Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances

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For a perfect example of this go back to August 17th.

I like it. :D

The way he chose to hit it first time yesterday was actually what I had in mind. And the way he always seem to choose the right technique when finishing.
 
Not having that, RVP's hold up play is second to none.

Why didn't you quote the entire post?
I said finishing and PROBABLY hold up play are the areas where RvN > RvP.
They're both great at holding the ball up so it's a tough call, but I'mma go with RvN on this one, just slightly.
 
What a player he is! I couldnt dare to think where we were without him - and I thought we dont really need him!
 
He's easily worth over 40 millions, now... plus he never moans about going to Spain.

Absolutely proper footballer in United's spirit. We need this type of players at Old Trafford, badly.

The season just started but really - Well Feckin Done, SAF !
 
Played - 10
Scored - 8
Assisted - 3

Not bad at all. I have to admit I didn't expect him to quite hit those heights.

There's no reason to ignore his CL performances, he's done quite well there so far.
 
Oh don't give me that, you know you like to pounce whenever you get a chance to. You find one post where somebody says something irrational and point it out like that's how deluded Rooney fans are.

I agree that he doesn't play like a beast every game, I agree that he's not on Messi or Ronaldo's level, I'm not trying to be unreasonable here, I just find it a bit weird that you feel the need to downplay his skill/importance so often. I'm not a stalker so I know feck all about what else you comment on here, but I know that regarding Rooney you and I can't agree.

I admitted to underrating RvP, there's nothing wrong in admitting you made a mistake. Honestly even though I always rated him, it took me a couple of games in a United shirt from him to really open my eyes.
Although to be fair it is circumstantial, I mean had he come into our squad at a different time opinions might be very different, there's a lot of things to factor in regarding change of opinion like this.

Ah so the original post WAS irrational. Which means my criticism of posters like that WAS valid. Good to know. Cut out the rest of the bullshit next time.
 
He's unreal. Happy we got him for that money - which is looking a smaller amount for every goal he scores.

I hope he can carry on throughout the season eventhough he's already done a fair share.
 
Ah so the original post WAS irrational. Which means my criticism of posters like that WAS valid. Good to know. Cut out the rest of the bullshit next time.

That's the thing though, your criticism of that certain poster was valid although could be presented in a different way, but that's besides the point. What I've been "going at you" for is your sometimes unfair criticism of Rooney and I pointed it out to you several times.
It's like you conveniently leave out parts of what I say and focus on one part where you feel like you can make a point.

Whatever, I'm really in no mood to continue this useless conversation with you, I already made my point several times, it just feels like a broken record right now since you keep making it out to be something else.
 
That's the thing though, your criticism of that certain poster was valid although could be presented in a different way, but that's besides the point. What I've been "going at you" for is your sometimes unfair criticism of Rooney and I pointed it out to you several times.
It's like you conveniently leave out parts of what I say and focus on one part where you feel like you can make a point.

Whatever, I'm really in no mood to continue this useless conversation with you, I already made my point several times, it just feels like a broken record right now since you keep making it out to be something else.

PM me with your "general concerns" regarding my posting. Quoting a valid criticism as if I've "unfairly criticized" a player makes no sense whatsoever. Also, why should I present my valid criticism in a way you're comfortable with?

You're right about this conversation, though.
 
I'd say even Rooney is wishing he's as good as Van Peirse, but knowing Rooney, he's the type that will work even harder now to show he should be the best player in the team.
 
I'd say even Rooney is wishing he's as good as Van Peirse, but knowing Rooney, he's the type that will work even harder now to show he should be the best player in the team.

Not sure Rooney's got that drive to be fair, he's no Ronaldo.
 
I'd say even Rooney is wishing he's as good as Van Peirse, but knowing Rooney, he's the type that will work even harder now to show he should be the best player in the team.

Robin gets to take the plaudits because Rooney has dropped back into midfield and ceded his job as the primary goalscorer.

There are plenty egotistical footballers who wouldn't do what Rooney has done for the good of the team.

I think Rooney has been brilliant for the team so far this season, and he is a better player than RVP was at his age.
 
Rooney physique wise could never be a Ronaldo. They shouldn't be compared.
 
Robin gets to take the plaudits because Rooney has dropped back into midfield and ceded his job as the primary goalscorer.

There are plenty egotistical footballers who wouldn't do what Rooney has done for the good of the team.

I think Rooney has been brilliant for the team so far this season, and he is a better player than RVP was at his age.

This. Although I feel that Rooney's game is just suited when he's the second star of the team and not the main star.
 
I never understand why there is the need to compare them anymore now that they play in the same team and most importantly now they feed off each other.We have two very good players who on their day can be truly great players and we have the chance that there is intelligent enough to combine well together and understand each other on the pitch.
There are some things RVP is better at than Rooney and vice-versa.We're lucky to have them both and also guys like Hernandez (who never whine about his playing time) and a promising Welbeck.The variety of the attackers we have is great
 
I never understand why there is the need to compare them anymore now that they play in the same team and most importantly now they feed off each other.We have two very good players who on their day can be truly great players and we have the chance that there is intelligent enough to combine well together and understand each other on the pitch.
There are some things RVP is better at than Rooney and vice-versa.We're lucky to have them both and also guys like Hernandez (who never whine about his playing time) and a promising Welbeck.The variety of the attackers we have is great

Completely agree, not to mention the fact that Rooney dropped deeper and Van Persie leading the line should mean that Van Persie's going to be the one that scores the most goals, while Rooney stacks up more assists than prior seasons while sacrificing his goal tally a bit.

Incredibily happy with having 2 world class players combining with each other, and I'm guessing we've yet to see the full extent of their understanding, they haven't played together even half a year and they're already linking up great.
 
Cos it gives us something to talk about. It's not that important, but people like to decide who the best player is. They always have and they always will, hence the success of the top players from _____ era threads.
 
Cos it gives us something to talk about. It's not that important, but people like to decide who the best player is. They always have and they always will, hence the success of the top players from _____ era threads.

True but I find it much more understandable when comparing players in the same position. Admittedly though it's not like it bothers me, just don't see how one can acurately compare players in different positions with different roles.
 
You're right actually. It's probably something like

Ronaldo

Van Basten

Romario

Batistuta
Eto'o
Henry
[Van Persie?]
Van Nistelrooy
Shevchenko
Why, or how, do you have Shevchenko at the very bottom of this list?

Also, wouldn't mind hearing your reasoning for why you've listed those below Ronaldo as you have. A major criticism of Van Basten is his failure at the World Cup. That's usually cited as the major blight on him in all-time striker debates when compared with the likes of Puskas, Eusebio, Muller and the like.

Last question is why you have Batistuta where you do? Not that he mightn't deserve the spot, but your reasoning for putting him there interests me.
 
He's easily worth over 40 millions, now... plus he never moans about going to Spain.

Absolutely proper footballer in United's spirit. We need this type of players at Old Trafford, badly.

The season just started but really - Well Feckin Done, SAF !

We should keep buying Dutch players. We've really had some great success there - RVP, RVN, Staam and Van der Sar instantly springing to mind (Jordi Cruyff not so much...)
 
Robin gets to take the plaudits because Rooney has dropped back into midfield and ceded his job as the primary goalscorer.

There are plenty egotistical footballers who wouldn't do what Rooney has done for the good of the team.

I think Rooney has been brilliant for the team so far this season, and he is a better player than RVP was at his age.

Robin gets to take the plaudits because he is the better striker and more clinical finisher. I guess you could say that out of the two Rooney is the better midfielder, but if Rooney was the superior striker, he wouldn't have to switch positions. Rooney playing in a deeper position isn't due to Rooney being less egotistical and the more charitable player, it's only because Robin is the superior forward and Fergie recognizes this fact.
 
Robin gets to take the plaudits because he is the better striker and more clinical finisher. I guess you could say that out of the two Rooney is the better midfielder, but if Rooney was the superior striker, he wouldn't have to switch positions. Rooney playing in a deeper position isn't due to Rooney being less egotistical and the more charitable player, it's only because Robin is the superior forward and Fergie recognizes this fact.

Well it's a bit of both, really. RvP is the better CF (no doubting that), but Rooneys the better all round player, esp in that 3 man midfield role.

Rooney is quite charitable fwiw. Remember all those matches, stuck out wide when Ron was the main man? He's a team player. He'd probably play CB if he was asked to. I'm just happy we have both. Absolute match winners, the both of them.

I think Rooney prefers his current role over playing CF anyway, so good times ahead!
 
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