Robin van Persie
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Carricks played in defence several times. Evans, Smalling, Jones being missing means he has to fill in. None of our midfielders are injured.Anyone back in the 'we don't need Van Persie' camp after that game? 
I don't think there's even been a signing whereby I've been so caught in two minds. I changed my mind about three times during that game alone.
I don't think there's even been a signing whereby I've been so caught in two minds. I changed my mind about three times during that game alone.
Carrick in defence and not midfield was one of the main reasons why we lost to Blackburn on New Year's day.
You do know RvP is an extraterrestrial.
We had no other players. He doesnt go in there for the laugh
Anyone back in the 'we don't need Van Persie' camp after that game?
I've always firmly been in the 'we don't need RVP' camp.
What is your point exactly?
He's suggesting Carrick would normally be in midfield, and that's the main reason Kagawa was playing in CM. I think
You're thinking of ALF.
HaL (9000 goals a season).
A game in which Carrick - a midfielder - plays in defence cannot be grounds for claiming that Kagawa is not part of the front four (or two). He may be played as part of a two in midfield but that will be only if we have regular central midfielders unavailable.
The main reason Carrick played CB was due to a lack of defensive cover right now, made sense to give him a run out there in a friendly.
Well, I was trying to work out what your point was. Kagawa in midfield today is not indicative of how we're going to line up, especially as Carrick was only really playing there by necessity. It's not a counter-argument against RVP as I'd welcome him, just Ferguson's thinking can't be pre-empted.
What'll actually happen to end this silly debate as that we'll play 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 whenever it suits us. We don't have to stick to one formation.
I've been there and back about 20 times now and I still haven't decided whether or not I like it. My thinking now is that this Rooney, Kagawa and Nani business is going to be...the business.... and that signing Van Persie would most likely mean shunting the former two all over the place.
....but it's Van Persie, though.
Worst part of Fergie not being at the game is that we won't get any new transfer gossip after the game
Worst part of Fergie not being at the game is that we won't get any new transfer gossip after the game
You'll have to knit another jumper for your cat while you wait.
Persie, Persie,
Give us your answer, do
Have some mercy
On the poor muppet crew...
You've done your bit for Arsenal
So mind your metatarsal
Say "Hello, North"
And "goodbye fourth"
And "Berbatov, clean my boots".
an you can feck off an' all.Any word on how Fergie's meeting with Wenger / RvP agent / RvP went?
This saga reminds me a lot of the summer we went for Berbatov and then tried to shoehorn him into the team. There's an argument that you can never have too much firepower and people will point to City's Dzeko, Balotelli, Tevez and Aguero and say we need that kind of depth to compete. Maybe? But after the Berbatov experience I have my doubts.
For me Kagawa should be in the hole and Rooney should play up top unless either is injured. But just like when we splashed out on Berba if we go big for Van Persie we have to play him. That means other players will have to be juggled to make it work and whether or not that causes the side as a whole to function better is something I'm not sold on as yet.
For me Kagawa should be in the hole and Rooney should play up top unless either is injured. But just like when we splashed out on Berba if we go big for Van Persie we have to play him. That means other players will have to be juggled to make it work and whether or not that causes the side as a whole to function better is something I'm not sold on as yet.
You missed your calling as a writer of exceptionally gay West End musicals.
Make no mistake, signing RVP would be a big statement of intent. Truthfully though, muppet aside, I won't be fussed if we didn't get him.
I wouldn't mind seeing:
----------De Gea----------
Rafael---Rio----Vidic---Evra
------Carrick---Cleverley---
Valencia---Kagawa-----Nani
-----------Rooney---------
I wouldn't mind seeing:
----------De Gea----------
Rafael---Rio----Vidic---Evra
------Carrick---Cleverley---
Valencia---Kagawa-----Nani
-----------Rooney---------
MUFCgal said:
Personally, I've placed all my muppety desires on this signing. If we don't get him, I will jump into a skip, and so keep my hopes and dreams company.
Personally, I've placed all my muppety desires on this signing. If we don't get him, I will jump into a skip, and so keep my hopes and dreams company.
If we get him, then good. I'll support him, just the same with anybody who joins, but I don't think we're desperate for him.
I want to see Kagawa played in the position he should - just behind the striker.
No offence but I bet you see dead people.
Very perceptive of you.......I do, actually ......though it would be wrong of me to disclose what I know......well, it could be upsetting for some people.......
How about 'The Voice of Bonkers Optimism' instead?
No, I think in time you'll realise The Voice of Reason is more apposite
Gigo
Won't be fussed not getting the player of the year and indeed one of the world's best strikers. Bizarre.
The way I see it, to compete with City's millions and force now we have to slightly abandon our current principles of investing for the future.
RVP would be a phenomenal statement of intent and an incredible investment. I'm beyond caring about resale value and wages when we're spunking so much away in debt repayments and IPO selloffs that barely benefit the club.
Tonight, for me, showed that we don't need him, and just confirmed this as a luxury signing if it happens. I'd much prefer to see:
with everyone playing in their proper position than trying to shoehorn Van Persie in, while ultimately making someone play out of position. I know, I know, the season is long and there are plenty games, but I honestly would prefer if we didnt get him. Obviously, if we do get him I'll support him 100% and all, but I reckon the money could be better spent elsewhere.
Valencia-Carrick-Cleverley-Nani
Kagawa
Rooney
Kagawa
Rooney
with everyone playing in their proper position than trying to shoehorn Van Persie in, while ultimately making someone play out of position. I know, I know, the season is long and there are plenty games, but I honestly would prefer if we didnt get him. Obviously, if we do get him I'll support him 100% and all, but I reckon the money could be better spent elsewhere.
gigo :d
Hardly a luxury signing you cheese-paring bastards - you've only bid £15M. In the immortal words of Arsene - feck right off.
It's a squad game though, one injury to one of our best players and things could be looking different. I thought we looked much better without Hernandez and Young today.
I'm sick of all these freakin transfer sagas, just bid 22 million to get the player instead of faffing about just to save a few million. And then Gill rubs it in our face by saying there is funds well put up or shut up Gill
Peter
We are pulling Fergie's wire
No fecking chance RVP will go to Salford (why would you?...........no decent restaurants in that postcode, unless you like curry sauce with your fat fried chips and don't tell me Cheshire is better.....though Man Zen in Knutsford is good, but who wants Chinese cuisine every night?)
He's not going.........get used to it?
I'm sick of all these freakin transfer sagas, just bid 22 million to get the player instead of faffing about just to save a few million. And then Gill rubs it in our face by saying there is funds well put up or shut up Gill
And what bonus did Gill get on the IPO?
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