Sorry to burst your bubble mate but Bayern aren't gonna win the CL even if you sign Bale. The Bayern side needs massive surgery. And you are wildly overestimating Bayern's worldwide appeal if you think Bale is gonna become anything akin to a footballing "franchise player" playing for Bayern.
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Having your heart set on Spain is pointless if they don't make offers for you. If Bayern want Hazard and they can butter Chelsea up with Lewandowski I cant see him refusing. Its Bayern. He'd only refuse if he is certain to go to a Real to play for Zidane. Not if that isnt certain
Bayern have a great team, they did just make it to the Semi-Final, and they were very unlucky with injuries. They need one or two players to replace Ribery/Robben and they'll be major contenders next year again.
Bayern are gonna pay Bale's astronomical wages are they?
The squad has been slowly rejuvenized in case you haven't noticed and weren't it for two massive blunders by reserve players, we would have thrown out Real this season and would've had the very real chance to win it. I think you are overestimating the current appeal of United and, most specifically, it's manager.
Pissing contest aside, I think returning to a country he knows and where he speaks the language will be of greater attractrion to Bale than anything, he's already won 4 CL's and I doubt he gives a shit about a Bundesliga medal.
If City were coming for him, he would be off in a second, that's for sure. Not even sure I want him for all his appeal, I fear he would be just Robben v2, all problems included.
I dont buy the notion Bayern want Bale either. Their heart is set on reducing the age of their squad
Bale for Lewa makes sense. Hope that goes.
Well, we need wingers and he is in his prime. He's also not like, ancient.
I mean it isn't an actual word but I like it. Henceforth, it shall mean a team that has been stocked with older, over the hill former Juve players.
Tier 1 guy for Bayern news said they are interested.
I don't want to derail this thread and whilst I agree that this current Man Utd isn't perhaps the draw it was a few years ago but Bayern are lacking in certain key areas before they can talk about winning the CL again. If Lewa leaves you need a top quality CF. None of Tolisso (even though I'm a huge fan of his), Vidal ( the current version), Rudy, Goretzka are of the level of Schweinsteiger or Kroos. You need a partner for Thiago. Coman and Gnabry also aren't gonna give you the success Ribery and Robben did. Sule isn't the finished article yet and with Boateng looking set on leaving (I'm not sure if he's even first choice anyway), you aren't exactly impenetrable in defence. Bale alone will not solve all those problems.
We don't need a partner for Thiago, we need to sell Thiago.
Neither did I at first but after some thought I can see it happening. Bale strikes me as the kind of player who wants to establish himself as the main man at a big European club, he also seems desperate to blaze a path outside of English football – which is why he turned us down so quickly prior to his move to Madrid. Not only do Bayern tick all those boxes, he's guaranteed leagues there. Sure he'll probably never win another European Cup if the move goes through but I think he's had his fill of Champions League medals now and probably wants to rack up a good number of domestic titles before the end of his career. That's not guaranteed at any club in England nor is it guaranteed at Madrid so it kind of makes sense to me. Of course I could be talking absolute rubbish but that's my take on why Bale could potentially want to go there and why he'd maybe consider taking a wage cut to push a transfer through.
Well in that case you need even more quality reinforcements. By the way why do you wanna sell Thiago??
fecking passenger and utterly pointless. All style, zero substance. His attitude his holding the team back. No Bayern fan will shed a tear if he's off in the summer. Goretzka is more than able to "replace" him (not that he really has been playing the important matches anyway) and probably is the better option anyway.
Wow. That's a pretty damning assessment.
Unambigously shared amongst Bayern fans on this forum. I was the last to come aboard after defending him for a long time, but this season really showed his lack of....everything, really. He's too weak mentally to be the main man of a top team. Or in @Balu 's words: He's an Arsenal player through and through.
Doesn't Bayern have a very strict wage structure and won't be making exceptions for anybody (the main reason Kroos left). Their record transfer is also pretty low and Bale could cost double that. Bale is 29 and this may be his last big contract. So it would make more sense for him to go to a club like PSG or one of the Manchester clubs imo. Ideally, if Zidane can assure him of a starting spot next season, he will prefer staying but that seems out of the question.
There are wingers YOUNGER than him available. Robben isn't finished yet, Coman is on the books and Gnabry. I'm willing to bet Bayern would rather bag Malcolm and Bailey than spend like 80 to get a 29 year old. They could even convince PSG to give em Draxler if Tuchel were to decided he has plans for Guedes to stay
Draxler is no winger, never was. Bailey is certainly interesting in case he becomes available, Malcom....eh. Not too sure about him. Not good to have more than one bet on the books.
Where would he go? He obviously has something lined up if he asked to leave, maybe Madrid? I don't see another big club looking for a striker, maybe Chelsea, but they have no CL this year.
With Juve supposedly offering Higuain around could he end up at Juve?
If Lewandowski goes, what profile of striker would Kovac prefer? His Frankfurt team played with energy and intense pressing, so I'm guessing someone like Cavani/Mandzukic. Guys who put in a shift defensively but are also prolific.
That's just based on his time at Frankfurt though. He might show the ability to go a different route with Bayern. Werner + Mandzukic should be enough, or only Werner if Bale arrives.
That's just based on his time at Frankfurt though. He might show the ability to go a different route with Bayern. Werner + Mandzukic should be enough, or only Werner if Bale arrives.
You wont find many United fans that dislike our current manager more than me, and if Bale was a young flair player I agree that he could be a deterent, but Bale knows he'd be treat like royalty by Mourinho, afforded the same pass on everything that Sanchez and Matic get, he'd be made an undroppable centerpiece.
I think Juve is his probable destination.
Why else would Juve want to sell higuain at this point?
I suppose you chose not to watch 16/17. The guy had the most interceptions in Europe that season, including defenders. That's not "zero substance". It really irks me how unappreciated his off-the-ball work goes.This season he was injured for long periods and played very, very well in the six role against Madrid. The Köln game, which happened right after Madrid second leg, showed what a difference he makes to Bayern's build-up.
Seriously man, who convinced you against Thiago? Introduce them to me.
Italian media seem to think they want Icardi to replace Higuain, I'm not sure Juve would pay Lewandowskis wages, especially given the fee they'll have to pay to get him.
Could Barcelona sign Lewandowski?
Perhaps Griezmann wants to stay at Atleti, and Dembele will go back to Germany?
Perhaps Griezmann wants to stay at Atleti, and Dembele will go back to Germany?
With players like Sule, Kimmich, Goretzka, Coman, Gnabry the goal wouldn't be to win this season but for the next seasons to come. This team certainly has the potential with players like Hummels, Muller, James, Vidal, Neuer, Alaba leading the younger players to still reach the semi final and be successful in the BL.
In a few years you would expect players like Sule, Kimmich, Goretzka and hopefully one of Coman/Gnabry to be world class and lead the side to glory. You have to remember for how long guys like Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Ribery were at the club before they finally got their UCL success. Can be similar for this squad.
I would still say that whether Coman/Gnabry will be world class is a big question so they would be better going for a confirmed world class talent like Martial for LW.
Don't think, he'll be asked tbh
Well, Mandzukic already stank up our dressing room, no way we'll sign him a 2nd time. Werner would, of course, be the No1 target if Lewa was given permission to leave.
I'd take all the Bale talk with a truck load of Salt.
Obviously he's not happy with the amount of minutes he's been given in the recent past, so he looks for alternatives. And frankly, there aren't too many, if he doesn't want to take too much of a competitive step down. After all, Bayern is the club that has given Real the biggest headache in the past 2 years.
From a Bayern perspective, there's no way the club would put a player on a 500k/week salary anytime soon. Also, Robben's contract has been extended for another year, and I can't see anyone wanting to deal with a sulking Robben.
Calling an actually happening transfer of Bale to Bayern a surprise would be the understatement of the century. He's either gonna stay(most likely outcome for me) or, if he goes it'll be one of the oil clubs.
Its a pity we werent interested
€600k per week. I can't see anyone paying that!
Interesting. Most big/rich enough clubs already have great strikers or strikers one just can’t imagine being sacrificed. There’s Ronaldo and PSG to make it possible, but PSG alreay have Cavani who’s almost as good as Lewandowski - but he’s 31 and I wouldn’t be shocked if he went back to Italy. Perhaps Lewa for PSG and Ronaldo staying at Real until Kane comes next year after Spurs fail once again? With yet another trophyless season, he would basically be held hostage.
Chelsea aren’t in the CL, forget about it. Perhaps Juve by exhanging Higuain? Perhaps, but why change a one-team league for another?
Funnily enough, out of the top teams in the CL, we are definitely the one that would need him the most. Lukaku just isn’t anywhere near the top.
Chelsea aren’t in the CL, forget about it. Perhaps Juve by exhanging Higuain? Perhaps, but why change a one-team league for another?
Funnily enough, out of the top teams in the CL, we are definitely the one that would need him the most. Lukaku just isn’t anywhere near the top.
Well the Spanish government have been subsidizing his wages so it's not possible for most clubs.Bayern's top earner is Lewandoski on 225k after tax. Bale is on 350k after tax which is 50% more.
I don’t get this obsession with the whole “fitting in with Ronaldo” theory. How many attackers have really not fit in with him? I can’t think of any.
Juve aren't paying Lewandowski's wages.
Does Werner have the potential to be as good as Lewa?
Does Werner have the potential to be as good as Lewa?
Exactly this.
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