Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances

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I'm not too bothered about his misses to be honest, every striker has them and surely RVP has fewer than most. It's his demeanour that I'm worried about, he doesn't look happy on the pitch. I suppose that is understandable given our form this year, so hopefully it's just that.
 
I'm not too bothered about his misses to be honest, every striker has them and surely RVP has fewer than most. It's his demeanour that I'm worried about, he doesn't look happy on the pitch. I suppose that is understandable given our form this year, so hopefully it's just that.
Does anyone?
 
It would be strange if any of our players looked happy on the pitch playing the way we're playing.
 
Scored 3 in 3 before last night and as soon as he misses a chance he's not arsed. He missed some clear cut chances last season too when he was banging them in left right and centre. It's just one of those things. I don't for a second believe he's not arsed. RvP always wants to score goals.
In fact, he had a pretty brutal barren last season; this season he's been fairly consistent when healthy. It's just that the team has sucked, so everyone has looked a bit forlorn.
 
:lol: Tancredi is a piece of shit and is on par with Indykaila.

To be fair to him, he was the first one with the Vidic news. But yes he got to be one of the worst out there. But it would absolutely fit to Wengers quotes about him.
 
It would be quit fitting. He's exactly what Arsenal is míssing and showed that the only thing he cares about is tropheys. As long as we can keep Rooney I'd be not too worried with losing him. Mata behind Rooney and build a team around that could be actually our best bet for the next years.
 
It would be quit fitting. He's exactly what Arsenal is míssing and showed that the only thing he cares about is tropheys. As long as we can keep Rooney I'd be not too worried with losing him. Mata behind Rooney and build a team around that could be actually our best bet for the next years.
agreed as long as we get a good fee for him. Later on this year he ll turn 31 - so this could be our last chance to cash on him
 
agreed as long as we get a good fee for him. Later on this year he ll turn 31 - so this could be our last chance to cash on him

Also only a fool would believe that we'll be challenging for EPL next season. It's just a bad fit for both parties. We need to build a whole next team and sadly there is no room for 30+ key players, that are unhappy.
 
Tancredi says Wenger met RvP's agent in London on 28th Jan. The day that Wenger was in Southampton.
 
Wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to leave, we're not in the CL next season and he'll have the excuse of Fergie not sticking to his promise. Whether we actually let him leave though is another story, maybe if we were to get Cavani.
 
He left Arsenal even when they made the top four, can't see him wanting to stay here when we're out of the race for fourth in February. You could tell he was very happy with the Mata signing but now even with Mata we're out of the race, I'm not sure if he will want to stay.
 
I never get to into what these journalists say, what percentage actually comes true. Though his story makes sense so I wouldn't be surprised if he left and Wenger wanted him back. There isn't that much world class talent available, I would be quite disappointed if he left. But he is going to be 31 and he lacks the pace to stretch teams, he is an fantastic player though.
 
Keep him one more season, then sell. I don't think we are under any pressure to sell just now as he has 2 years remaining after this season. He's proven he still bangs them in, even when he's got a case of the boohoos. His last season at Arsenal was immense, even though he wanted out. Unhappy RVP is quality.

Or just keep him until the end of his contract, when he'll be nearly 34 and probably not as good as he is now.

Getting rid this summer, when we look set to miss out on European football, could be detrimental when it comes to attracting summer targets. Players will want to come here and play with Robin Van Persie. Not for a club getting rid of him because we can't match his ambition.
 
It would be quit fitting. He's exactly what Arsenal is míssing and showed that the only thing he cares about is tropheys. As long as we can keep Rooney I'd be not too worried with losing him. Mata behind Rooney and build a team around that could be actually our best bet for the next years.

I'd be surprised if Rooney stayed, even though he's been making positive noises in public. He tried to leave twice under SAF with trophies virtually guaranteed, and now, by simply refusing to sign a new contract in the coming months, he has an easy path out of a club in decline, which mightn't win another trophy for years if DM stays at the helm.

Unless he actually disliked Fergie, or was concerned solely about money, I don't see why he'd change his mind and stay in the present circumstances.
 
He left Arsenal even when they made the top four, can't see him wanting to stay here when we're out of the race for fourth in February. You could tell he was very happy with the Mata signing but now even with Mata we're out of the race, I'm not sure if he will want to stay.

If I remember well he's still tied with a long term contract and at his age he wont attract the fees United would probably want.

If Rooney signs we will be better off without him. We'll put Rooney upfront, Mata in his natural role and Januzaj on the flank with the chance of getting a proper winger on the other side
 
I'd be surprised if Rooney stayed, even though he's been making positive noises in public. He tried to leave twice under SAF with trophies virtually guaranteed, and now, by simply refusing to sign a new contract in the coming months, he has an easy path out of a club in decline, which mightn't win another trophy for years if DM stays at the helm.

Unless he actually disliked Fergie, or was concerned solely about money, I don't see why he'd change his mind and stay in the present circumstances.

The first time was clearly about money. The second time was due to his falling out with Sir Alex.

Honestly nobody can predict what he is going to do next, after almost a decade with us it is quite disappointing but alas, such is life. Moyes may have to just start completely from scratch building his own which is a daunting 2-3 year task.
 
Do players have to have that "happy" look on their faces when they're on the pitch ?

To play at their best, yes. Just look at Ronaldo. Yes, he was very good in 08/09 too, but with the passion and thrive in 07/08 he managed to play the best EPL season in history. Footballers are professionals, but also humans, you can't perform at your absolute best if you're not 100% into what you're doing.
 
He came to us because he wanted to win trophies. It's that fecking simple.

So why would it be a surprise if he then wants to leave us this summer?
 
No he's not going anywhere for atleast one more season. He will leave one day but i don't think he will be THAT quick to jump ship. One more season he will stay me thinks.
 
To play at their best, yes. Just look at Ronaldo. Yes, he was very good in 08/09 too, but with the passion and thrive in 07/08 he managed to play the best EPL season in history. Footballers are professionals, but also humans, you can't perform at your absolute best if you're not 100% into what you're doing.

You can be 100% into what you're doing without displaying exuberant signs of happiness. I'm just trying to understands how RVP can be perceived to be unhappy and even how can some be 100% sure he isn't happy. A lot of people act like they're some body language experts whereas in reality they're clutching at straws.
 
You can be 100% into what you're doing without displaying exuberant signs of happiness. I'm just trying to understands how RVP can be perceived to be unhappy and even how can some be 100% sure he isn't happy. A lot of people act like they're some body language experts whereas in reality they're clutching at straws.

- It's confirmed by many reliable sources he came here because he wanted to win trophies and if you look how he celebrated that title, I believe it.
- After a season where he wasn't injured at all, his injury problems are back again and according to dutch media he blames Moyes for it.
- Both men who lured him here are gone (Meulensteen and SAF)
- He is 31 next season, time is running out for him.

This isn't like Ronaldo at all where people are saying stuff because he doesn't celebrate like a mad man anymore. All the reasons he came here a gone and we are in a major transition. He isn't a loyal person by any means, so the fear of him wanting to leave a sinking ship isn't irrational at all.
 
- It's confirmed by many reliable sources he came here because he wanted to win trophies and if you look how he celebrated that title, I believe it.
- After a season where he wasn't injured at all, his injury problems are back again and according to dutch media he blames Moyes for it.
- Both men who lured him here are gone (Meulensteen and SAF)
- He is 31 next season, time is running out for him.

This isn't like Ronaldo at all where people are saying stuff because he doesn't celebrate like a mad man anymore. All the reasons he came here a gone and we are in a major transition. He isn't a loyal person by any means, so the fear of him wanting to leave a sinking ship isn't irrational at all.

Fearing it makes sense and it's not based on nothing I suppose. I'm surprised by the certainty of some people that he's unhappy and that he'll want out come the summer. All I'm saying is let's not make conclusions just yet even if they're really tempting.
 
No he's not going anywhere for atleast one more season. He will leave one day but i don't think he will be THAT quick to jump ship. One more season he will stay me thinks.
If he was a few years younger, I'd agree. But he's a guy who left a club he'd been at for 8 years for their rivals just to win something, and that's fine, but it shows that he's probably desperate for trophies at this stage of his career.

He'll be 31 when the new season starts and I don't think he'll be too interested in helping us through what looks like is going to be a very tough/long transitional period.
 
People on here are a fickle bunch, especially when it comes to age. RVP is the best player at United. Why would we sell him? An average season and he is too old or not arsed enough. Makes me wonder at times...
 
Our best player, hope he stays. Have an inkling he might well be off though, and it could well be a blessing in disguise. Get Rooney out of that number ten role, put him up top where he's a much better player. Facilitate one of Januzaj, Mata or Kagawa in his best position.
 
I wonder if he feels mislead by Ferguson over moving to United? It's a damn shame things have gone sour, if indeed they have.
 
People on here are a fickle bunch, especially when it comes to age. RVP is the best player at United. Why would we sell him? An average season and he is too old or not arsed enough. Makes me wonder at times...
In terms of rebuilding, there's plenty of positive ways you can look at his sale. He'll be about 34 on massive wages by the end of his contract, we could potentially recoup what we paid on his transfer fee. Then there's his injuries(can we still call him injury prone?), they might start reappearing as he gets older.

You also get the feeling that having him and Rooney both in the squad restricts Moyes massively. He's almost forced into starting with Mata, van Persie and Rooney in every match barring fitness and injury. I wouldn't be against selling one, assuming one of them stays. We'd be going forward with something like:

Rooney/RvP
Januzaj - Mata - Winger

Still very promising when you consider Januzaj's potential and the potential coup of a world class winger.

Weren't Barca in a similar position with Ronaldinho etc(extreme circumstances I know_? Letting go of your best players isn't always a bad thing.
 
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