Wouldn't be the biggest fan of the appointment if it happens. I think he'd play some more structured and good football but would also frustrate with team selections and other quirks. But I agree it wouldn't be lack of trophies would be the reason, we don't need 'experience', we could do with someone hungry and upcoming, rather than yesterday's news in terms of tactics. De Zerbi would at least be at the forefront of new tactical trends, which is rare for a United manager hire.
Roberto De Zerbi
- Thread starter Bastian
- Start date
Wouldn't be the biggest fan of the appointment if it happens. I think he'd play some more structured and good football but would also frustrate with team selections and other quirks. But I agree it wouldn't be lack of trophies would be the reason, we don't need 'experience', we could do with someone hungry and upcoming, rather than yesterday's news in terms of tactics. De Zerbi would at least be at the forefront of new tactical trends, which is rare for a United manager hire.
Yup for sure, it's just a point to consider even if there is an asterisk to it (like with ten hag). There's lots of unknowns and things for him to prove before they're ready for a top job imo... Ten Hag for example regularly lost big players at Ajax and was able to keep them ticking, albeit in a weaker league. Ten Hag has to prove next season if he stays that he can coach us well, as this season was not good. De Zerbi I wouldn't take on the basis of 1 good season.
A no nonsense - nothing to lose manager would be ideal for us I believe. And De Zerbi looks just like that.
Obviously there are better options out there but no one knows how good they may end up being.
To be fair to De Zerbi, it's not really one good season. He got the Brighton job in the first place because he was considering a good upcoming coach. He did a great job at Sassuolo in Serie A, which was a similar situation to Brighton, and was doing a solid job at Shakhtar before the war.
I know this not really a big deal, but the fact that he is a smoker is off-putting for me. Not a sign of some being very sensible is it.
Are INEOS going for him purely because he's Italian? Makes him statistically more likely to win the league than a Dutchman, I suppose (marginal gains and all that).
Are INEOS going for him purely because he's Italian? Makes him statistically more likely to win the league than a Dutchman, I suppose (marginal gains and all that).
Just when I thought I was in…he pulls me back out.
Of all the hipster managers ever, this guy is the one I've seen the most pushback against. Even Liverpool fans didn't want to go anywhere near him. Seen a lot of Chelsea fans praying they didn't go for him too. Maybe its the shit hair and goatee.
I would know how we would play under him, and if we don't then I know to be worried about the club itself and not the managers anymore.
Not humble enough, in my humble opinion.
Wouldn't be my choice, but I would understand the reasoning of trying to play better football and he does give a lot of young players opportunities. He also dealt horrifically with his injury crisis though and not struck me as much of a winner.
Why do clubs have to pay Brighton a fee? Has he not left them?
Jim needs to get a grip.
Maybe for his £1bn he wants to be entertained by the footy every other weekend.
Just seen AC Milan are close to appointing a new manager
Napoli appointing Conte
Juventus getting Motta
Interesting to see where he does go?
Napoli appointing Conte
Juventus getting Motta
Interesting to see where he does go?
He might've gotten a bit overhyped after last season, but there seems to be a huge overcorrection for that going on here among some posters. The way other managers as well as his players speak of him makes me think there is something there that might be special in the correct circumstances. He had Brighton play a style of football clubs with their resources have no right to pull of succesfully. It would be interesting to see him here or at another club with better players and more resources. Doesn't seem to be the one we're going for if EtH goes, though.
First time I've ever seen someone use smoking as a character flaw.
Obviously he did very well last season, this season was a bit rough, the squad wasn't as strong and he struggled to implement his play on the opponents as hard as they did last season. Although, he is still the most talked about tactical manager, whether it's by footballing experts or managers, with high praise and his tactical setups are probably the most discussed hot topic in the world of football atm. Just simply look how many De Zerbi analytics are there over youtube, his very specific play style has left it's mark to the world already. I think he can do a lot better for a better team than he did this season and can prove himself to be very successful manager.
If "maximum confidentiality" were to be believed, the news will come out soon. Hopefully, by this week.
Weren't Rooney, Berbatov and Cantona known to like a puff? Fergie should have known better than to sign such careless divs.
Is it really? I think it's fine if you're David Lynch, but not someone involved in elite sport in modern times.
He has since quit.
2 decent seasons. Finishing mid table with the current Brighton squad is a job well done
They’re fighting relegation next season this experiment of selling 2 star players every window is running out of steam the squad is dog shit now.
I think the season just gone was masked by a strong start. After their first five games, they were in fifth place. But their form for the rest of this season was barely above relegation form. They never actually dipped down low enough to spark much interest, but 8 wins from the following 33 games is worrying form over an extended period. Their goalscoring during that spell was among the worst in the league too. They’re already looking bad enough for next season to be a major worry.
Completely agree. We played them earlier in the season and someone on here said there team was worth £17m or something.
Their lucky to be in the league with a squad like that.
Too short to be United manager
Ya Im not massively pro de zerbi, but even how he did this season is far higher than brighton have historically finished, and that was after losing mcallister and caceido, then mitoma for the season through injury. Add in playing in europe with such a thin squad, weve seen teams really struggle with that and brighton were always pretty comfortably around mid table.
Id encourage people to look at their squad, its very thin and not massively talented- they did well because they worked well as a team
what a strange post
I'd have big concerns but on balance I'd take him over another season of ETH. He'll bring some fresh ideas to the table. Plus if he can turn Lewis Dunk into a ball playing defender then he'll have fun with Martinez.
He’s the kind of manager who can kick start the coaching revolution we need in terms of front foot possession football. But I don’t see him as someone who’d be a success here - more the chap who can start building something yet ultimately not quite good enough.
Wouldn’t be my pick personally but he’d be better than someone making us solid / hard to beat / sitting deep and counter attacking.
Wouldn’t be my pick personally but he’d be better than someone making us solid / hard to beat / sitting deep and counter attacking.
He's a pouter and goes ape
when the coffee machine doesn't work. Sense of enti
tlement, probably thinks thinks he dezerbis the job.
when the coffee machine doesn't work. Sense of enti
tlement, probably thinks thinks he dezerbis the job.
A coach passionate about his team dominating with the ball every game? Yes please.
Apparently it was part of the deal for letting him go mid contract, we agreed to reduce the compensation paid from 15 million to 5 million.
Also a coach who has never been at a club of such scale like United. Not saying it shouldn’t be him - but does he really have what it take to manage such a huge with all the pressure it involves? Even Mourinho seemed really pressured here
He didn't turn Lewis Dunk into a ball playing defender, Potter did. De Zerbi just took it all one step further, which he could be able to do with Martinez too, granted.
Its because he has a very clear fragility in his style of play. Usually with a hipster manager they are nutters but very good tactical managers, De Zerbi isn't that.
I think he's a brilliant coach, his style of play has been praised, not just at Brighton but at Sassuolo and Benevento before that as well (you can't really rate his Shaktar career because of the war). He took Sassuolo to 8th two seasons on the trot and just missed out on European football to Roma who were ahead on goal difference.
He likes to dominate possession as we've seen at Brighton, even at Sassuolo his team recorded the highest possession share in Serie A. He stretches play relying on full backs and wingers, bringing the goal keeper into a back three while passing out from the back to give his team an extra man. The downside is his teams can concede too many chances and if they're not on top form it can go wrong.
Players seem to love playing for him and certainly develop under his leadership. Dunk said quite early on in RTDZ's time at Brighton that De Zerbi made him see football in a completely different way. In fact I would say the majority of Brighton's squad have played better under De Zerbi than under Potter and I can not think of a player that's got worse.
A lot is made of the injuries he's faced and Mac Allister and Caicedo leaving. But our drop of in form in the second half of the season possibly wouldn't have happened if we'd used the January transfer window more. RDZ wanted to bring in a couple of established players to bolster the squad, but our board refused and only bought in a 19 year old left back, Valentin Barco, typically of Brighton, one for the future. That was really the biggest issue for RDZ and that's when he started questioning the club's ambition vs his.
He is definitely passionate and determined, he develops and improves players, his football is possession based, attacking and exciting to watch using the wings, he's great with young players as well as established ones. I'm gutted, but not at all surprised to see him leave Brighton. He's been highly rated everywhere he has been, even when he was relegated with Benevento, years ago now, the Italian press raved about his innovative and exciting style. I don't get what's not to like about him, I think he'd be a great fit at United if you decide to move on from ETH.
He likes to dominate possession as we've seen at Brighton, even at Sassuolo his team recorded the highest possession share in Serie A. He stretches play relying on full backs and wingers, bringing the goal keeper into a back three while passing out from the back to give his team an extra man. The downside is his teams can concede too many chances and if they're not on top form it can go wrong.
Players seem to love playing for him and certainly develop under his leadership. Dunk said quite early on in RTDZ's time at Brighton that De Zerbi made him see football in a completely different way. In fact I would say the majority of Brighton's squad have played better under De Zerbi than under Potter and I can not think of a player that's got worse.
A lot is made of the injuries he's faced and Mac Allister and Caicedo leaving. But our drop of in form in the second half of the season possibly wouldn't have happened if we'd used the January transfer window more. RDZ wanted to bring in a couple of established players to bolster the squad, but our board refused and only bought in a 19 year old left back, Valentin Barco, typically of Brighton, one for the future. That was really the biggest issue for RDZ and that's when he started questioning the club's ambition vs his.
He is definitely passionate and determined, he develops and improves players, his football is possession based, attacking and exciting to watch using the wings, he's great with young players as well as established ones. I'm gutted, but not at all surprised to see him leave Brighton. He's been highly rated everywhere he has been, even when he was relegated with Benevento, years ago now, the Italian press raved about his innovative and exciting style. I don't get what's not to like about him, I think he'd be a great fit at United if you decide to move on from ETH.
I'd argue now that the bar is set so low there won't be any pressure.
The same was said for Ten Hag, and look at this place now
I'd argue there'll always be huge pressure to win stuff at United. The pressure has ever since Fergie retired been a big part of why the managers haven't worked out here.
They're pressured to play a certain (entertaining) way and fired if they either don't do that or they don't win stuff. At least De Zerbi would probably be entertaining.
It's so far from the truth don't know where to begin .