present value, rather than what they might be worth if their game declines at the age of 32/33.
If he stays fit he is probably the best (or nearly) out and out striker in world football.
Yes, adding a player with questionable fitness to Manchester United. That would end well. 
Yes, adding a player with questionable fitness to Manchester United. That would end well.
Aye, it just seems really fecking stupid doesn't it.
sure it does but if we had him in the team last season, would we have lost the league on goal difference? I do think it would be a good statement by the club. Everyone assumed he would go city, in that respect it would be good to take him away from them.
What happened last season is irrelevant. Do we really want to add a historical sick note to the very top earners at our club.
Wayne Rooney gets big wages because he's a top player. He's not particularly marketable. Totally different situation to Ronaldo.
Van Persie would parobably command somewhere close to that. Especially if the fee is decent.
If Hernandez doesn't improve he'll be shipped. RVP is one of the best strikers in the world. I don't see why so many are opposed to this transfer. He's coming up for 29, so what? Berba will be gone, Macheda will be loaned. I'd take him right away. Our attack will be scary.
We ended up scoring 89 goals last season, just four shy of City, which rather hints it wasn't a true problem. We lost it on goal difference because we let an eight point lead slip away in 12 days or so.
I wouldn't really mind if we signed Van Persie. He's obviously a quality player who can add us something (although not what we need the most). I don't think it will happen anyway. City will crack and pay up.
Absolutely, but the point is he's a quality player. His injury record isn't the best, but as an option he's a better goalscorer then most. Even if he picked up an injury, we still have great options.
we scored 8 in one game and one or two other decent scorelines. There were too many games where we should have got 2/3 with the chances created but didn't. I don't know if we will get him either, but it wouldn't shock me the way things are going.
That may well be, but when you drop an eight point lead like that, it's not goal difference you should be looking at. We can also expect natural progress from Welbeck and Hernandez. I can see why Fergie wants him, because it's a chance to get a proven PL striker of top quality for a fee which wouldn't be huge. But I doubt he'd be going for a striker otherwise.
Rooney is is one of the most marketable players in the world!
Agreed, Hernandez won't improve that much, any more than Owen would have. He is fantastic at what he does which is finding space and scoring goals.
If anyone is seriously expecting Hernandez to vastly improve his link up play and first touch in deep areas, then im afraid they will be disappointed. He is a poacher, fox in the box, finisher, whatever you want to call it.
That will be his predominant role for us too i believe. He will be the option from the bench to nick us a goal, because frankly, his link up play isn't good enough to ever be a regular starter in our team.
He will be our new Solksjaer, coming off the bench to grab us a goal when needed. As long as he is happy with that, he will stay. If that isn't enough for him then he will probably leave. But imo, buying RVP will not impact whatsoever on Hernandez's future at Utd.
Rooney is the face of the club and commands the top wage. Van Persie would match him on the pitch but not off it, I think giving RVP parity with Rooney would be wrong.
Yep, Rooney is very marketable because he is so high profile and has been for so long. He is the top English player, and the most important player at the world's biggest club. Yes, we are still the world's biggest club, despite the debt, the Glazers etc.
When you hold such a high profile for so long, then you are always going to be extremely marketable. In fact the only way Rooney could be any more marketable is through plastic surgery to look like Becks!
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