Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances
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Ronaldo polished his shooting and became a beast in that aspect but I've never seen anyone hitting it so sweetly and on a consistent basis as Scholes does. He rarely scuffs or skies it.
Yeah, I raise you Scholes Vs. Barcelona 2008
Vs. Aston Villa 2006/07
Vs. Middlesbrough
Vs. Bradford
Vs. Newcastle 2003
Different types of shooting from distance as stated earlier, Ronaldo would never even attempt that volley against Villa.
For me Rooney is still our best and most important player. It's fantastic that we have both of them.
It's fair to say, the Scholes goals mentioned are technically much much more difficult to pull off then Ronaldo's goal against Porto... no matter how impressive it was.
I would say a fair comprimise is that Ronaldo was better at striking a stationary/barely moving ball... but Scholes was better at striking balls coming at him from a variety of different angles.
I would say a fair comprimise is that Ronaldo was better at striking a stationary/barely moving ball... but Scholes was better at striking balls coming at him from a variety of different angles.
This. Scholes is the best at whacking it from lay offs, crosses. Ronaldo's goal against Porto was insane though and doesn't get enough credit. It really was close to impossible.
No way near as good in all fairness, lovely hit though it was.
There's no question for me that Ronaldo has been the best striker of a ball from long range at this club since Sir Bobby. That's not to say Scholesy doesn't strike a sweet ball though.
Agree with that.
And as I said earlier, I think RVP trumps both of them in the variety. Like this....
That's just fecking ridiculous.
I think both Ronaldo and RVP's unorthodox shooting technique will give them the edge over Scholes. Ronaldo mastered the knuckle shot while RVP has this crazy shooting technique with the inside foot that can pack so much power. Scholes maybe the better volleyer and hitting loose balls but what people don't realise is that it is actually harder to hit a ball while on the dribble.
I think more often that not a volley is tougher to be fair. And, I think RVP is the best on the volley.
It depends. It easier to pull a trigger when you prepared a good position for yourself and are at full pelt. That's what Ronaldo loves doing. Easier to generate power certainly. It's a bit more difficult to find the accuracy mind you.
Truly amazing goal...
Though Scholes' volleys against Villa and Bradford are just as impressive in my opinion... (except that there's two of them!
)It depends what sort of volley or dribble a player is on. Something like the RVP volley against Charlton for example was probably a lot more difficult than your average dribble. A perfect cross though with the player in space may be easier than some dribbles, on the other hand.
Though Scholes' volleys against Villa and Bradford are just as impressive in my opinion... (except that there's two of them!
Amazing goals but that RVP one is better, it's ridiculous, just look how high up it is and he's running full pelt. Possibly the best volley I've ever seen.
RVP's volley is class. That's a very difficult finish. Think Scholesy's volleys fall just a tad below RVP's finish there. Scholesy's volleys are lauded not only for his technique but his consistency with them.
I still think one of Paul's greatest goals was that 2008 semi against Barcelona. It looked easy but attempting such a shot had a much higher possibility of going off target than on. He couldn't have hit it any sweeter.
I still think one of Paul's greatest goals was that 2008 semi against Barcelona. It looked easy but attempting such a shot had a much higher possibility of going off target than on. He couldn't have hit it any sweeter.
Good shout that is exactly as i would have predicted. All being well of course.
I have to agree with that in terms of technical difficulty. The vast majority of players could have a 100 goes at that in practice and never even once hit the target! i would predict at least 1 in 2 fresh air shots in there too!
Everything about it was incredible. The pace he was running at, the height of the ball, the athleticism in adjusting his body to match the trajectory, the ability to not only strike it so sweetly but to get over the top of it. A truly astonishing finish really, and one that gets better and better the more you watch it. I can honestly say i don't think i have ever seen anyone else score one quite like it.
Comes off cuntface's shin.
Hehehe, that wasn't your conclusion back in 2007:
https://www.redcafe.net/f7/goal-season-158874/#post3357340
What has changed?
Oh yeah.
Hehehe, that wasn't your conclusion back in 2007:
https://www.redcafe.net/f7/goal-season-158874/#post3357340
What has changed?
Oh yeah.
classic!Hehehe, that wasn't your conclusion back in 2007:
https://www.redcafe.net/f7/goal-season-158874/#post3357340
What has changed?
Oh yeah.
Shows how pathetic and bitter he is
I said it looked like a miss-hit there too and subsequently in posts you've not quoted (like Rooney's o/head v City). Of course my puzzlement at the player quoting it as his best is now explained by him being a duplicitous bastard.
Technique wise, I think he has been the best player in the league for a good five years.
The goal against Charlton was outstanding but there was one against Watford (?) the same season which was quality.
Hehehe, that wasn't your conclusion back in 2007:
https://www.redcafe.net/f7/goal-season-158874/#post3357340
What has changed?
Oh yeah.
Great find. Someone's not bitter!Let pete be. He has every right to be bitter.
Imagine the meltdown in this place if Rooney joined Arsenal and started scoring for fun.
Mind you, its still hilarious.
Imagine the meltdown in this place if Rooney joined Arsenal and started scoring for fun.
Mind you, its still hilarious.
No. Robin is superb and everything we've needed for years. Our first real striker since Ruud's departure who can live up to the brilliance that was Van The Man.
Imagine our side if Ronaldo was still here. Robin, Ronaldo and Nani in one team - how awesome would that have been?
He's not. And I'm glad Robin has put him in his place.
No. Robin is superb and everything we've needed for years. Our first real striker since Ruud's departure who can live up to the brilliance that was Van The Man.
Imagine our side if Ronaldo was still here. Robin, Ronaldo and Nani in one team - how awesome would that have been?
He's not. And I'm glad Robin has put him in his place.
I'm sorry but bar the 'Robin is superb' this is rubbish.
As much as I would rate Van Persie slightly higher, it's kind of annoying to see the opinion suddenly change now he's joined us. 6 months ago the general consensus here would've been that Rooney was better. Some here have only started to appreciate Van Persie now he's joined us unfortunately.
How is this rubbish? Robin is our most lethal striker since Ruud (I love Ronaldo but he is not a striker).
Robin, Ronaldo and Nani are spectacular and it would have been a pleasure to see them together in our side.
And Van Persie is in my eyes a much better striker and player than Rooney who is massively overrated.
No, it has not. I always said and thought Rooney was overrated. And I've always praised RVP's shooting technique. My only small 'issue' was his history with injuries but even considering this I was very happy with our signing.
Maybe not in your case, but I remember seeing a comparison thread in the football forum between the two of them a few months back. I was in the minority, by quite a distance, in saying RVP was better than Rooney. Most said Rooney offered much more as a footballer, was comfortably the better player, was a one season wonder, and you were daft to consider RVP as better. Skip forward a few months and everyones bandwagons that RVP is better due to Rooney's poor form and bias due to Van Persie playing for us. I don't disagree that RVP's better, but it's a bit nauseating and funny to read at the same time.
Where to begin with...First of all, putting Nani in one row with RvP and Ronaldo is like adding Cleverley to Xavi-Iniesta duo. You'd be for example much better of putting Rooney there who, to the contrary of what you might have read here some time ago, is a much better footballer.
Secondly, how has Van Persie put Rooney in his place? You're talking about the guy who apart from the contract circus never let us down and has been a terrific servant to the club. He showed greater promise than Ronaldo till they were 22/23, then when Ronaldo surpassed him, totally sacrificed himself for the good of the team.
Rooney's the most important player at Manchester United, everyone who says otherwise is kidding himself. The arrival of RvP causes him drop deeper - sth he relishes and he's likely to end the season with 1000 000 assists. Why the feck can't people be happy with having two great strikers without comparing them in such manner?
Secondly, how has Van Persie put Rooney in his place? You're talking about the guy who apart from the contract circus never let us down and has been a terrific servant to the club. He showed greater promise than Ronaldo till they were 22/23, then when Ronaldo surpassed him, totally sacrificed himself for the good of the team.
Rooney's the most important player at Manchester United, everyone who says otherwise is kidding himself. The arrival of RvP causes him drop deeper - sth he relishes and he's likely to end the season with 1000 000 assists. Why the feck can't people be happy with having two great strikers without comparing them in such manner?
https://www.redcafe.net/f7/rooney-van-persie-349830/index7.html
Here's the thread I was talking about.
Here's the thread I was talking about.
You have become so bitter, Andy@Allerton should join forces.
If you just look at the video above and look at the trajectory of the ball, it's clearly a perfect hit. As for Rooney, it's the same. Two of the best goals in the PL, Rooney maybe even the best.
Nani is not in the class of RVP or Ronaldo, but he's spectacular to watch and these three players in one side would have made watching United even more pleasant. It's simply a matter of taste.
If I was on Rooney's wages, I'd been a great servant too. The contract circus showed his greed, his disrespect for Manchester United and his overestimation of his importance. (I'm still very, very disappointed with SAF for putting up with Rooney's crap. Particularly in the light of how he got rid of RVN and Becks.)
Your statement about the promise is your personal opinion - I had never any doubts that Ronaldo would turn out a player in a completely different class. I don't think Rooney's play had anything to do with 'sacrifice'. It was just his style of play.
Because players always get compared on forums.
Ronaldo is compared to Messi.
Rooney was compared to Ronaldo.
Rooney was compared to Eto'o.
There have been comparisons between Zidane and Scholes.
There have been comparisons between Giggs and Ronaldo.
And so on.
I didn't know we've had Zidane. Or Messi, or Eto.
Thing is, despite being a greedy bugger he's still a United player...whereas Ronaldo said see ya later. One of them could be a United player till he retires, the other will be chasing even more money and fame to match his narcissism before he finally calls it a day. Yes, Rooney was greedy...but I suspect he wasN'T wanting away for two seasons before signing a new contract. Seems to be a lot of revisionism regarding Ronaldo.
There always is lots of revisionism regarding Ronaldo. He's an incredible player, but the way people regard him here as some selfless player who sacrificed playing for us for his boyhood club is laughable. I've always thought myself he probably exaggerated that, and the increased paycheck had a lot to do with it.
Plus, some might say that Van Persie was greedy by leaving Arsenal to go to a bigger club, especially Arsenal fans. They'd have a point, too.
I have to say that I didn't know RvP's movement was THAT good... and one thing I keep noticing in matches is that he's remarkably good at trapping the ball on his chest, always keeping it close and turning it into the right space.
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