Best ball striking technique since scholes?
Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances
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He is better at striking a ball than Scholes.
His movement off the ball was utterly brilliant. That was what we lacked when Berbatov was here.
RVP is excellent at fixing his body position in order to connect well with the ball and produce nice finish from an awkward kind of position - but given the opportunity to smash a long shot then Scholes could strike it better than anyone who has been at the club in recent times.
It wasn't harsh; it was retarded. Berbatov might not have justified his price tag, but he was hardly a nightmare that we had to endure.
However, back to RVP, I think he's been everything we could've hoped for. He's just so smooth and clinical - it's incredible to think that Arsenal once boasted him, Fabregas and Nasri (along with some other very good players,) and yet they still won no silverware.
That's because they were up against us when we had Ronaldo, Rooney, VDS and probably the best set of defenders in the world.
That's hatred speaking for Voetbal and not logic
Yeah, but he was only a good player, not a top class.
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Assuming no more major injuries (big assumption), how many years do we think we will get out of Van Persie as an automatic starter?
I don't mean 'prolong' his career, like Giggs, Scoles, Neville or like Rio is starting to do.
Can a striker of his type play at full felt till 34 or beyond? What other examples are there?
(Arsenal fans opinions most important given you know the player better than we do)
Assuming no more major injuries (big assumption), how many years do we think we will get out of Van Persie as an automatic starter?
I don't mean 'prolong' his career, like Giggs, Scoles, Neville or like Rio is starting to do.
Can a striker of his type play at full felt till 34 or beyond? What other examples are there?
(Arsenal fans opinions most important given you know the player better than we do)
*crosses everything so as to avoid any jinxs*
I think we can get this season + 2 more where he is absolutely at his peak...so 3 seasons in total as an automatic starter. His injuries have meant, he's actually not got a lot of miles on him, and his game isn't really based around pace - so as of this moment, this is 24mil spent very, very well!
I think we can get this season + 2 more where he is absolutely at his peak...so 3 seasons in total as an automatic starter. His injuries have meant, he's actually not got a lot of miles on him, and his game isn't really based around pace - so as of this moment, this is 24mil spent very, very well!
Depends, but I'd say at least 4-5 years (permitting major injury) as an automatic starter, as he's game isn't dependent on pace or power etc (though he's a bit pacier than I thought). Ruud also played at a high level well into his 30's.
I'm not sure beyond that though as well most likely only offer him 1 year extensions after this contract expires and assuming he ends his career here (big assumption), he'll most probably start being rotated a bit more. Tough one to call though with Welbeck & Chicha knocking on the door etc.
He'll probably drop deeper as he gets older. I can see him playing at a high level well into his 30s like Bergkamp or Sheringham, provided he avoids injuries.
Think he was/is a top class player that wasn't quite complemented by the system or the players around him, like Shevchenko, Kaka and Crespo. Set the team up for any these guys and they are lethal. I think with RVP he has the ability to drop deep or go opposite and lead the line thus tailoring him with Rooney and making him an easier/better fit in our team. Rooney struggled to dove tail with Berbatov as it left us short of pace in behind and both them dropped deep, RVP is mostly going in behind Rooney is the one adjusting (brilliantly imo) and it is suiting us nicely. Once we get Vidic fit and if we get the left hand side of the team sorted we are going to be some force.
He'll easily play at this level until 32-33, then he'll probably need to change his game a little. I think, as it's been said, that he could be our new Sheringham even at the age of 35 if he carries himself well.
Even if we manage to get 2-3 seasons at this level from him he'll prove to be an excellent signing.
What a signing!
Who thought we needed a world class striker?
Who thought we needed a world class striker?
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Was he actually offside for the chance before Evra's goal on the corner? The idiots on rawk seem adamant that he was. I don't rememeber him being offside at all.
2 years of him at his best - one of the best strikers - would be great. A few years after of a good player after hopefully.
I think he will go back to holland when this contract is finished, but hopefully by then his name will be cemented in utd history.
To think some fans didn't want him. We've bought a truly great striker for a touch over 20m. That's not bad is it...
As I said, it's the same age Zidane was when he moved to Real and only a year older than Figo who was a winger and needed pace more than van Persie ever will. Both proved to be excellet signings for Real, van Persie will do the same at United. That's an advantage of buying a proven performer, you know you're getting top quality and there's very little risk involved if he suits your style which van Persie obviously did.
Yeah, he's also got a good few years left him due to being mostly injured prior to a couple of seasons back. There's always a risk, though, but we were buying a player who was at the very top of his game....and unlike Berbatov...totally proven at every level. For me, it was a no brainer.
Telling the arsenal fans how many he has scored this season
and showing them how excited he is to be playing for United.
Ronaldo disagrees strongly.
He's settled in superbly, can't believe though that he's even more of a risk of getting sent off that Rooney though.
Nope.
Ah yeah, Definitely not offside.
Nope. Ronaldo scored long goals that Scholes couldn't have, but Scholes' consistency in hitting the target with those piledrivers is unparalleled, whereas Ronaldo would sky five for every one on target. To be honest it's a silly comparison, different players, roles in the team, shooting styles etc etc.
Um, on topic... could RVP have made a much better start than he has? I don't think so, really. His partnership with Rooney is looking like everything we'd hoped for. Now just please don't get injured.
Given the choice of player to hit a shot for us from 30-35 yards, Ronaldo wins every single time, that's my only point.
I actually think RVP has the beat shooting technique of all 3, the positions he can twist his body in to strike a ball are unparalleled.
He's utterly brilliant. I have never realized just how good he is, until his move to United.
Everything he does is so well-thought-out and the execution is almost always perfect.
The best player at the club.
Everything he does is so well-thought-out and the execution is almost always perfect.
The best player at the club.
He is amazing. Rapidly becoming my favourite player. But let's not pretend his signing was/is risk free. He is proven quality but with his injury record I know I'm not the only one who shits himself every time he gets tackled. Who would be surprised if he got an injury next weekend that ruled him out for 5 or 6 months? Not many I'd wager. That was why some of us had reservations. That and the whole reinforcing where we were already strong thing, but on the latter argument I def concede I was wrong as he has made such a big difference.
Sometimes I am delighted to be wrong. But I'm still not convinced he'll last the season without serious injury. Even if he does get one, he has arguably been vital to keeping us in contention this long. So maybe it'll prove to be worth it anyway.
Sometimes I am delighted to be wrong. But I'm still not convinced he'll last the season without serious injury. Even if he does get one, he has arguably been vital to keeping us in contention this long. So maybe it'll prove to be worth it anyway.
His first touch with every part of his body is just amazing. His movement basically makes him unmarkable. And he's a deadly finisher.
I think Top's right, he's the best player at the club currently.
I think Top's right, he's the best player at the club currently.
If you could go back in time and make it so we signed Hazard and not Van Persie, would you?
You'd have to ask that question in a couple of years time... but right now, I think it's not outlandish to say we probably wouldn't be top of the league if we had Hazard instead of RVP.
Yes it's a short term / long term question isn't it.
But feck the long term, we have Smalling, Jones, Welbeck, Cleverley etc for the long term. Sometimes you just need something for now.
If you'd asked me in the summer tho I'd have said Hazard. And I'd never seen him play.
He can disagree all he likes, he never hit them as good as Scholes.
With time to take a touch and set himself, Ronaldo. Volley, half-volley or rolling ball, Scholes.
He was Henry-like in his last season with Arsenal, and I thought he was the best player in the league for almost 2 season already before coming to United.
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