Hummels? He's still there shirley?
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Hummels? He's still there shirley?
Yes, but he grew up in their academy before leaving for Dortmund in 2008.
how is Benatia doing? Does he still suffer from injuries all the time?
Nowhere for him to go?
I mean at the price Bayern would want there's nobody who'll pay that.
I mean at the price Bayern would want there's nobody who'll pay that.
Ah. So it's just us they sell ringers?
He had a tough first year with inconsistency and the tough competition, but this year he’s been great barring 1-2 mistakes and he’s made us completely forget Bonucci. There are rumors Benatia might go to Marseille this summer, though. Juve are also bringing in Mattia Caldara from Atalanta.
James leaving is because he didn't fit the team properly yes because of how Real play with Benzema and Ronaldo. Bale has not been able to play for Real like he did with Tottenham or does with Wales and because of that he can't shine.
I imagine Barca don't sign players that they don't think will mesh well with Messi.
We are his most likely destination according to Kicker (courtesy of transfer tweets on this very site). Wouldn't he represent a huge risk in terms of salary and age? An amazing player but it would all feel a little Sanchez to me.
Would he be willing to sit on the bench and be a substitute for Rom though?
Sorry, I really can't see us going for him - we have Rom who should be a guarenteed starter. What we need is an experienced striker to come off the bench or get minutes when Rom needs some rest + give Rash more time to develop.
Think Lewa made a great mistake when he renewed with Bayern - now Madrid isn't interested anymore and he/his agent is looking to make-up some random rumors to maybe trigger Perez. In my opinion he will be stuck at Bayern for the time being whether he likes it or not..
We aren't after him.
If we didn't have Lukaku then I'd be all for it. Alas, definitely not.
I just can't see who'd sign him. Madrid will keep Benzema I feel and Ronnie will end up being more and more like a CF next season.
He'll end up staying at Bayern.
I just can't see who'd sign him. Madrid will keep Benzema I feel and Ronnie will end up being more and more like a CF next season.
He'll end up staying at Bayern.
If we are gonna play 2 strikers (and feel Rashford and Martial aren't up to it) we might as well buy Werner rather than Lewa. The way we play we need forwards who can make things happen on their own. Lewa has never been one of those.
I'd love him at City as he'd offer something totally different to Aguero and Jesus, and let's face it neither have proven to be able to play a full season so we could do with another top class striker.
If City had him you'd have to play him every single week and that would cause problems with Aguero and Jesus when they are fit. I dont see him being a good fit for yourselves at all not unless you sell Aguero
Not what we require right now. Let him go somewhere else.
I rate him very highly but just don’t feel he’d fit in our team. Jose loves Lukaku so can’t see him going for another striker.
No chance we'd sign him unless Jose plans to play 3-5-2, and even then who'd take the bench? Sanchez? Lukaku? don't think so.
They're just using our name to drive up the price as usual.
They're just using our name to drive up the price as usual.
He probably would play every week, with the League, CL and League cup most teams now play twice a week, both Aguero and Jesus haven't been able to prove they can play consistently twice a week so he'd get plenty of game time. Anyway it's all fancy on my part as we're not going to buy him anyway
He’s not better than Aguero and I don’t think he improves then. Signing him could actually cost them a league title.
Why didn't we go for him when he was BVB? I don't think hes the right fit for us now.
Chelsea are after a striker surely?
Lewa is a world class bottler imo, we shouldn't be anywhere near him considering the fee and wages
Lewa is a world class bottler imo, we shouldn't be anywhere near him considering the fee and wages
Cant see us taking him either, with the fact he would be a huge fee huge wages and our policy on over 30's.
Isn't Higuain rumoured to be your next striker? He would command a 50m fee and huge wages.
Morata is as good as gone as I can tell. Doesn't fancy fighting it out in the BPL and wants to return to Italy
What's happening with Bats? Did well at Dortmund, but can't imagine him fitting in a Sarri team.
In hindsight we should have gone all out before he moved to Dortmund, we'd only just signed prime RVP though so can see why we didn't but Lewandowski obviously would have been a much better long term fit
Rumoured yes but again I really just cant see that happening at all. For the board to be so difficult in there negotiations with players over 30 and then to give in for Higuain just doesn't make any sort of sense.
I think Morata will stay but I wouldn't guarantee that, don't think Chelsea will be willing to sell him and next year our style of play looks like it will be vastly different so I think he will stay.
Between Giroud Morata and Michy we have a good variation.
For me Michy still has huge potential, he's struggled in the Prem to find consistency (even though he has a very good goal scoring record) but he is also a player geared to possession/attacking football. Something we are yet to have in our team, so would he benefit from being the poacher in an attacking Sarri system, I believe so.
Oh I agree Morata won't be sold. Good thing that Juventus is famous for cheap loan deals
Three good strikers sounds a bit much for a side without CL, you could play with Cahill up front and still top any Europa League group. I suspect it will be Giroud plus one.
True, where was he before BVB? I just remember he had a really good season under Klopp.
Lech Poznań, doubt United would risk taking a player straight out of Polish league. FWIW we've bid for him when he was at BVB, the same year we've got Kagawa, it's just BVB who didn't want to sell them both at the same time.
As for Lewy now, nope, unless we plan on playing with two strikers simultaneously there's just no point in getting him, perhaps before we got Lukaku but now? I think he pretty much fecked himself given that RM simply don't need him. Unless Chelsea go big for him, anything available to him will be a step down from Bayern basically.
Yeah I can't say I've heard of that team before, no surprise we didn't risk it. I agree he's not essentially what we need right now - we need a RW and a LB more than anything.
"a little Sanchez to me" deary fecking me
Just think Big Sam almost got him to Blackburn.
My mistake he was already at Dortmund when we were tipped to sign him, it was in 2012 just before the Euro's in Poland
How good has Benatia been for Juve?
not a United player in my opinion
Lewandowski seems a bit uninterested and unmotivated at Bayern. Maybe he needs a new challenge and experience.
Generally I liked his Dortmund Version more, as he was more involved in the buildup.
I still rate Lewandowski as one of the top 3 strikers in the world. IF he is arsed and fired up. Doesn't seem to be the case at the moment.
Don't see a place at United with Lukaku there and don't know which club needs him and where he would want to go. So he and Bayern should learn to love each other again.
I think he really wanted a move to Madrid as his glamorous final station so yes he should have planned better in that case. Can't have everything all the time. And Bayern doesn't play such games and have no need to give in player demands. Well till they aren't good enough anymore (for them, whatever the reason).Would he be willing to sit on the bench and be a substitute for Rom though?
Sorry, I really can't see us going for him - we have Rom who should be a guarenteed starter. What we need is an experienced striker to come off the bench or get minutes when Rom needs some rest + give Rash more time to develop.
Think Lewa made a great mistake when he renewed with Bayern - now Madrid isn't interested anymore and he/his agent is looking to make-up some random rumors to maybe trigger Perez. In my opinion he will be stuck at Bayern for the time being whether he likes it or not.
Also his first season at Dortmund wasn't good. He was in the shadow of Lucas Barrios which was to be expected. Still the expectations weren't met at the time I think. Of course he became great in his second season.
Generally I liked his Dortmund Version more, as he was more involved in the buildup.
I still rate Lewandowski as one of the top 3 strikers in the world. IF he is arsed and fired up. Doesn't seem to be the case at the moment.
Don't see a place at United with Lukaku there and don't know which club needs him and where he would want to go. So he and Bayern should learn to love each other again.
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How would we set up the team assuming we signed Lewandowski. I'm assuming that Mourinho signed Lukaku, Sanchez and Matic to start and Fred to play with Pogba and Matic, so I'm assuming they and Lukaku are all in their. That's basically impossible to do with 3 at the back, so maybe Mourinho would be thinking:
----------Lewa-Lukaku---
Sanchez------------------
----------Fred--Pogba-----
-----------Matic-----------
Sandro/LB----------Valencia
-----------LCB-Bailly-------
-------------De Gea----------
and I have no real sense of who Bailly's partner would be, presumably Lindelof, Rojo, Smalling, Jones or a signing.
Obviously Valencia there is fine defensively but not so much going forward. It's certainly possible Young or even Dalot could win his job.
But honestly that's pretty strong in terms of overall quality. Not really lacking in pace as much at first glance with an athletic pair in Fred and Pogba and good mobility in Sanchez and Lukaku wider. I do think we'd need Lindelof to step up a level (possible at his age and with his performances for Sweden and Benfica) or signing someone and the same for Shaw (I do think the talent is there and again his age suggests it's still quite possible he could have his breakout year for us) and at LB, but after that we have a front 6 of strong players and good youth like Martial, Rashford and Lingard available as depth, with one of the first two still likely to kick it up at their age.
is Pogba a bit out of position? To best perform? This comes close to replicating the French setup with one exception: Lewa is a better Giroud (Target 9 with good link play), Lukaku a worse Mbappe (striker out wide), Sanchez an aging Griezmann (in Sanchez' prime he might have been as productive, if he'd gotten to play off a 9 instead of out wide, which Griezmann is privileged to do), Fred as presumably a worse Kante (ball-chasing and playing 8) and of course Pogba as Pogba.
The big difference is that Matic is similar to N'Zonzi and while he's a better player than Matuidi, the French manager went for his industriousness and tactical strength on the left. Would we end up being better off playing Herrera or Lingard on the left, or eventually signing someone there? Would Sanchez being comfortable playing on the left and Griezmann preferring the middle make that better? Would Sanchez coming short to playmake with 2 strikers ahead of him lead to him just constantly giving the ball away and having him feck things up defensively?
We could also just bench Fred against weaker teams and use Mata or Lingard on the right and Pogba central in a 4-4-2. I don't like Lingard that far wide but Mata surrounded by top talent 3 goalscorers up top is interesting.
----------Lewa-Lukaku---
Sanchez------------------
----------Fred--Pogba-----
-----------Matic-----------
Sandro/LB----------Valencia
-----------LCB-Bailly-------
-------------De Gea----------
and I have no real sense of who Bailly's partner would be, presumably Lindelof, Rojo, Smalling, Jones or a signing.
Obviously Valencia there is fine defensively but not so much going forward. It's certainly possible Young or even Dalot could win his job.
But honestly that's pretty strong in terms of overall quality. Not really lacking in pace as much at first glance with an athletic pair in Fred and Pogba and good mobility in Sanchez and Lukaku wider. I do think we'd need Lindelof to step up a level (possible at his age and with his performances for Sweden and Benfica) or signing someone and the same for Shaw (I do think the talent is there and again his age suggests it's still quite possible he could have his breakout year for us) and at LB, but after that we have a front 6 of strong players and good youth like Martial, Rashford and Lingard available as depth, with one of the first two still likely to kick it up at their age.
is Pogba a bit out of position? To best perform? This comes close to replicating the French setup with one exception: Lewa is a better Giroud (Target 9 with good link play), Lukaku a worse Mbappe (striker out wide), Sanchez an aging Griezmann (in Sanchez' prime he might have been as productive, if he'd gotten to play off a 9 instead of out wide, which Griezmann is privileged to do), Fred as presumably a worse Kante (ball-chasing and playing 8) and of course Pogba as Pogba.
The big difference is that Matic is similar to N'Zonzi and while he's a better player than Matuidi, the French manager went for his industriousness and tactical strength on the left. Would we end up being better off playing Herrera or Lingard on the left, or eventually signing someone there? Would Sanchez being comfortable playing on the left and Griezmann preferring the middle make that better? Would Sanchez coming short to playmake with 2 strikers ahead of him lead to him just constantly giving the ball away and having him feck things up defensively?
We could also just bench Fred against weaker teams and use Mata or Lingard on the right and Pogba central in a 4-4-2. I don't like Lingard that far wide but Mata surrounded by top talent 3 goalscorers up top is interesting.
Lewandowski whilst he was flying at Dortmund would've made perfect sense, now is the wrong time to sign him.
Only way we actually go in for him is if we struck out on all our other options because as great of a player as he is, we have far more pressing needs than an expensive striker.
Pretty sure we're not in for him, it's his new agent who's failed to get him to RM trying some desperate moves now as they seem to be getting tired of his bullshit at Bayern.
I'm positive we're being used in contract/transfer negotiations here.
I'm positive we're being used in contract/transfer negotiations here.
No chance.
We’ve invested too much in Sanchez and Lukaku to try, we can’t afford to try and shoe horn Lewandowski in.
We’ve invested too much in Sanchez and Lukaku to try, we can’t afford to try and shoe horn Lewandowski in.
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