Robin van Persie

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I think he's been phenomenal this season, but the Ronaldo/Henry talk is just nonsense.
 
Ridiculous goalscoring form really. He is the cutting edge of the Arsenal attack these days and clearly among the world's elite. They had better convince him of their intentions in the summer otherwise he could be off. It's easy to get frustrated if such efforts don't bring rewards.
 
I believe van Persie has shown this sort of form a few times earlier in his career, but was always broken up by injuries. I still remember 2 season ago when Rooney couldn't stop scoring that RVP's goal per game stat was similar or even slightly better and the same goes for a season when Ronaldo was scoring goals left and right... of course, he never finished those seasons scoring as many due to being a complete sick note.

What I'm saying is, it's a shame he's been injured so often, he could have been/become this good long ago.
 
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What you said. RVP has threatened to devastate previously on a few occassions, but each time he found himself on the sidelines thanks to some freak injury. It's no coincidence that when he was playing at his best during those periods it coincided with him stringing a decent run of games together.
 
RVP for united?

Say we made a cheeky bid for him come end of the season, do you think he will be tempted to sign for us? And how will he fit into our system? Will he improve our squad?
 
No chance - it'd take £50 odd million to buy him in the summer (and Arsenal wouldn't sell him to us) and probably £250,000 a week the year after on a 'free'.
 
Red Dreams said:
if they get into the CL he will stay. Even if he decides to leave he will not go to another prem side. Think he may only go to the continent.
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I reckon he'll go the way of Nasri - if City bid £50 odd million in the summer it would be stupid to turn if down, unless he re-signed.
 
Lynk said:
I think he's been phenomenal this season, but the Ronaldo/Henry talk is just nonsense.
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This. Below those two. Not to mention he needs to do it for much much longer. We saw what happened with torres.
 
John_Jensen said:
Pedantic for pointing out that a player has spent a large amount of his career playing, and playing well, in a position you claim he wouldn't be effective in? Have a word with yourself mate.

It was only 18 months ago that a large amount of people were questioning if he was up to playing as a number 9, and although he's since proven he's more than up to the task it's not the only position that he'd excell in.

Berkamp said just a few weeks ago:
“To be honest, I would still prefer to see Robin play a bit deeper behind the main striker so that he could pick his moments the way I used to.

"I think he could be even better in that role, but the way he’s playing now you can hardly blame the coach for putting him there.”

Klopp described his effectiveness:
“But Robin van Persie, wow, what a performance, what a player. He’s certainly one of the best in Europe”.

I’ve hardly ever seen a player who plays so deep in midfield and then is such a danger in the box.”

The point being that RVP is not just an outstanding centre forward, he's an outstanding footballer and is more that capable of excelling for Barca on the left if only they had the cash to buy him.
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I never said he wouldnt be effective playing left wing, only that it isn’t his best position and consequently Barcelona wouldn’t choose to sign him for the vacant left wing spot, but would rather sign more natural wingers like Neymar, Hazard or possibly Goetze. It’s not that contentious a statement in my opinion, it seems obvious they'd sign a winger to play on the wing.

If you asked a thousand fans where Van Persies best position is, not one would say left wing, so I’m not sure where you’re getting this assumption that he’d be able to not only play left wing now, but play it well enough to get into an incredible Barcelona side. To play on the left for Barca would effectively make him one of the best left wingers in the world. It’s just an unbelievable claim to make based on no recent evidence, he doesn’t even play there the odd time anymore. The fact he used to play there for Feyenoord means absolutely nothing, as he’s a completely different footballer and hasn’t played the position for years, footballers regularly change positions as they develop, so it isn’t proof of anything, yet you are holding it as irrefutable evidence that he’d play that position just as well as he plays striker.

As I said in my last post, Modric, Henry, Rooney, Iniesta are all examples of players who have played left wing for parts of their career, but not one of them is a left winger and all four of them played their best football in other positions. Its the same with Van Persie, he’s quite blatantly a striker. Claiming he’d be just as effective on the wing without any recent evidence is absurd, its based on nothing substantial and when you consider Van Persie’s style of play I think its obvious he’s best utilised up front when his first touch and finishing are best deployed.

As for those quotes, in what way do they support your argument for Van Persie on the left wing? They make no reference to it whatsoever. Bergkamp says he’d like to see him ‘behind the main striker’, how does that have anything to do with the left wing? Likewise, Klopp talks about his ability to drop off into midfield, which has nothing to do with playing on the left. I’m not getting their relevance at all.
 
izzydiggler said:
No chance - it'd take £50 odd million to buy him in the summer (and Arsenal wouldn't sell him to us) and probably £250,000 a week the year after on a 'free'.
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You've got to be joking, they'll get nothing like £50million.
 
He'll never come to us, partly due to some kind of token loyalty to Arsenal in not joining their league rivals, and partly because he'll want to move to Barca once they make their interest known.

Pity though, a partnership of him and Rooney would be devastating.
 
fatboy said:
He'll never come to us, partly due to some kind of token loyalty to Arsenal in not joining their league rivals, and partly because he'll want to move to Barca once they make their interest known.

Pity though, a partnership of him and Rooney would be devastating.
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It's been a few years since we were that.
 
Fair points theon. I was just thinking about this and although I'm sure barca and real would want him I don't think either would let him play as the focal point because of the players they already have there. So if he is to leave I reckon if we came in and said you could be our number 9, ( berba would def go in this situation) I think he'd be tempted. Chelsea can't be appealing to anyone. City could afford him but again with the attacking players they have his game time would be reduced and he'd likely have to play wide again.

So in terms of top teams I guess that leaves Bayern or milan. At Milan im sure he'd have to go wide again, I don't really know much about bayerns attacking options. But out of the top Teams at the moment I think we're likely the only one who would let him play in the same role he has now which gives us a chance. If all he wants is money then he's not coming here, but if wants to enjoy his football and get paid very well without the crazy amounts st other clubs then I think he'd seriously consider it and I'm sure given fergies affinity for strikers he has to be looking at him.
 
You just know he'd go back to being a crock as soon as we signed him.
 
fatboy said:
He'll never come to us, partly due to some kind of token loyalty to Arsenal in not joining their league rivals, and partly because he'll want to move to Barca once they make their interest known.

Pity though, a partnership of him and Rooney would be devastating.
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Not sure if Barca would be interested in him or if it would be a good move for him on purely personal terms on the pitch. Messi already has the central, false nine role sown up. As great a side as they are, they haven't managed to get the best out of either of the other two world class centre-forwards they've brought in recently in Villa and Ibrahimovic either. On the other hand, necessity and logic seldom play much of a role in the big Spanish clubs' transfer policies, and the player's head could easily be turned by the prospect of joining the best team of his generation.

Don't particularly want to see him at Utd either. Great player, but the money would be better spent elsewhere. We're well-stocked with strikers and I'm not convinced he's an ideal partner for Rooney.
 
Cheeky bid or not.Wenger would never sell him to us.Madrid or Barcelona are more likely.
 
Pat_Mustard said:
Do Arsenal really have that same level of antipathy towards us anymore? I'm sure selling abroad would be Wenger's preference, but having sold to Man City I don't see why he wouldn't sell to us.
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On the face of it the dislike between Saf and Wenger as become more mutual respect,but that doesn't change Wengers ambition to beat us to the title ,and to sell one of his best players to us won't sit well with Wenger,the club and the fans.
 
Arsenal don't really have too much say at this point as rvp could say he'll screw them over and leave on a free if they don't let him move to x club. Also just wondering but does anyone know if rvp could now buy himself out of his contract?
 
Big Papi said:
If we buy RVP, how would we afford Sneijder?
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There's a serious point here tho. Rvp isn't what we need, would be madness to splash out on him, as good as he is.

Also, this is one season where he has stayed free of injuries but I doubt he has put all that behind him. I'd rather now break the bank for another player who will spend half of every season out. And I fully expect that's what would happen.

I hope he stays put to be honest.
 
Drifter said:
On the face of it the dislike between Saf and Wenger as become more mutual respect,but that doesn't change Wengers ambition to beat us to the title ,and to sell one of his best players to us won't sit well with Wenger,the club and the fans.
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Agreed that Wenger and the fans wouldn't like selling one of their better players to us, but I'd have thought selling to the nouveau riche clubs would rankle even more, both within the club and with the fans.

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Don't disagree that his preference would be to sell to a foreign club though!

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
He refused to sell us Nasri. No way he'd sell us an even bigger player than Nasri.
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Like Ash_G I thought the stumbling block was with the player over wages rather than with Arsenal over the transfer fee?
 
Tbh even if he didn't want to sell to us this season there's no way he could not see city as an equal threat now. And as I said the power is ultimately with rvp who could say I want to go to x club and if you don't let me I'll see out my contract and leave for free. Not ideal but I'm sure wenger would rather have some money than none at all and have to have a player who might not give his best but is the highest earner still there.
 
I can bet my life on RVP staying at arsenal next season. People who are in any kind of hope of RVP coming here will end up disappointed.
 
TheBest said:
I can bet my life on RVP staying at arsenal next season. People who are in any kind of hope of RVP coming here will end up disappointed.
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Oh yh I don't expect him to come but I just hope he does, would be a great signing.
 
Pat_Mustard said:
Fair enough Chief. Very bitter on Arsenal's part. Having sold major players to Chelsea and City it seems incredibly churlish to refuse to sell to us.
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I don't think it's because it's United specifically, I think it's because of what it represents. He still sees them as title challengers and he doesn't want to sell to his main rival as it would be some sort of admittance of defeat for him.
 
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