Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances

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Reason I ask is I'm a bit too young to remember van Basten clearly. I always had the impression from watching old games he was a fox in the box. Well you learn every day!

European player of the year...three times. A phenomenal scoring record in the Series A during its heyday...when defences ruled. Yeah, best I've seen.
 
To be honest, Van Basten's a level above, I reckon he's probably the best out and out striker I've ever seen. But yeah he's very similar, especially technically and movement in the box. He's just so sharp. Anyway I've always rated him....but I didn't think he'd become this good. Suppose you can't really judge, Van der Vaart was supposed to be their most talented youngster since Cruyff...yet...well...you know.

Yeah that's what I thought, no shame in being a level below perhaps the best and most complete striker in the history of the game of course! He's definitely got that touch of Dutch class and elegance about him, and if he can steer clear of injuries in his 30s unlike Van Basten then he's got a good chance of ending up as the all-time top scorer for Holland (10 goals away from Kluivert's record) and the all-time Dutch top scorer in Europe (18 goals away from Kluivert's record) so he'll have the numbers to back it up.

Since the 90s I'd say there's only Ronaldo, Romario, Van Basten, Batistuta and perhaps Henry on the level above him in terms of out-and-out forwards, and he's got a shout for being the next best if he can provide RVN/Shevchenko/Eto'o-level productivity with that superior all-round game.
 
Yeah that's what I thought, no shame in being a level below perhaps the best and most complete striker in the history of the game of course! He's definitely got that touch of Dutch class and elegance about him, and if he can steer clear of injuries in his 30s unlike Van Basten then he's got a good chance of ending up as the all-time top scorer for Holland (10 goals away from Kluivert's record) and the all-time Dutch top scorer in Europe (18 goals away from Kluivert's record) so he'll have the numbers to back it up.

Since the 90s I'd say there's only Ronaldo, Romario, Van Basten, Batistuta and perhaps Henry on the level above him in terms of out-and-out forwards, and he's got a shout for being the next best if he can provide RVN/Shevchenko/Eto'o-level productivity with that superior all-round game.

I think the tackle from behind was outlawed because of Van Basten's career ending injury. As for VP, he's probably at the same level as Ruud, he's clearly more naturally talented but RVN probably had more drive. As for your list Ronaldo, who was so much more than a no.9 and Marco are a level above the others.
 
Watching a game from the 70s is like watching a game in slow motion .


Ah, this old chestnut. Let's save it for another thread!


Yeah that's what I thought, no shame in being a level below perhaps the best and most complete striker in the history of the game of course! He's definitely got that touch of Dutch class and elegance about him, and if he can steer clear of injuries in his 30s unlike Van Basten then he's got a good chance of ending up as the all-time top scorer for Holland (10 goals away from Kluivert's record) and the all-time Dutch top scorer in Europe (18 goals away from Kluivert's record) so he'll have the numbers to back it up.

Since the 90s I'd say there's only Ronaldo, Romario, Van Basten, Batistuta and perhaps Henry on the level above him in terms of out-and-out forwards, and he's got a shout for being the next best if he can provide RVN/Shevchenko/Eto'o-level productivity with that superior all-round game.


Agree with all of that!
 
I think the tackle from behind was outlawed because of Van Basten's career ending injury. As for VP, he's probably at the same level as Ruud, he's clearly more naturally talented but RVN probably had more drive. As for your list Ronaldo, who was so much more than a no.9 and Marco are a level above the others.

RvN is the best finisher I have ever seen. Van Persie is top quality, world class at finishing, but I think he's a tiny mark below Ruud. As players there isn't a lot in them mind you as Van Persie has other strings to his bow. I'd say finishing and hold up player are the only areas he is behind Van Nistelrooy but what he lacked in other areas Ruud made it up big style there.
 
Agree with Pexbo, there's no better finisher I've seen than Ruud. That's not to say Robin isn't clinical as feck, I just think he has a ways to go before we can say he's as good as him.
But finishing and maybe hold up play are the only areas in which Ruud's better than Robin.
 
Reason I ask is I'm a bit too young to remember van Basten clearly. I always had the impression from watching old games he was a fox in the box. Well you learn every day!

Van Basten was shit hot in late 80s, early 90s. The Italian defenders literally ended his career.

When he played, he was not quicksilver fast, was not beastly strong, did not have the most powerful shot (like Batigol) did not have the best dribbles, feints. But he was very "graceful" in his finishing; can't really describe it. Could simply make half a yard of space in the box and finish with either foot, head, and with the ball coming at any angle.

A pure classic finisher. It seems the ball had strings that would 99% end up being pulled in the nets for some reason or another. I've seen him score volley the ball into the ground (on purpose) and the ball lobbed the Italian goalies. Seems hard to imagine, a volleyed into the ground-lobbed over the goalkeeper.
 
It's a tiny bit worrying how he's suddenly become the player who unlocks the doors for us. But we should be grateful we've gained another reliable big game player who makes the difference when it really matters.

In terms of technique, his finishing is up there with the best I've seen at the club.
 
Yeah that's what I thought, no shame in being a level below perhaps the best and most complete striker in the history of the game of course! He's definitely got that touch of Dutch class and elegance about him, and if he can steer clear of injuries in his 30s unlike Van Basten then he's got a good chance of ending up as the all-time top scorer for Holland (10 goals away from Kluivert's record) and the all-time Dutch top scorer in Europe (18 goals away from Kluivert's record) so he'll have the numbers to back it up.

Since the 90s I'd say there's only Ronaldo, Romario, Van Basten, Batistuta and perhaps Henry on the level above him in terms of out-and-out forwards, and he's got a shout for being the next best if he can provide RVN/Shevchenko/Eto'o-level productivity with that superior all-round game.

i'd put eto'o in the class of henry easily with that first group (for me he's better than henry and batigol but that's another debate). Eto'o is the bollocks, tactically flexible, and extremely good all-around while being healthy and consistent.

And i love his attitude.
 
i'd put eto'o in the class of henry easily with that first group (for me he's better than henry and batigol but that's another debate). Eto'o is the bollocks, tactically flexible, and extremely good all-around while being healthy and consistent.

And i love his attitude.

You're right actually. It's probably something like

Ronaldo

Van Basten

Romario

Batistuta
Eto'o
Henry
[Van Persie?]
Van Nistelrooy
Shevchenko
 
You're right actually. It's probably something like

Ronaldo

Van Basten

Romario

Batistuta
Eto'o
Henry
[Van Persie?]
Van Nistelrooy
Shevchenko

Ronaldo

Van Basten

Romario
Henry
Batistuta
Van Persie
Shevchenko
Eto'o
Van nistelrooy
 
That goal he scored.The keeper fecked up but it was still incredibly difficult to score from there.That technique, the way he hit was extremely high quality.Top class finishing from a top class player
 
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That's what I was thinking as well. Del Piero and Raul are greats of the game as well.

Also, Inzaghi should be thrown in the mix as a great out and out forward.

And there's still Vieri, Crespo and Trezeguet. Seria A had quite a few good strikers in the 90s and early 2000s.
 
Fergie scared him off twitter it seems
 
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