He won the league with us last season and we're only a few games into the season ffs.
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Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances
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He won the league with us last season and we're only a few games into the season ffs.
This place sometimes.
He gets such little service.
Last season he averaged 26.9 passes per game. In his last season at Arsenal he averaged 27.2 passes per game. That's just the type of player he's become. Though obviously he's getting less of the ball now when the team's in poor form.
I'm not sure that's it myself. The one thing I found interesting about your Rooney-van Persie stat a while back was the fact Rooney has actually scored more than van Persie in the games they've started together. Considering their comparative goal totals in that time that tells you that it really doesn't bring the best out of van Persie.
He'd be banging in an insane amount of goals with that Arsenal team behind him. We really need to improve our chance creation because if we don't, we're limiting a potential 35-40 goal a season player to around 20-25 goals a season.
I wonder if he'd gone had he known that Ferguson was going to leave after just one season.
He'll be happy he won the league and got the golden boot, but I have always felt that he could have been a real hero at Arsenal whereas at United, he's just another league winning striker. Now, he's probably going to have to go into 2-3 years of transition with United when he could be playing in an Arsenal team just approaching its peak, with service from Ozil and Cazorla.
He made his bed, now he has to lie in it.
He'll be happy he won the league and got the golden boot, but I have always felt that he could have been a real hero at Arsenal whereas at United, he's just another league winning striker. Now, he's probably going to have to go into 2-3 years of transition with United when he could be playing in an Arsenal team just approaching its peak, with service from Ozil and Cazorla.
He made his bed, now he has to lie in it.
He won a title here, there's no guarantee he'd win one with that Arsenal team, I doubt he's got many regrets, somehow.
Quite significant that he is now averaging a lowly 18.8.
Of course there's no guarantee, but he'd probably make us favourites for it.
RVP doesn't look happy at the moment. Maybe in 3 years time it'll be proven to have been a mistake. One can only speculate.
He and us are going through a bad spell of form, so what?
Would you have even signed Ozil without the £24m from RvP and the fact that if you'd kept him he'd likely have been on the wages Ozil is now? Nobody knows, RvP's a smart chap, I doubt he'll regret what he did.
RVP, at the time, clearly made the right decision. We'd still have signed Ozil had he stayed though.
You'd better hope it's a bad run of form, and not something more serious. RVP would expect more than one title to completely alienate himself from Arsenal fans.
How do you know?
Re 1st Point - thanks for that wasn't aware of that statistic, clearly his game is tailor-made to just scoring goals now, so in that case as long as he's being provided with chances to score he should be content... can't say too many performances like yesterday would please even a goalscorer though.
As for the second point, I don't there is a tactical reason behind that, but perhaps more of a personality issue. You get the feeling RVP plays within himself slightly when Rooney is in the side, as he is the more placid of the two and less likely to grab the ball of Rooney for example at free-kicks. Until they both click as friends or at least enjoy each others company to a degree, we're unlikely to see them both reach their full potential in front of goal. Its kind of like seeing Ibra and Cavani.. but the difference here is that our pair are a higher class of footballer and in theory they both tactically should link up pretty well, one operates slightly deeper and the other is more of a poacher, as well as being able to swap round and do it the other way. The more they get used to seeing each other as colleagues and less as rivals, the better for United and for themselves.
He would be brilliant in the current Arsenal set-up, and they would have the best team in the League if he was there. Some people might argue they have the best team already. They definitely do in my view if we consider the importance of the collective in a team. They have an identity and a style, the other top teams often look like strangers (albeit very talented strangers) alongside each other. Flamini and Ozil will be huge for them, and if they had gotten Suarez too, they'd piss on everyone.
Possibly but it's silly to think they would've gotten Ozil AND Suarez the same summer for the amounts talked about, I think they had enough for one big signing, it turned out to be Ozil but I doubt they would've gone for him had they managed to get the Uruguayan in the first place.
Wenger had approximately 80 million to spend this summer so it isn't quite far fetched to think that he could have bought Ozil and Suarez. They bid 40+ for Suarez and Ozil cost just above that. Would have been within budget in terms of transfer money and with the amount of players who left in the summer, the wages may not have been an issue as well. If they're still in reach of the title by January I expect Wenger to purchase another top player to take them through. RVP in this current Arsenal setup would have been something to see though.
Imagine if RVP says that in his heart, there is still a little flame burning for Arsenal and that Wenger tries to sign him back.
I honestly believe that RVP would have preferred to win his first Premier League medal with Arsenal. Things obviously didn't work out that way for him but he seems like the guy who still sits on his couch and watch all their games. But for Wenger re-signing him...no chance of that.
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Imagine if they signed Messi too!
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He was only joking, leave the Frenchie alone.
Criminal how little of the ball he is seeing. It is having a negative effect on his game. He isn't as decisive as last season. He is still the classiest player on the pitch by a mile.
I just wanted to get in there before someone else started complaining that Moyes' presence is causing RVP to consider his future.
It was his first start after injury so I wouldn't read much into his performance. He'll be back banging in the goals once he gains a little more sharpness and match time.
Someone "else" ?
We are creating nothing much for him.
things will click.... Moyes just needs to try out all his little experiments until he realises playing a front six of RVP/Rooney/Nani/Kagawa(Valencia)/Carrick and Fellaini (when he starts expressing himself) will bring us a lot of joy
Why are we looking for small things to complain about? Off the top of my head, we created two chances for him last night. Cleverley made a great pass to Van Persie, which was our first chance and he failed to take advantage. The second chance came late on, when Rafael passed it to him in the box. For a team that set up to defend and hit on the counter, there's a different perception that one should take. Sure, you can criticise the service, but you can only do that if we're playing open football, like we do at home. But when you play with a low defensive line, the onus is on the striker to take at least one of the chances. Not criticising for Van Persie for the defeat. I'm just viewing things from a different perspective...
Like I said re Hernandez not too long ago I'm reluctant to criticise the forwards much. They often get to hide behind the "no service" excuse but in this case it's definitely true. They're feeding of scraps.
I have definitely sensed friction between him and Rooney though. Just saying...
In the league he's averaging more shots/game than last season, despite tougher fixtures and only playing 20 mins vs West Brom.
Besides, 6 games is not enough data to draw conclusions from.
Besides, 6 games is not enough data to draw conclusions from.
RVP is already a hero here for last season. Such was the importance of his goals
Depends what he does in the next 4. Obviously he wont be able to live off of one season for us
Do you seriously think he gives a feck that he's alienated himself from Arsenal fans? Does any player these days really care what fans think of him, especially when he's left. He gives not one single feck what Arsenal fans think of him. He joined the biggest club in the country, won a title Arsenal couldn't give him and takes home a quite tasty wage packet. I'd say he's happy enough.
He joined one of the biggest clubs in the country on its decline.
I reckon he does care, yes. He saunters around the pitch now, playing whilst injured, in front of Afroman and he's expected to weave his magic on his own to win games.
He won a league title. He was great. But is he happy? He doesn't look it. He probably thought he'd have 3 years of Ferguson, at which point he could leave having won 3 PLs and a CL, and it'd be great.
Instead, he's playing for a team now undergoing transition - something he joined United to avoid. Meanwhile, Arsenal have Mesut Ozil and Santi Cazorla in the team. He could have had 40 goals with them behind him. He could have been a hero for us and led us as captain to a title. No wonder he can't smile.
feck off, we're not dead yet. What a great big pile of wishful thinking (and horse shit) that post is.
It wasn't entirely serious, but if we win the league this year, Robin made a mistake. Simple as that.Arsenal win the league this year?
They'll be back in 5th place come the end of November.
They'll be back in 5th place come the end of November.
I tell you what - you try to get into mid-table before you start preaching.
Only if you win a trophy before you start writing up our Epitaph.
Laughs at United for being 12th after a handful of games, hasn't seen his team win a trophy since Methuselah was a lad.
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