Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances

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trying to remember when we have slotted him in on goal with a through ball - seems a lot of his chances are half chances, volleys or long range shots lately?

Yeah he's not getting much service but he's also not done well when he has had a few decent opps. The one against Real is the one that sticks in my mind. I think he'll be happy for a fresh start next season. I say give Chich more starts for now.
 
I finally changed my work password from Persie20 today. I believe this is the reason for his drought so you can thank me when he hits the onion bag.

Chicha14 might not score for a while though.
 
Can't believe he's getting criticism. No RVP, not title in my opinion.

He's certainly responsible for saving us earlier the season, when we were leaking goals, and he was always managing to help us outscore the opponent. It is a little disappointing he's not scoring now, but I think the issue is with the whole team. It seems like our momentum is shot to bits and the team just isn't playing well. It's a real grind at the moment, and we're lacking flow and assertiveness to create chances for him to put away.
 
He's certainly responsible for saving us earlier the season, when we were leaking goals, and he was always managing to help us outscore the opponent. It is a little disappointing he's not scoring now, but I think the issue is with the whole team. It seems like our momentum is shot to bits and the team just isn't playing well. It's a real grind at the moment, and we're lacking flow and assertiveness to create chances for him to put away.

I really don't know how our momentum can be shot to bits, considering we're on the brink of a 20th league title. If that is the case, the players need to get they're act together. The Madrid game was hard to take, but it's not like it was a CL semi final or a final itself.
 
I really don't know how our momentum can be shot to bits, considering we're on the brink of a 20th league title. If that is the case, the players need to get they're act together. The Madrid game was hard to take, but it's not like it was a CL semi final or a final itself.

I think it's the manner in which we were knocked out that has affected the squad so badly but so far that game definitely looks like the turning point of our season. All was rosy prior to it (even though we'd played shit in some games, admittedly, I'm talking about the larger picture), and it does seem to have deeply affected the morale of the squad.
 
trying to remember when we have slotted him in on goal with a through ball - seems a lot of his chances are half chances, volleys or long range shots lately?

Sunderland on the 90th minute plus had chances other games. As much as i like Welbeck and Hernandez we have better options I'd like to see Rooney up top if RVP is on the bench he has a point to prove and I wouldn't back against him.
 
trying to remember when we have slotted him in on goal with a through ball - seems a lot of his chances are half chances, volleys or long range shots lately?

I guess, but what surprised me about most of them is that he didn't even hit the target. I mean in the Madrid game (maybe in both games actually), he had two chances which could have tested the goalkeeper but he completely missed the two.

But I'm sure he'll hit form soon.
 
He has certainly dipped in form. So it is expected to be discussed.

Isn't there a difference between expressing disappointment about a dip in form and criticising him for his contribution? This is a player that was compared to Cantona just a month ago.

"Robin is in his first season here and I hope he'll have the same impact as Eric Cantona," he said. "Eric, when he walked through the door, became instantly stronger, prouder, more brilliant. He became even more majestic than before, his head still higher. It became clear to the other players: pass him the ball!

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If we win trophies this season, you could say Robin will have taken Man United to a higher level, just like Eric did."
 
I hate the way media talking about his season, like in totalt he will only have had an ok season and that he has all to prove next year.
Seriously, is there anyone here who feel disappointed with him? It's so easy to forget how much he did for us regarding goals and assists until february.
All players expect Messi and Ronaldo has a time during every year they dip in form. Get on with it and accept it.
RvP is world class.
 
I hate the way media talking about his season, like in totalt he will only have had an ok season and that he has all to prove next year.
Seriously, is there anyone here who feel disappointed with him? It's so easy to forget how much he did for us regarding goals and assists until february.
All players expect Messi and Ronaldo has a time during every year they dip in form. Get on with it and accept it.
RvP is world class.

He is but I still think people are too quick to be defensive of him, a bit like when someone criticizes DDG or Kagawa.

2 of those are new signings and they tend to be defended quicker to avoid feeling like the money wasn't wisely spent, although on both accounts I think it was good business for you.

Regardless or what he did earlier in this season I dont understand why people get so precious over the factual notion that RVP is in poor form. Hes an out and out striker, even if his build up play has been good, hes in poor form. That doesn't make him any less of a world class player, unless he decides to go all Torres on you.
 
I hate the way media talking about his season, like in totalt he will only have had an ok season and that he has all to prove next year.

I said this awhile ago, and in light of his failure against Madrid it's even more glaring. RVP has done very little at either sharp end of the Champions League or in international tournaments. He's a fine player, but next season is going to be huge for determining his overall legacy in the game.
 
I think RvP is a world class player, and I'm not dissapointed by him in the least.
I just think a lot of people give him too much benefit of the doubt compared to other players (namely Rooney).
Imagine if Rooney started pretty much every game and went 10 games straight without a goal up front, a lot of people would be raving mad, suggesting we should sell him and things of such sort.

I appreciate everything RvP has done and he did arguably score when it was most important (when our defense was total crap), I just think those proclaiming RvP to be "obviously" the better player compared to Rooney were premature with their comments.

People should get it in their heads that unless you're Messi or Ronaldo you ARE human and you ARE going to have dips in form. I acknowledge those dips with every one of our players, but unless those dips are more frequent than anything else I will try to focus more on the positives, and both RvP and Rooney (among others) have done us a lot of good this season.

We obviously know how good both players can be (that's why they're both world class), and we know they can't play at their very best every game, so really what's the deal?
 
Isn't there a difference between expressing disappointment about a dip in form and criticising him for his contribution? This is a player that was compared to Cantona just a month ago.

What an over the top comparison. Was it SAF who said that? Hes come out with a lot of OTT comments about RVP to be honest. The latest being the "fantastic" comment after the City game.
 
I still think it was those missed chances in Madrid that have hurt RVP. It's funny because for me that game was one of his best games for us.

Hope he starts tomorrow. The answer for an out of form striker as good as him, is to keep playing him.
 
I still think it was those missed chances in Madrid that have hurt RVP. It's funny because for me that game was one of his best games for us.

Hope he starts tomorrow. The answer for an out of form striker as good as him, is to keep playing him.

Playing out of form players for extended periods is something we're good at this season anyway so RvP will definitely play tomorrow.
 
I really don't know how our momentum can be shot to bits, considering we're on the brink of a 20th league title. If that is the case, the players need to get they're act together. The Madrid game was hard to take, but it's not like it was a CL semi final or a final itself.

May as well have been, it's not as if there would have been many tougher games left in the competition and if we'd got the draw Madrid got then you'd have been crazy to bet against us progressing.
 
Playing out of form players for extended periods is something we're good at this season anyway so RvP will definitely play tomorrow.

Probably because it is the right thing to do. Good examples would be both Carrick and Rooney who have both benefited from getting game whilst in poor form.

If the player is good/important enough it should be the case.
 
Probably because it is the right thing to do. Good examples would be both Carrick and Rooney who have both benefited from getting game whilst in poor form.

If the player is good/important enough it should be the case.

Carrick usually needs a run to get him going at the start of the season and in Rooney's case it's usually when coming back from injury to bring him back to form. RvPs case is a bizarre one because he's lost form in the middle of a long run of games so maybe he is tired/jaded and could do with a rest. I'm sure someone said Wenger sent him for a two week holiday last season.
 
Carrick usually needs a run to get him going at the start of the season and in Rooney's case it's usually when coming back from injury to bring him back to form. RvPs case is a bizarre one because he's lost form in the middle of a long run of games so maybe he is tired/jaded and could do with a rest. I'm sure someone said Wenger sent him for a two week holiday last season.

that's true, however I remember RvP himself saying that he doesn't want to get rested, he wants to play every game, and given his great start at United I think Ferguson decided to listen to him and just keep playing him.
Whether or not he's tired at the moment I've no clue, but I do know that this is basicaly what RvP was asking for.
 
I think it's safe to say from that celebration that the goal drought was playing on his mind...
 
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