The freekick was brilliant. Would have gone straight in had not Jones somehow managed to defend it out 
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.Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances
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Aye, we created nothing. Only chance I remember was from Rooney's pass where he shot wide.
The freekick was brilliant. Would have gone straight in had not Jones somehow managed to defend it out
Yeah I was also thinking that. He's not at the level he was earlier in the season and the goals have dried up but he's still getting involved with creating for the team at least. He just needs the one goal, if he gets one and a bit of confidence he will probably go on to score 5-6 more before the end of the season.
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His all round play is still great, but strikers are judged on goals. You don't score for a while, you are a poor player all of a sudden
Yep, he had ridiculously high standards at the start of the season. He's still involved in most of our good play but the goals have dried up. As you said, all he needs is a goal imo.
The missed chance from the cross was just bad luck because it just bounced up off his other leg but the shot in the first half was absurd, he loves shooting from tight angles but it doesn't work all that often. And then he had a ridiculous attempt at a volley from just outside the box. That's my only complaint with him, he takes on the difficult shots far too often.
This whole feeding off scraps thing after every game is getting tiresome. He's just out of goal scoring form and there's no point denying it. He has been like this since about February. He has two or three decent chances in most games - including both legs against Madrid - that he would have buried earlier in the season. I'm sure a goal will change things and get his confidence back but blaming everyone else is just avoiding the issue.
I know, but 30 games in the League, almost 50 games into the season, how would a lack of pre-season affect him or the team?
I didn't mind that. He's good enough to sometimes pull it off unlike most other players who try similar. If anything it annoys me more that someone like Rooney doesn't take on things like that more often.
Main issue I had with him last night was that he kept playing the ball to the side of him where the space wasn't and fecking up any chance we had to create something before City re-grouped. It was like he wasn't even looking. Welbeck did the same thing early on when he could have played us in on goal.
I don't mind the odd poor performance or run of form though. It happens. The only thing that's irked me about him this season was that feeble little speech before the Chelsea game about how tired "we" were and how it'd be impossible to play well...how fecking stupid do you have to be to come out and say that BEFORE the game and before the season is finished? Even if it's true, he shouldn't even be thinking it, let alone saying it...let alone saying it on behalf of the squad...gives a little insight maybe into why he's mysteriously started playing like shite.
There was also another one the same week where he was still sulking about Madrid and how unfair it was...And yet he's also in the press all the time heaping praise upon ourselves when we haven't won anything yet.
I like him a lot as a player, but it concerns me that he's been brought in as some kind of squad leader, when he seems to possess the attitude of someone who would get shouted at and told to shut up a lot by someone who was actually a leader.
Why do you think he was brought in to be a 'squad leader'? We've got many older, more successful, more experienced players to do that. He was brought in to win us the league back and he's done that with his form earlier in the season.
No-one should be surprised by John anymore, he is the most embarassing, hysterical poster in the United Forum, and will only ever post about things in relation to Rooney. Even now, in his ridiculous criticism of RVP, it's there to compare against or highlight the injustices Wayne faces from club and fans. I'm sure he cries as he types his posts.
That shot that he "dragged wide" last night would have had to have been pretty special to go in from that angle. can't really class that as a goalscoring opportunity. Very speculative, but good play, especially from Rooney. Other than that, he was very limited to what he could do up top, but as usual, his holding up play was magnificent. He just seems impossible to tackle, controlling very difficult balls and giving the ball to team mate. The free kick was excellent too.
My only gripe of him last night, and it's very trivial, but his corner kicks were poorer than usual. He usually gets them in relatively low and hard, but he was scooping them in like a rugby conversion, giving defenders plenty of time to judge the flight of the ball. His delivery is often very good, and it's no coincidence we've scored from alot more set pieces this season than normal. He was knocking in some real floaters though.
His goal drought doesn't bother me, because he provides all over the pitch, and is a very complete player. I also don't think his lack of goals is completely down to him. Our creative players seem to have hit a bit of a wall, and we can't expect Robin to be scoring the goals all by himself. He needs the supply. Now would be a fine time for Nani or Valencia to step up. Nani has a knack of contributing to the run-in. He was very good during last seasons final few games, so hopefully he can come in and start giving Robin the opportunities.
My only gripe of him last night, and it's very trivial, but his corner kicks were poorer than usual. He usually gets them in relatively low and hard, but he was scooping them in like a rugby conversion, giving defenders plenty of time to judge the flight of the ball. His delivery is often very good, and it's no coincidence we've scored from alot more set pieces this season than normal. He was knocking in some real floaters though.
His goal drought doesn't bother me, because he provides all over the pitch, and is a very complete player. I also don't think his lack of goals is completely down to him. Our creative players seem to have hit a bit of a wall, and we can't expect Robin to be scoring the goals all by himself. He needs the supply. Now would be a fine time for Nani or Valencia to step up. Nani has a knack of contributing to the run-in. He was very good during last seasons final few games, so hopefully he can come in and start giving Robin the opportunities.
Whenever I see van Persie play I see him starved of the ball in the final third unless he's got his back to goal. He's just not getting any opportunities, hence why he's shooting from stupid angles and taking on absurd volleys. Whether that's RVP's positioning at fault or the team not giving him anything is another matter.
Would have scored last night had Jones not headed the free-kick.
The delivery for that was superb.
Reckon he was going for goal personally, and a bloody good attempt it was too!
Because he's one of the older players in the squad and was pretty obviously bought in for his experience as well as ability.
I don't want to hear one of our senior players bitching to the media about being tired and unable to play well, or praising himself and all of his team mates for being winners before they've even won anything, or a month after a game we lost, still coming out and whining about how unfair it was.
I find it all a bit pathetic. He should be one of those telling other players in the squad to sort their shit out when they start thinking or saying these things, not acting as some kind of one man public ringleader of it.
Honestly, it's very difficult to judge Van Persie. The team as a whole has been so disjointed and poor recently that it's unrealistic to expect a striker to just rise above that and keep banging in the goals. He barely gets any chances; our crossing is awful, we don't do through balls, that kind of radical shit is not our thing and our players don't really go on mazy runs to disrupt the opposition.
When Van Persie gets the ball, he usually uses it effectively. He's not in great form, he's not even in good form but the service he's getting is abysmal. Yes, he missed a clear chance at Stamford Bridge and at the Bernabeu. Apart from those I can't even remember a lot of clear-cut opportunities he might have had.
When Van Persie gets the ball, he usually uses it effectively. He's not in great form, he's not even in good form but the service he's getting is abysmal. Yes, he missed a clear chance at Stamford Bridge and at the Bernabeu. Apart from those I can't even remember a lot of clear-cut opportunities he might have had.
I reckon so too. If Phil Jones' massive head hadn't have fluffed it onto Vincent Kompany's massive head, I think it was pinging straight in. It would have been a screamer, and we'd all be in full-on RVP wank-mode.
We just are not playing to how rvp likes the ball.
The crosses in are shit and we never give the ball to feet In the box.
It's no suprise the goals are drying up, Rooney didnt have any decent chances either so you can't say it's just rvp missing
The crosses in are shit and we never give the ball to feet In the box.
It's no suprise the goals are drying up, Rooney didnt have any decent chances either so you can't say it's just rvp missing
I loved the backheel to Rooney in the first half on the counter. Sexy stuff.
Because the way pre-seasons (at least at big clubs that will be faring in different competitions) are constructed help the players hit top form around this time of the year, maybe a bit earlier, around February. Which is why it's not surprising we're often strong finishers, and it usually doesn't really matter if we're still fighting in CL, league and a domestic cup til late in the season, physically the players can take it.
It's the difference with smaller clubs who usually run out of steam in the second part of the season but physically their players are in their best form towards the beginning of the season. Their pre-season training is designed to help them hit the ground running.
To use a metaphor, our players run over the course of a season like a diesel car.
Hadn't especially thought about that point for Van Persie, but it's quite true. He looks quite tired at the moment, I wouldn't mind it if he was rested this weekend and had time to focus in training (maybe lighter physical training) and come back stronger.
Actually I think Rooney having gone missing has a lot to do with RvP not getting enough chances anymore.
I felt through RvP strongest parts of the season Rooney was also at his best and provided some great chances for RvP.
Have to agree. He's been on his own a little in the last few games.
Love to see him paired with Kagawa, with Rooney dropping back to midfield
I'm starting to feel really sorry for RvP.
Time after time I see him with his arm up shouting for the ball in a good position in acres of space but he's not getting enough early balls. When he finally does get the ball, it's too late & the opposition defenders have filled in the space & he can't doing anything with it.
His great skill is finding space & this is being wasted because he doesn't receive the ball when he wants/needs it & the moment is gone.
Sort this out & he will start scoring again, no doubt about it.
Time after time I see him with his arm up shouting for the ball in a good position in acres of space but he's not getting enough early balls. When he finally does get the ball, it's too late & the opposition defenders have filled in the space & he can't doing anything with it.
His great skill is finding space & this is being wasted because he doesn't receive the ball when he wants/needs it & the moment is gone.
Sort this out & he will start scoring again, no doubt about it.
If he actually starts scoring the sitters he misses he will start scoring again really! 
If he actually starts scoring the sitters he misses he will start scoring again really!
He very rarely gets a sitter (or easy chance) at all that is the main problem, his couple of big misses aside.
I tried to tell someone this the other day and they were arguing that RvP was scoring regularly even at the end of last season. Well here you go, he wasn't.
Positive thing is that if history repeats itself, he will get a goal in the 8th minute against Stoke!
It is frustrating to see him not score, yes, but I don't think we should be too concerned. He has had a great first season here by anyone's standards (would've been brilliant had we gone further in the CL and FA Cup). We've just about wrapped up the league so I'm not really concerned too much... just hope he gets a good break and starts it off all again next season.
I tried to tell someone this the other day and they were arguing that RvP was scoring regularly even at the end of last season. Well here you go, he wasn't.
Positive thing is that if history repeats itself, he will get a goal in the 8th minute against Stoke!
He scored 4 goals in his last 6 league games so let's hope he finishes with a similar record here.
Give him the ball to feet more often I say, shit crosses wont set up anyone.
Had no idea about that, as I doubt there was any stories about it last season. Now some people try to say it like RvP has only been ok as a whole this season and not a top signing.I tried to tell someone this the other day and they were arguing that RvP was scoring regularly even at the end of last season. Well here you go, he wasn't.
Positive thing is that if history repeats itself, he will get a goal in the 8th minute against Stoke!
I tried to tell someone this the other day and they were arguing that RvP was scoring regularly even at the end of last season. Well here you go, he wasn't.
Positive thing is that if history repeats itself, he will get a goal in the 8th minute against Stoke!
And if he doesn't score by the 10th minute is he finished?
What from my post suggested he would be?
I should have added a smiley, I was joking, attempting to parody the ridiculous polarization in this thread, not your post.
RvP has had his chances. He's just hit a bad patch of shooting form, a fate which befalls all scorers from time to time. I'm pretty sure when Messi hits the age of 29-30 he'll go four or five games without a goal.
trying to remember when we have slotted him in on goal with a through ball - seems a lot of his chances are half chances, volleys or long range shots lately?
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