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2014-15 Performances

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5.4 Season Average Rating
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29
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10
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3
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RDCR07 said:
Christ! If you think Robin fecking Van Persie doesn't have the vision or the link up play then you haven't watched him enough. If you think he is not an intelligent player, then you have gone mad. Here is a video that shows a snippet of what he is. He is so much more than just a #9, than just a goal scorer. He gets involved in the build up and often drops deep to help the team out. In fact he performs that role much better than Falcao does. I posted a video a in RVP's other thread (maybe last years?) while back that showed just what he does for the team. I can't find it. Maybe @Damien can help me find it.

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fecking hell, that to me is absolute footballing porn :drool::drool:

It would be a travesty if this man is done. I honestly don't think there is a striker in the world that I prefer to watch then this guy on form. Aesthetically speaking, he's just a beautiful beautiful footballer.
 
Sam said:
fecking hell, that to me is absolute footballing porn :drool::drool:

It would be a travesty if this man is done. I honestly don't think there is a striker in the world that I prefer to watch then this guy on form. Aesthetically speaking, he's just a beautiful beautiful footballer.
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I agree. Unfortunately I think he might be done :(. Or declining rapidly. Hope I am wrong though and it's just fitness.
 
Sam said:
fecking hell, that to me is absolute footballing porn :drool::drool:

It would be a travesty if this man is done. I honestly don't think there is a striker in the world that I prefer to watch then this guy on form. Aesthetically speaking, he's just a beautiful beautiful footballer.
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Phrasing :p
 
Too early to say much with RvP, too much quality to be written off, once we get going hopefully he will as well.
 
He was pretty poor yesterday.

Just doesn't seem as fluid as he was. Loses most battles with his back to goal as well.
 
FromTheBench said:
He was pretty poor yesterday.

Just doesn't seem as fluid as he was. Loses most battles with his back to goal as well.
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Well over the top now and should seek new challanges in China or the USA. Can't see him coming back now, also considering his age and his ability to get injuries form about anything that exists... Poor lad, should have ended it on top...
 
quackattack said:
Well over the top now and should seek new challanges in China or the USA. Can't see him coming back now, also considering his age and his ability to get injuries form about anything that exists... Poor lad, should have ended it on top...
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I hope you are being sarcastic.
 
When RvP signed, everyone was quick to say Rooney is done at this club and shouldn't be playing etc. Now we sign Falcao and looks like RvP will get the treatment. He's been woeful off late but lets not write his obituaries yet.
 
quackattack said:
Well over the top now and should seek new challanges in China or the USA. Can't see him coming back now, also considering his age and his ability to get injuries form about anything that exists... Poor lad, should have ended it on top...
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ffs

Get a grip.
 
quackattack said:
That you are online... and no, no sarcasm.
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Ok. Thanks I was getting a little paranoid, however, I cannot believe you think that RVP is spent. The man has a great first touch can get off a great shot with either foot. There are lot more goals in him.
 
markhrad said:
Ok. Thanks I was getting a little paranoid, however, I cannot believe you think that RVP is spent. The man has a great first touch can get off a great shot with either foot. There are lot more goals in him.
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I think one would need the evidence of a whole season to make a judgment. The guy's not back in his rhythm yet - a late start back after the World Cup then the international break straight away.
 
Rednotdead said:
I think one would need the evidence of a whole season to make a judgment. The guy's not back in his rhythm yet - a late start back after the World Cup then the international break straight away.
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Agreed. It could go either way but why should some think negatively? I expect him to show his class, a precipitous drop in class is unlikely for such a motivated player.
 
Rednotdead said:
He doesn't have to peak, he only has to score his fair share of goals. If all the strikers do that they will all have done their job.
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So this is the spirit of "the worlds greatest club"? I thought the standards were higher than "score a few, then we are good". This is not what this club needs now, and I think you know that as well.
 
quackattack said:
I have a grip. He peaked his first season, can't see him peak again, not at his age and injury history.
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He still scored 18 goals last season.

Let's wait and see how he does this season before we right him off. Remember, he did not even have a pre-season so it will take him time to get back to full fitness. Him playing for the Dutch is probably a good thing for us right now.
 
quackattack said:
So this is the spirit of "the worlds greatest club"? I thought the standards were higher than "score a few, then we are good". This is not what this club needs now, and I think you know that as well.
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Please don't put words in my mouth - if you're going to quote me at least have the courtesy to quote what I actually said.

What I said was "their fair share" - which is entirely different from "a few". Their fair share of what the club needs in order to be successful.
 
So erm, RvP who was an absolute God on here during the 12/13 season, is now past it, crap, useless, etc - meanwhile, Welbeck continues to be remembered as a far far better player than he actually was. Only on the Caf.
 
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It seems like his hold up play is completely gone in last 5 or 6 months , and it used to be his strongest attribute. I remember the Real Madrid game and how well he kept the ball with players at his back, involving others into play in the meantime, allowing us to play deep and to attack on break, but now he can't keep the ball with player on his back to save his life. What the feck has happened to him, every time he has the ball he looks like he is playing with fear of injuring himself again. Still early for this season though, just few weeks ago he was on his summer break, but he didn't look any better before the break either, altough he was playing slightly injured during that period, but still...
 
Rednotdead said:
Please don't put words in my mouth - if you're going to quote me at least have the courtesy to quote what I actually said.

What I said was "their fair share" - which is entirely different from "a few". Their fair share of what the club needs in order to be successful.
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Was never intended as quotation of you, so if you felt that I put words in your mouth i sincerely apologize. However, I still stand by what I said. He is simply not needed anymore, and I think it was clear when Falcao arrived. Also considering the fact that Mata is still here which forces Rooney to play striker, this is of course of I am completely wrong and Mata WANTS to warm the bench...
 
quackattack said:
Was never intended as quotation of you, so if you felt that I put words in your mouth i sincerely apologize. However, I still stand by what I said. He is simply not needed anymore, and I think it was clear when Falcao arrived. Also considering the fact that Mata is still here which forces Rooney to play striker, this is of course of I am completely wrong and Mata WANTS to warm the bench...
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The type of service Falcao needs to be a success RVP needs as well. He hasn't had that in nearly 18 months. He's only just turned 31 & until Falcao or di Maria prove otherwise he's still our main man.
 
Amar__ said:
It seems like his hold up play is completely gone in last 5 or 6 months , and it used to be his strongest attribute. I remember the Real Madrid game and how well he kept the ball with players at his back, involving others into play in the meantime, allowing us to play deep and to attack on break, but now he can't keep the ball with player on his back to save his life. What the feck has happened to him, every time he has the ball he looks like he is playing with fear of injuring himself again. Still early for this season though, just few weeks ago he was on his summer break, but he didn't look any better before the break either, altough he was playing slightly injured during that period, but still...
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It's a bit of a mystery and really concerning. Last season you could it down to the whole Moyes effect that made so many good players look terrible. Plus that whole "over-training" thing. Then he goes to the world cup and puts in exactly the same type of performance. Fair enough. Perhaps he's played too much football. Lengthy break after World Cup, reunited with the manager who knows him best and will make sure he gets his preparation spot on. Hey presto, we're a month into the new season and the performances are completely unchanged.

I still think he's too young to write off. I wonder if this is all part of the aging process for footballers? I'm fairly sure Giggs and Scholes both had a lengthy spell of underwhelming performances around the big three oh, then adapted their game and had an Indian summer for the next few years. Same is true of a lot of footballers, when you think about it. Gerrard and Lampard would be two more examples iirc.

In terms of strikers, didn't Drogba go off the boil for a year or two when he entered his fourth decade? Any other examples anyone can think of?
 
I think it's just a fitness issue with van Persie. When he is back fully fit, he will be banging in the goals for us.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
It's a bit of a mystery and really concerning. Last season you could it down to the whole Moyes effect that made so many good players look terrible. Plus that whole "over-training" thing. Then he goes to the world cup and puts in exactly the same type of performance. Fair enough. Perhaps he's played too much football. Lengthy break after World Cup, reunited with the manager who knows him best and will make sure he gets his preparation spot on. Hey presto, we're a month into the new season and the performances are completely unchanged.

I still think he's too young to write off. I wonder if this is all part of the aging process for footballers? I'm fairly sure Giggs and Scholes both had a lengthy spell of underwhelming performances around the big three oh, then adapted their game and had an Indian summer for the next few years. Same is true of a lot of footballers, when you think about it. Gerrard and Lampard would be two more examples iirc.

In terms of strikers, didn't Drogba go off the boil for a year or two when he entered his fourth decade? Any other examples anyone can think of?
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I can't disagree with anything you've said & the signs aren't great however i'm hopeful that once the team gets better he will too. The Dutch team & ours in the last 18 months haven't been good or suited to him & I find it hard to believe he's part of the problem although I may be wrong. If we start to look a good team again & he looks out of form then I may believe he's gone downhill but I still don't think he has.
We'll just have to wait & see. A bit of competition should bring out the best in him again but it can go both ways.

RE the bit in bold - it's worrying that i'm finding it pretty hard to think of any examples.
 
We should probably wait until our team finds form/itself before writing off players for good...

Unless you think we're generally going to stay this crap all season.
 


Praising Wilson too, must have made a really good impression to the senior squad.
 
RDCR07 said:
Christ! If you think Robin fecking Van Persie doesn't have the vision or the link up play then you haven't watched him enough. If you think he is not an intelligent player, then you have gone mad. Here is a video that shows a snippet of what he is. He is so much more than just a #9, than just a goal scorer. He gets involved in the build up and often drops deep to help the team out. In fact he performs that role much better than Falcao does. I posted a video a in RVP's other thread (maybe last years?) while back that showed just what he does for the team. I can't find it. Maybe @Damien can help me find it.

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This is not the same player, he had to be among the best 5 players in the world at that time, just amazing. Kagawa also looked really well in that vid. If we get RVP/Falcao at their best working great together it would be the best partnership ever.
 
Sammyjunn said:
This is not the same player, he had to be among the best 5 players in the world at that time, just amazing. Kagawa also looked really well in that vid.
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I wasn't talking about him keeping up that level of play. But I was referring to the point that he is more involved in build up play and has the vision and the skill to play a cross field ball if he needs to. I don't think age is going to take that away from him.
 
Mad to think People are questioning his ability, in the last few months he's been unfit and still had memorable performances. Hattrick vs Olympiakos and the Spain game.
 
Haddock said:
Mad to think People are questioning his ability, in the last few months he's been unfit and still had memorable performances. Hattrick vs Olympiakos and the Spain game.
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Agreed, still one of the best.
 
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