Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances

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Brilliant post match interview on MUTV.
"I am enjoying being surrounded by Champions. Everyone working hard for eachother. It's a real pleasure playing in this team." (para-phrased)

He really wants that 20th title, doesn't he?

His relentless hunger is there for all to see and if he continues like this, no other player will deserve that title more this man.
 
Summed up his first goal today perfectly.

"It was a good goal because every single touch was the right one."
 
He wasn't this good for Arsenal... was he?

Yes, he was.

What we remember most about RvP in his Arsenal days was his torrid time with injuries. He'd have an amazing game, then he'd be out for 6 months with some injury picked up on international duty. I recall a really nasty ankle injury he picked up against Italy. Crazy stuff. But then about a year ago he began his shredding of the English prem, which has not abated since he came to Old Trafford.
 
He wasn't this good for Arsenal... was he?

Yes. He was probably just as good last season as he is now. Arguably he did even better then because he wasn't playing with a side as good as the one he's playing with now.
 
He was really gushing in the interview. Moreso than I can convey, without a full transcript. He also said he wants us to score more goals, in games like this. :D

Can't wait to see it mate. Don't think it's up on Youtube yet anyway.
 
I knew he was good and id see his goals most weeks on Match Of The Day but his all round play is much better than I thought, pretty much everything he does is top class even his corners are brilliant.
 
He carried Arsenal a lot, so I'd say so yeah.

He's just playing with better players, he's unbelievable.

Yes, he was.

What we remember most about RvP in his Arsenal days was his torrid time with injuries. He'd have an amazing game, then he'd be out for 6 months with some injury picked up on international duty. I recall a really nasty ankle injury he picked up against Italy. Crazy stuff. But then about a year ago he began his shredding of the English prem, which has not abated since he came to Old Trafford.

Yes. He was probably just as good last season as he is now. Arguably he did even better then because he wasn't playing with a side as good as the one he's playing with now.

He was widely regarded as the best player in the league for 1 or 2 years already, before he came here.

So that's a firm yes then? :lol:
 
At the end of the day he's matching Ronaldo's goal output while being a notably better passer and set piece taker. He's not that quite the all-round goalscoring threat in the sense that he can't score in as many different ways - lacking that searing pace to get in behind or that towering leap to score in the air - but give him the ball in and around the box and he's every bit as lethal, and he offers that bit more in the build-up.
Nah, Ronaldo contributed more to our attacking game than RVP does. Firstly just for the sake that every opposition team were shit-scared of him and were half-beaten before they came out, but also his dribbling and ability to constantly find space to receive the ball in attacking areas or as an outlet put him at another level. His overall contribution to our attacking play was amazing.

RVP is fantastic but it's more on the level of Rooney, not Ronaldo.
 
RVP is fantastic but it's more on the level of Rooney, not Ronaldo.

I'd have to disagree with this. I think RVP gives us a fear factor that we haven't had since Ronaldo left.
 
Nah, Ronaldo contributed more to our attacking game than RVP does. Firstly just for the sake that every opposition team were shit-scared of him and were half-beaten before they came out, but also his dribbling and ability to constantly find space to receive the ball in attacking areas or as an outlet put him at another level. His overall contribution to our attacking play was amazing.

RVP is fantastic but it's more on the level of Rooney, not Ronaldo.

Rooney is a fantastic footballer and a very important player to our system, but RVP is on that higher level, I think.

I completely agree and said it a few pages back that he's having a Ronaldo-like impact on the team this season. In fact, we've been calling out for a player like RVP since Ronaldo left.
 
RVP is fantastic but it's more on the level of Rooney, not Ronaldo.

The first I have disagreed with your post. I think RVP can play himself into the level of Ronaldo and Messi and can seriously be considered for WPOY.
I have never thought Rooney was on that level ever. Rooney does not seems to want that for himself, the ability is there, but something just holds Rooney back from that determination to be the best at all cost.
 
Quotes in full from official site

“This is a special team,” he told MUTV. “Everybody wants to help each other. Everybody's keen for everyone to score. Defenders are working their socks off for the midfielders, the midfielders are working for the strikers... everybody wants to run and everybody has one target in their mind.

“We have to look at it game by game but everybody wants to be champions. I feel that I'm surrounded by champions. They know how to win and that makes it really easy for me.”

“[Javier and I] scored two goals each and he gave a really good pass for my first goal. It was a good goal because every single touch was the right touch, in my opinion.

“The first one was a little behind me and I had to drag it onto my left foot. That was agood touch. Then I waited for the guy to slide in, had a good touch inside and then a quick finish. Three touches but all good touches.”

“It was a very good performance we scored the goals at the right time. We've played Wigan twice this year and won 4-0 both times, so that's good for goal difference.

“Everybody's helping each other and everybody wants to share the goals. Look at the last goal – Danny wanted to give the ball to me so I could score. Everybody's like that. I'm like that, Chicha is like that... everybody wants to share the goals and that, in my opinion, is the way to score heaps of goals.

“Hopefully we can keep it going. We’ve had a couple of games where we've had high scores but we want to score even more goals because that could be vital come the end of the season.”
 
Just reading Bluemoons thread on RVP, where do they get this shit from:

we hand him in the bag he wanted to come, but we *ucked about over the fee the rags offered £2million more and possibly bought the title tipping player in the process. There wasn't a Rags, or nowt issue here, simply some piss poor negotiating from our club.
Is that straight from the horses mouth Mr VOOMER? Are you saying that we wanted 5 top (or expensive, depending on how you see it) strikers on our books?
In a word yes, it was the fee, he was coming and the rags increased there fee and we didn't. RVP would be in a City shirt if our current CEO had been in charge.
 
Funny stuff. Van Persie held all the cards, he would have gone where he wanted to go in all cases. Arsenal would have preferred him to go to City so I don't think they'd change their mind over 2M.
 
Quotes in full from official site

“This is a special team,” he told MUTV. “Everybody wants to help each other. Everybody's keen for everyone to score. Defenders are working their socks off for the midfielders, the midfielders are working for the strikers... everybody wants to run and everybody has one target in their mind.

“We have to look at it game by game but everybody wants to be champions. I feel that I'm surrounded by champions. They know how to win and that makes it really easy for me.”

“[Javier and I] scored two goals each and he gave a really good pass for my first goal. It was a good goal because every single touch was the right touch, in my opinion.

“The first one was a little behind me and I had to drag it onto my left foot. That was agood touch. Then I waited for the guy to slide in, had a good touch inside and then a quick finish. Three touches but all good touches.”

“It was a very good performance we scored the goals at the right time. We've played Wigan twice this year and won 4-0 both times, so that's good for goal difference.

“Everybody's helping each other and everybody wants to share the goals. Look at the last goal – Danny wanted to give the ball to me so I could score. Everybody's like that. I'm like that, Chicha is like that... everybody wants to share the goals and that, in my opinion, is the way to score heaps of goals.

“Hopefully we can keep it going. We’ve had a couple of games where we've had high scores but we want to score even more goals because that could be vital come the end of the season.”

I think he quite likes it here.
 
The first I have disagreed with your post. I think RVP can play himself into the level of Ronaldo and Messi and can seriously be considered for WPOY.
I have never thought Rooney was on that level ever. Rooney does not seems to want that for himself, the ability is there, but something just holds Rooney back from that determination to be the best at all cost.

RVP isn't going to play himself into being seriously considered because he's light years behind Messi. Ronaldo is on a different level to him, but to even suggest he'd seriously challenge Messi for WPOTY is nonsense.
 
Funny stuff. Van Persie held all the cards, he would have gone where he wanted to go in all cases. Arsenal would have preferred him to go to City so I don't think they'd change their mind over 2M.

After the amount of pillaging that City have done to Arsenal over the last few years, I don't think they actually would have preferred a City exit.
 
Still doesn't change the fact that we need some quality in midfield but if we manage to get a really good player there this team will be damn scary for any opponent.

To be fair though so far Carrick is having the season of his life IMO, and cleverley has stepped it up in the last few games.

Anderson was playing great til he got injured, i agree we need more depth with scholes / giggs on the way out, but i dont think it was a desperate desperate need to mean we shouldnt of signed van persie.

Who really could come into our midfield to improve it that isnt already at a top club?
 
Well what do people think would have left us with the better team today:

a) Not signing van Persie, but signing a quality midfielder instead.

or

b) What actually happened, signing van Persie instead of a top midfielder.

People keep saying on here 'yea, I know he's good, but the money would have been better spent on a quality midfielder'. I'm personally not sure it works like that. I mean, despite our 'midfield woes', signing Messi in the summer would have improved us more than signing Schweinsteiger in my view.
 
You can't pass on quality like that. Hard to say if the hypothetical midfielder were of the same quality as RvP.
 
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