Today was the day he needed to score
Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances
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In the first half yes, but in the 2nd he was very much involved. He set-up a goal, scored one which was offside (I haven't seen it again, but from what I remember at the ground, he didn't need to be offside to get into that position I don't think) and then should have scored one when put through... so yeah, he was definitely in there in the 2nd half.
He's off form.I expected him to at least hit the target with the chance had in the 2nd half.Rooney's return can only be good for him, someone on the same wavelength as him to link up with up front
I hate how we are playing him as a second striker instead of an attacing midfielder.
Oops wrong thread. Was for the Kanawha thread.
Oops wrong thread. Was for the Kanawha thread.
That's it really. It's easy to think 'sure we have Kagawa playing behind Van Persie now' and forget we have been missing our talisman for a while. If the two of them click, which they looked like doing at times in the second half, we will be absolutely deadly this season.
His missNever expected that from him. Oh well
Is Van Persie feeling the pressure or simply one of those 'misses'?
It was one of those misses...
His look towards the bench was very nervous. He will come good, his overall play is alright, he's creating chances, holding the ball well at occasions.
as opposed to every other goal he scored? Like the last minute against Southampton? Be nice if somebody else stepped up.
He has five goals in five league appearances. He's bound to miss a chance here and again.
We saw glimpses of what him, Rooney and Kagawa can do when playing together. Can't wait for them to fully gel together and terrify teams.
It takes two to tango though, he should come deep more often like he did in the second half to try and form an understanding.
In terms of his actual all round play and getting involved in the game I thought the second half yesterday was probably the best hes looked
Has he always been this slow? 
Not saying pace is the be all and end all but I don't remember him being so slow.
Not saying pace is the be all and end all but I don't remember him being so slow.
Was the first time him, Rooney and Kagawa were on the pitch at the same time and we were tearing spurs apart. Play them from the start next week and we should have similar attacking play.
He's scored 5 goals in 6 league games. If he continued scoring at the current rate he'd end the season with 31 or 32 league goals. Obviously that won't happen but he's only finding his match sharpness while trying to adapt to a new club, players and system. Not sure we could have expected that much more at this stage.
I like the thought of the 3 of them together (presumed you meant Kagawa, Rooney and RVP btyw?) but they aren't the reason for our good football in the 2nd half. It was because Spurs spent the whole 2nd half camped on the edge of their own box. There was no pressure in midfield at all.
Yeah I meant to write Kagawa. That was definitely part of the reason for our good football IMO, Rooney coming on for giggs. With giggs on we were playing with 10 men pretty much but Rooney on forced them to push back further and further. Kagawa on the left found much more space and time on the ball then he did in the middle, and IMO the lineup we had at the start of the second half is our best starting 11 (maybe Valencia in for nani, but that's debatable).
Never expected that from him. Oh well
I didn't find it as funny as you did clearly
Has he always been this slow?
Not saying pace is the be all and end all but I don't remember him being so slow.
Similar pace to Rooney with less burst to it. Good acceleration makes you look that much faster on the pitch since football is about small bursts for the most part and that's why he looks so slow.
In short, yes.
Has he always been this slow?
Not saying pace is the be all and end all but I don't remember him being so slow.
Spurs just have a faster pace than most
Why won't that happen? I wouldn't bet against him scoring that many once he's established a partnership with Rooney.
You'd think, with him coming from Arsenal, that he would improve our possession play, but he's not been able to get into the games. United do play a much more direct type of possession football, he must not be used to taking up the sort of positions we ask of him.
But he's a top quality player and I'm sure he'll find his rhythm.
But he's a top quality player and I'm sure he'll find his rhythm.
He's going to go up a gear now that Rooney's back.
He's probably only just approaching anything like peak condition too given the Summer he had.
He wasn't instrumental in Arsenal keeping possession, he was there to finish their chances and create moments of magic.. which is kind of like what he's done for us thus far. He's not a Rooney.. Rooney is a unique striker in that sense, he's a true old school number 10 especially when he's motivated and fit.
I believe so too. Really want to see them given loads of games to build something upon.
It's time to stop fecking around and play him and Rooney together. If that requires shifting Kagawa out on to the wing, then so be it. You can't have two players of the quality of Rooney and RVP and not play either one of them on a regular basis.
Beware the curse of Wenger...
Theres something that isnt really working up front at the moment. RVP isnt getting the supply he needs - its him that should be on the end of the kind of pass he himself gave to Kagawa for our second goal, but no one else is supplying him with those kind of passes. He was played through once for that terrible miss but we cant expect him to score every chance he has. He needs more supply if he is to play as far up as he has been thus far.
Henry, Clichy, Nasri, Fabregas have all had more successful seasons elsewhere.
I'm no expert on Arsenal, but I'd think with their style of play they would need everyone to take part in such a slow sort of build up. From what I've seen I thought Van Persie was a slick passer but we haven't really seen a lot of that from him so far.
I like to see everyone involved in the build up play, personally.
'kinnel, 5 goals in 6 and we're holding an inquiry? .....and if he gets involved in the build-up he can't be on the end of it as well. He's a strker.
No....he's shit...it's official now.
Slick passer? did you not see his pass to kagawa for the second goal. The problem isn't his play, it's getting him involved and providing service to him. That means not just crossing it into the box and hoping he can latch onto it. We have enough creativity to penetrate teams from the middle. When we do that, if we do that actually, is when we'll be utilizing RVP fully.
I thought the only real encouraging sign from Spurs, were that the front trio of Kagawa/RvP/Rooney definitely can link up and play together. Kagawa started off to the left, but drifted nicely into advanced attacking positions infield. RvP came deep and got involved, and Rooney were our playmaker. It meant the distance between our midfield and our attackers were shortened, allowing Carrick and Scholes to feed them, and it also meant less relying on out of form wingers to create everything.
Realistically though, we won't go gung-ho like that for 90 minutes in a match against that kind of opposition, it's too risky. What we should do is try something like this, creating a good mix of players who can keep possession, and the needed attacking thrust and flair in the final third:
Carrick-Anderson
Nani
Rooney Kagawa
RvP
It was basically like that in the second half, with the front four interchanging positions. If we had some legs to support them from midfield, we're good. Cleverley could probably play the Anderson role as well then.
Realistically though, we won't go gung-ho like that for 90 minutes in a match against that kind of opposition, it's too risky. What we should do is try something like this, creating a good mix of players who can keep possession, and the needed attacking thrust and flair in the final third:
Carrick-Anderson
Nani
Rooney Kagawa
RvP
It was basically like that in the second half, with the front four interchanging positions. If we had some legs to support them from midfield, we're good. Cleverley could probably play the Anderson role as well then.
That second goal was sexy.
When did he start throwing himself into tackles? He's made loads this season.
Very good scoring record from a player who isn't yet at his best
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