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Can someone explain to me why Arsenal would be so against dealing with United? I have seen a few people say this yet I don't understand what the big deal would be.

It's a feeling motivated by reports of Wenger saying something along the lines of "Whatever happens, Nasri won't be sold to United" (obviously not a direct quote, you get the picture) last summer.

This seems to be believable if you think about it - Arsenal are arguably the second biggest team in the country (depending on how you rate Liverpool) behind United so you could understand that they might think it would hurt their image as a club to sell their best player and captain to United. Factor in that they are the most impressive club in Premier League history after United and that they still claim publicly to challenge for the title, then you can see logic in not wanting to sell to the club that rivalled them for success so strongly in the pre-sugar daddy era.

I might be reading too much into it, and the original quote could've been bollocks, but I can easily believe that a club of Arsenal's standing would be very reluctant to sell to United - particularly Wenger himself - for reasons of the club's image, lasting resentment from the rivalry a decade or so ago, incidents like Keane vs. Vieira, RVN vs. Keown, the invincable run being ended, even the 8-2 won't have helped.

Reasons could be given why they shouldn't sell to City either, but that hasn't stopped them before (is it 4 or 5 players now since 2008?)

Could be completely wrong of course; nobody seems to know the motivations of the Arsenal board and management anymore.
 
Can someone explain to me why Arsenal would be so against dealing with United? I have seen a few people say this yet I don't understand what the big deal would be.

My impression is that Wenger whatever what, always considers United as title favourites. (remember the quote: "It's already very difficult for United, let alone the others) So perhaps he don't want to strengthen what he considers as title favourites.
 
We do have a slightly historic rivalry with Arsenal which lasted just over ten years, but since the departures of Keane and Vieira, it seems that Wenger and SAF have a lot more mutual respect for each other. It's also worth mentioning that we're no longer in direct competition, neither are Man City, so really, they shouldn't have a problem dealing with either club. If anything, I imagine they'd be more reluctant to deal with City due to the Toure, Nasri, Adebayor and Clichy deals.
 
If there's one thing Arsenal don't have a shortage of, it's underperformance.
 
Well we've sold City £75M of underperformance.

Although I wouldn't say any of them have performed to the level they did at Arsenal, with Clichy perhaps being the exception, I wouldn't say that's the big factor in this, it's more the fact that you didn't replace them with £75m of quality reinforcements. Santos, Chamakh, Arteta and Koscielny are all inferior to the players you sold (although I don't know how much they all cost).
 
Although I wouldn't say any of them have performed to the level they did at Arsenal, with Clichy perhaps being the exception, I wouldn't say that's the big factor in this, it's more the fact that you didn't replace them with £75m of quality reinforcements. Santos, Chamakh, Arteta and Koscielny are all inferior to the players you sold (although I don't know how much they all cost).

Koscielny will be a very good player, and played much better this past season than Kolo played in the couple of years before we flogged him to City.

The others i agree with, althou Arteta played well last season.
 
Koscielny will be a very good player, and played much better this past season than Kolo played in the couple of years before we flogged him to City.

The others i agree with, althou Arteta played well last season.

Personally I felt that Toure was better than Koscielny has proved to be, although I do think that Koscielny, if he can build up a partnership with Vermaelen could go on to surpass Toure.
 
If there's one thing Arsenal don't have a shortage of, it's underperformance.
People who live in glass houses that contain £50M of 'talent' like Anderson and Berbatov shouldn't throw underperformance stones. Unless you're planning on making a assault on the premier eating contest or champions lounging prize.
 
People who live in glass houses that contain £50M of 'talent' like Anderson and Berbatov shouldn't throw underperformance stones. Unless you're planning on making a assault on the premier eating contest or champions lounging prize.

:lol: Ok Berbatov maybe maybe not and Anderson granted but they still contributed to the medals we have won. Your over performers have won what exactly?
 
Personally I felt that Toure was better than Koscielny has proved to be, although I do think that Koscielny, if he can build up a partnership with Vermaelen could go on to surpass Toure.

Wouldn't necessarily disagree, but the post malaria Toure wasn't.

Koscielny will be a real player if he keeps up his current level of improvement.
 
People who live in glass houses that contain £50M of 'talent' like Anderson and Berbatov shouldn't throw underperformance stones. Unless you're planning on making a assault on the premier eating contest or champions lounging prize.

With that logic nobody should ever talk about underperforming.

Yeah Barcelona are one of the best sides ever, look at how much they've won... But Ibrahimovic! that tells them.

Yet you're the one who brought underperformance up
 
Well we've sold City £75M of underperformance.

Quite true but the record books don't have a column showing profit and loss, it's trophies and nothing else. Top players want to win silverware and it is a poor reflection that your top players feel they cannot achieve that under Wenger and want out.

Why do you think RVP wants to move on?
 
£££££££££££

Well, we'll see, Pete. He might be true to his word...but then again who'd be surprised to read that he's ended-up at City on £225k per week? Oh, but 'it's not about the money', he'll say...
 
People who live in glass houses that contain £50M of 'talent' like Anderson and Berbatov shouldn't throw underperformance stones. Unless you're planning on making a assault on the premier eating contest or champions lounging prize.

5 league winners medals and a Champions League medal between those under performers. Next.
 
£££££££££££

Well if he joins City you will be right as they will be offering the highest wage.

It must be very depressing being a Gooner. You either win trophies in the Graham era playing dull football or win nothing whilst being entertained.

FWIW I think RVP has had is finest season and will not replicate it wherever he goes.
 
I've enjoyed both the George and Arsene years. No one except yourselves have been more successful over the last 20 years or so.
 
They didn't win them someone else did, they just happened to be around see May, Neville.P et al.
 
Going back a long way aren't you? Reyes cost us a net £3M, about the same as Obertan's fee by the way.

Obertan's nett fee? I don't think so. Or does nett only apply to your argument? Would you like a more recent example? How much was Arshavin?
 
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