RvP will start scoring soon, mark my words. He's too good not to. World class player.
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overreaction.
I think he is getting back his sharpness and had some clever movement, shame he missed a few chances. I think he will play a less prominent role from here on in but he will also contribute effectively once he gets going.
He moved around very well and if he will be doing that and a play around him will be as good as today he will start scoring goals for fun. He was unlucky with his shot after Di Maria pass and the same happened at Burnley. If he would scored that two goals nobody will moan about him. He will score no worry.
Get a hold lad. I've been of this opinion since Falcao's arrival. He's the least dynamic forward we have, the oldest, the most susceptible to injury and could potentially serve to the slowing down of our football. Again, he's brilliant, but we have other brilliant players, as well as a captain that will not be dropped and looks a better fit for the system.
Van Persie will rifle in a scorcher some time soon, I'm fully aware of that, but I'm looking at the bigger picture here.
See above. Been saying it all week. Well in.
Got better as the game went on and I thought Falcao looked his better strike partner.
He'll get his chances in this set up, four senior players into three positions is the perfect amount to allow for rotation, injuries and changes in form.
He'll get his chances in this set up, four senior players into three positions is the perfect amount to allow for rotation, injuries and changes in form.
What would you like me to hold?
he missed three big chances stole a goal from herreras feet.. looked better but i can't see why he couldn't be benched and his time should be given to someone like januzaj.. who needs those minutes to gain confidence
Still does not mean its not total bollox. The more you say something does not make it true.
As much as I like him Falcao should start the next game.
Why is it bollocks? I think in Rooney, Falcao and Mata we have a younger, fitter - therefore more reliable - and more balanced attacking trio. Thus, I don't see a place for an albeit brilliant footballer in our best first team going forward.
He'll get chances, he'll most likely play very well when he does play, and he'll certainly score goals, but only a goon would think I was disputing that. A 31 year old that spent the majority of last season injured is certainly the player we should look to be marginalising, if that's what we have to do one of the much-discussed quartet.
Much better in the second half on the left striker position. That backpass was one of the selfless moves I saw in recent years, I think every striker in the world would go for a shot there, but instead he opted for a to a man who might bench him.
Agreed. I've also said a few times that I don't think he really fits the way we should be looking to play.
Why change something that's working? It's not like RVP was bad
He wasnt bad but he wasnt particulary good either.
RVP-Rooney partnership doesnt exactly work.
Can't believe he didn't shoot from that chance, he's been in those positions a million times and he always shoots.
van Persie in any partnership doesn't work.
They weren't playing as an attacking partnership today anyway.
One thing that really struck me today was how far apart Van Gaal has them playing. Totally the opposite to Moyes. They were switching a lot and there was always a good 40 yards space between them. Perhaps a tactic to make them both effective on the same field.
Now we have Falcao and RVP we need more crosses to service these 2 beast of players. RVP will start getting us goals we have to remember this is a new team who have only played 1 game together.
They weren't exactly playing as a traditional strike partnership though. And Falcao didn't exactly do much to put himself ahead of RVP
He did alright I thought. There's more to come from him.
The age brigade out again, I imagine you were one of the mindless fans calling for Giggs to be phased out at 31? He went on to play some of his best football in his early to mid 30's.
As for RVP based on how rusty Falcao looked today and after his crippling injuries I would be more worried about him. RVP has had nowhere near the severity of injuries that Falcao has.
If LVG is sensible he will ignore footballing experts such as yourself and rotate the team so they all get roughly the same game time and therefore are fresh for the big tests this season. People seem quick to forget we put 4 past the lowest ranked team in the championship of the 3 that came up.
My opinion on Giggs ten years ago has nothing to do with this discussion. But evaluating the age of a squad and looking to marginalise a quality 31 year old with an injury history ahead of a quality 25 year old that does not have an injury history, if that's what needs to be done, is simply sensible squad management.
I've offered an opinion on Van Persie and attempted to discuss my reasoning. If you're going to rabbit on with that "footballing expert" crack though, then just feck off and don't waste my time with your wanky replies.
He looked better and more fresh than his previous two games, which probably is an indication that he will find his form sooner or later. Don't forget that the system is new to him too, once all players have settled in he will start scoring on a regular basis again.
Right now we're a team in transition with many newcomers and a manager who is trying to implement a playing style that is completely different to what these players have been playing over the last years. Imo the most important thing in this phase is commitment from all the players on the pitch and today RvP tried his best to help the team.
So, i believe RvP had a relatively good game. He was continuously swapping positions with Mata (mostly) and Rooney in order to create spaces between the lines, he made some decent deep runs in the box and he always tried to provide options and disturb the defense in the box.
His off the ball movement in the box stretches the defense and creates enough space for Rooney to attempt a shot and score and his involvement in the build up for Mata's goal was excellent. He moved deeper, created space for a run in the box for Mata and chose the right pass to Di Maria. Relax guys, the goals will come... this is RvP we are talking about.
Right now we're a team in transition with many newcomers and a manager who is trying to implement a playing style that is completely different to what these players have been playing over the last years. Imo the most important thing in this phase is commitment from all the players on the pitch and today RvP tried his best to help the team.
So, i believe RvP had a relatively good game. He was continuously swapping positions with Mata (mostly) and Rooney in order to create spaces between the lines, he made some decent deep runs in the box and he always tried to provide options and disturb the defense in the box.
His off the ball movement in the box stretches the defense and creates enough space for Rooney to attempt a shot and score and his involvement in the build up for Mata's goal was excellent. He moved deeper, created space for a run in the box for Mata and chose the right pass to Di Maria. Relax guys, the goals will come... this is RvP we are talking about.
He was much better in the second half, so OK, he is improving.
Lets not get childish and try and use insults, I am just saying Falcao has had far worse injuries (those that can end careers) than RVP. I would be making sure neither are over used. With regards to age Falcao and RVP are only a few years apart age wise and I would personally judge their respective fitness/injury levels based on scientific facts not age numbers. I assume you know not all players age the same in football, some peak early some have amazing longevity?
people and their obsession with Falcao. I dont care who plays, as long as we win i couldnt care less if it is Rooney, Falcao or RvP. People really are obsessed with Mata and Falcao, forgetting what RvP has to offer. Last year, he was undroppable, now after signing Falcao and Mata, they want him dropped. There is a reason why he started in front of Falcao today, Falcao isnt ready yet. RvP played well today, he tried and was a bit unlucky. When he scores one, his confidence will grow.
He was ok, particularly in the 2nd half. Defensively he did will now that he had to cover wide in a 4-3-3
Definite improvement compared to previous performances, but it was still an pretty sub-standard performance. Definitely looked sharper and came into the game more following Falcao's introduction, but his hold-up play and link-up play just doesn't look consistently anywhere near the level he's set the last three years. I'd persist with him for the Leicester game, as he was better and there's no need to change anything - defence aside - following a near faultless attacking display from the team.
I didn't insult you but no worries, apologies for the tense reply. I take your point in regards to Falcao's injury record, but here's hoping. And going forward, with the new man being brought in, I'm going to assume he has a big part to play here. Horrendous form aside, which I'm sure won't be the case, he'll be lining up every week. I think Rooney is in a similar situation. To me, it looks like a straight shootout between Van Persie and Mata if we are to pick a best first XI. Personally, I'd be looking to give that spot to Mata, get him fit and firing, and using Rooney and Falcao's dynamism to exploit defences.
I haven't really written Van Persie off completely. I've stressed he's a brilliant player, one that will still score a lot of goals here. But I'm trying to look at the bigger picture. The kind of team I would like us to be is a fast one that will terrify defenders. I just don't think Van Persie, particularly when he's partnered with Rooney, is the answer for that future. I've said enough now, people can feel free to simply disagree.
Certainly improved in the 2nd half anyway, and was really unselfish with his cut back. If he scored I'd put his performance on the same level as Rooney's today. Both better than previous games, but still a lot of work for them to do. Promising signs. Falcao will probably start the next game though.
Even when Rooney dropped back when Falcao came on he did not link up with RVP although the latter's movement off the ball was good.
That I agree with -
Its tough I agree as Mata is great but so is RVP (who had a great WC) I hope we rotate them sensibly and when the big games arrive we pick the in form players. But again the team I would pick V Chelsea for example would not include Mata due to the way they defend and set up. But Vs Arsenal he would be one of the first on the team sheet for me.
Of course no offense taken or meant, healthy and honest debate makes this forum what it is -
He's a moaning bastard if someone doesn't pass to him when he feels they should isn't he ? Very unlikable player.
I'm probably being a bit picky, but I'm just watching Herreras goal again and saw RvP screaming for it before Herrera shot and scored. RvP didn't smile in the celebration, quickly hugged him and walked off. He really needs a goal.
The RVP from two seasons ago would have finished the delightful ball he got from Di Maria in the second half.
You get a feeling that RVP of the 2012/13 season would've banged that volley in from Di Maria's perfect outside-of-the-foot pass. Van Persie just needs to get into his stride again.
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