Hilarious how people are writing him off. Absolutely ridiculous, his movement is as good as ever but he needs service. Without service he isn't going to score.
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This pretty much confirms we will use the 3-5-2 formation. Rooney will be a midfielder, RVP and Falcao up front.
I this will be another case of lack of service up front. If we do happen to create chances, then we will score goals. We just need practice crossing one successful ball.
He was out of sorts in his last two games, I hope he can come back and prove me wrong but I feel he's on the decline.
Rooney in midfield means even more pointless crossfield passes and even more losses of possession. Really hope it doesn't happen.
Rvp and Falcao upfront 
If you told me that the day before we signed RVP I would have laughed in your face.
On paper that is arguably the best strikeforce in world football. Whether it goes swimmingly is another mata.
If you told me that the day before we signed RVP I would have laughed in your face.
On paper that is arguably the best strikeforce in world football. Whether it goes swimmingly is another mata.
Won't Rooney more likely drop into the no.10 role, where Mata has been largely ineffectual this season?
But I've been told Mata is so much better there.
I doubt that Van Gaal will have been impressed so far. We'll see though.
We have to play 4-3-3. This 3-5-2 nonsense will never get the best out of our strikers. Falcao and RvP are pure strikers. They had their best games and years playing alone as the main man. With them in the team, it is like defending with 9 men. Putting them together wont work just like Rooney with RvP. Even worse with Rooney behind them.
Exactly, he had two decent chances against Burnley, very intelligent off the ball. More passes like the one from Di Maria from midfield and he will be back in the goals in no time.
If that is the case then Mata is on the outs....its between Rooney and Mata for the #10 role.
So if Van Persie says he's not injured or having surgery where do they all play?
One of them will be dropped, which forces that player to make the most of his sub appearances. Competition is good, as SAF always demonstrated.
My money is on Van Persie being dropped.
They won't all play. Someone will be dropped and have to start fighting for their place. That's a good thing.
I don't think he'll be impressed with Rooney there once Rooney struggles to even control the ball.
In a way it's a little bit of a shame that RvP doesn't need knee surgery. At least there was an excuse as to why he looks so off the last few games. Now it just looks like natural decline.
You guys forget that RVP wasn't fully fit and hasn't had a pre season so he's a bit rusty. Wait a couple of more games before you write him off.
Old Trafford, until Woody sells them to Arsenal.
Does LVG really believe that a front-three of
works?
To make that work the players would need to actually link up and not just wait for the wing-backs to join the attack and then cross to them.
If RVP is not injured I'm really interested to see how that will work out, 3 potentially world-class strikers.
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RooneyTo make that work the players would need to actually link up and not just wait for the wing-backs to join the attack and then cross to them.
If RVP is not injured I'm really interested to see how that will work out, 3 potentially world-class strikers.
Van Persie warns Falcao
Manchester United striker Robin van Persie has warned new colleague Radamel Falcao that he faces a fight for a starting place.
The Colombia international's £6m loan move to Old Trafford dominated transfer deadline day as Louis van Gaal continued to splash United's cash - but Van Persie was bullish about the prospect of falling down the pecking order.
The Netherlands star, 31, said of the Monaco forward: "I welcome his arrival, he makes us better.
"At a top club you should always go for the best, which also fits my philosophy. Falcao must fight for his place, as I also have to. We must duke with Wayne Rooney and James Wilson to see who is playing."
Initial rumours had suggested 28-year-old Falcao had been signed because Van Persie will be sidelined for a significant portion of the season by knee surgery - but the former Arsenal star has quashed the claims.
Van Persie added: "I am impressed that people can pick up the imagination to invent something like that.
"I do not know where it comes from and can say with my hand on my heart that I won't be in a hospital to have the operation."
http://www.teamtalk.com/manchester-...-van-Persie-warns-Radamel-Falcao-on-selection
Nothing like good competition.
Manchester United striker Robin van Persie has warned new colleague Radamel Falcao that he faces a fight for a starting place.
The Colombia international's £6m loan move to Old Trafford dominated transfer deadline day as Louis van Gaal continued to splash United's cash - but Van Persie was bullish about the prospect of falling down the pecking order.
The Netherlands star, 31, said of the Monaco forward: "I welcome his arrival, he makes us better.
"At a top club you should always go for the best, which also fits my philosophy. Falcao must fight for his place, as I also have to. We must duke with Wayne Rooney and James Wilson to see who is playing."
Initial rumours had suggested 28-year-old Falcao had been signed because Van Persie will be sidelined for a significant portion of the season by knee surgery - but the former Arsenal star has quashed the claims.
Van Persie added: "I am impressed that people can pick up the imagination to invent something like that.
"I do not know where it comes from and can say with my hand on my heart that I won't be in a hospital to have the operation."
http://www.teamtalk.com/manchester-...-van-Persie-warns-Radamel-Falcao-on-selection
Nothing like good competition.
Amazes me that so many people seem to be forgetting this man.
Oozes class and a definite starter in our side for me. Glad to hear his knee is fine and he is simply lacking some match fitness after the WC.
Oozes class and a definite starter in our side for me. Glad to hear his knee is fine and he is simply lacking some match fitness after the WC.
Agree. Look how he was against Spain – when he gets the service.
Is he with the national team? He could use some minutes there to get his fitness back sooner.
I think RVP is very effective behind the striker. It's not his best position, but I think he's got a better short game than Rooney.
Saw his goals again for us thus far, absolute class. With all the transfers, especially Falcao and Di Maria, i forgot how good he was and still is. If fit and on form, give him the ball in a good position and he bangs them in. I stillt hink he will be back, he is just fantastic.
Read a few saying he was real bad for the dutch again today in a different formaiton. Something right now is off about his form totally. Hopefully finds his mojo/confidence back soon.
I just don't get the Falcao signing.
Wait till he rattles 20 plus for us.
VanPersie should be worried,as Falcao as a leading the line striker is a better player.Dont get me wrong i love the dutchman bur hes gone off the the boil over the last year.Hopefully vanGaal can help him back to the form of 2 years ago.
Im sceptical though,and envisage vanP becoming the one on the bench.
I just hope hes ok with maybe having to readjust to sitting out a lot this year.
If you dont keep moving forward you get left behind as our current catch up year is proving,but its a build with an eye on the team for the next 2 years.
The problem there has been that both Rooney and Van Persie are good 'link-up' players, and hence often seem to be getting in the way of each other. As RVP once said:
That seemed to be the precise problem, both of them occupying the same areas (dropping deep when not in possession, in the box in similar areas when in possession). That possibly also explains why they don't pass much to each other.
Theoretically, Falcao should work better with one of these two dropping deep and Falcao on the shoulder of the last defender, providing the best finishing touch.
I haven't watched, but I saw they were man down for pretty much entire game.
I watched the game. He was pretty terrible. He just looks a shadow of his usual self. You'd think he'd back refreshed after the longish break at the end of summer but it seems to have been almost counter-productive. More rusty than rested.
Isn't this his 3 or 4th game while other players have had 6 or so games of pre-season under their belt?
Football fans tend to forget what a player can do when he has 2 bad games even after 2 very consistent seasons van Persie had. The one that should be dropped right now is Rooney, he's been one of our worst recent performers. It isn't even a question of not being on form, he's been that bad.
All the football geniuses who are writing off RVP, saying we wasn't good last year (while he simply wasn't fit, when he was fit he was excellent like always) should look at his Holland stats and compare them to the strikers who they think are so much better than RVP
RVP stats since august 2012 (when Louis van Gaal took over at Holland).
World Cup Qualifiers: 9 matches 11 goals
World Cup 2014: 7 matches 4 goals
Friendly matches: 12 matches 6 goals
So that's 21 goals in 28 matches, a 0.75 goal ratio. And if you disregard the friendlies where I remember him just strolling around, trying to not get injured it is a very slick 0.9375 goals per game ratio for the World Cup 2014 + World Cup Qualifiers.
Big part of those stats come from last (2013/2014) season. So please don't tell me he's on the decline. He's only 31, as long as he stays fit he is brilliant for at least two more years. The moment him or Rooney pick up a knock or are out of form, we'll be thanking God we have Falcao. It's a win=win=win situation.
RVP stats since august 2012 (when Louis van Gaal took over at Holland).
World Cup Qualifiers: 9 matches 11 goals
World Cup 2014: 7 matches 4 goals
Friendly matches: 12 matches 6 goals
So that's 21 goals in 28 matches, a 0.75 goal ratio. And if you disregard the friendlies where I remember him just strolling around, trying to not get injured it is a very slick 0.9375 goals per game ratio for the World Cup 2014 + World Cup Qualifiers.
Big part of those stats come from last (2013/2014) season. So please don't tell me he's on the decline. He's only 31, as long as he stays fit he is brilliant for at least two more years. The moment him or Rooney pick up a knock or are out of form, we'll be thanking God we have Falcao. It's a win=win=win situation.
I dont think people are writing him off,its just we re excited we have a better no 9 in Falcao.
He and Rooney/Mat will have to slug it out who plays in the ss/10 position and this is a good thing to build for next year as it should bring the best out of them all.
The onus will be attitude,Falcaos ability will guarantee him a position of that im certain,vanP is trying to hard and has hit a slump but his attitude with vanGaal at the helm should get him through.Leaving wayne,and we all know thats a knife edge when things arent going his way.But feck it its a great problem to have.
He and Rooney/Mat will have to slug it out who plays in the ss/10 position and this is a good thing to build for next year as it should bring the best out of them all.
The onus will be attitude,Falcaos ability will guarantee him a position of that im certain,vanP is trying to hard and has hit a slump but his attitude with vanGaal at the helm should get him through.Leaving wayne,and we all know thats a knife edge when things arent going his way.But feck it its a great problem to have.
Meh, I very much doubt Falcao is better than the RvP we saw in Fergies last year. Not saying he will get back to that level but we all assume hes better when he's yet to play in the league and had a whole season out injured. Let's wait and see.
I agree. To me there is no way rooney is better than RVP. I cannot think of any skill in open play where Rooney is better than RVP. The one argument people make in favour of Rooney is his goal scoring record, never mind that it has been inflated by years of playing in the top team in England. Well in 2 of the last 3 years RVP was the prem's top goalscorer and last year he was injured and unfit for a long period of time.
Even internationally, Rooney's number of goals are due to the number of years/ games played and the quality of opposition in the qualifying rounds. we all know his record in the actual big tournaments.
Those in favour of Rooney are just stubborn. I am sure some will speak about his long pass ability when really it is pinging the ball out to the right wing. RVP could probably do it as well but why as a striker would he want to do that?
There really is no comparison between the two, RVP is a class above Rooney.
Do you mean "is better" or "will be better"?
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