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Because Chelsea had a poor season. Like I said. Once they spend another 100 million this summer, they won't be picking up 75 points again.

I think we're doing about as well as we can given our resources at the moment and our inability to access CL football. We have the 6th biggest wage bill in the country.

If Modric was sold early on, we would have picked up a rubbish amount of money for him. Some of you go on about selling early as if its the priority, even if the offer is shit. As if you would have just sold early if Real had offered 40 million for Ronaldo for example.

That was your chance to pounce. You also messed up on the third spot in the season before last.

Who knows how many points they'll pick up next season. Did anyone imagine City only garnering 78 points and finishing 11 points behind United? Most pundits and opposition fans had this as our worst team (again) and City as champions before the start of the season.

Rubbish amount of money? You mean £28m-£30m instead of £33m? How much did you miss out on by not qualifying on the champions league? Also, there is a possibility that your best player may leave because you don't have champions league football to offer. So well done holding on to Modric till the end.

Spurs fans are hilarious. Earlier they thought they were nailed on to finish in the top 4 and they didn't shy away from opening their big mouths. Now, they're doing well given their resources. Good lord.
 
That was your chance to pounce. You also messed up on the third spot in the season before last.

Who knows how many points they'll pick up next season. Did anyone imagine City only garnering 78 points and finishing 11 points behind United? Most pundits and opposition fans had this as our worst team (again) and City as champions before the start of the season.

Rubbish amount of money? You mean £28m-£30m instead of £33m? How much did you miss out on by not qualifying on the champions league? Also, there is a possibility that your best player may leave because you don't have champions league football to offer. So well done holding on to Modric till the end.

Spurs fans are hilarious. Earlier they thought they were nailed on to finish in the top 4 and they didn't shy away from opening their big mouths. Now, they're doing well given their resources. Good lord.

To be fair, most of those predictions were before we signed RvP. I think the general consensus once we signed him was that we'd win the league.
 
That was not the point. I mentioned it to highlight that all is not rosy in the German league and not everyone is under the 50+1 rule. A club is also challenging the legality of the whole issue in a court of law.
It's already settled. The court decided that the 20 years exception must be effectice at any point in time. Before Martin Kind (Hannover 96) challenged it in court, the company had to be involved in the club for more than 20 years prior to January, 1st 1999. Now that date isn't relevant anymore, the rule in general still is and there's no one challenging it.


My posts were not made to hate on Bayern. I simply mentioned how the German league is not as competitive as the English league and how Bayern hold an advantage over the others with the TV advertising deals and their popularity in Germany. And that the presence of sugar daddy's in the English league may be cringe worthy for some but they actually help with the overall competitiveness of the league due to their teams being title contenders.
That's like saying United have an advantage over others because of their popularity and the possibilty of signing better sponsoring deals. What's so special about it? It's not like Bayern are the only club with those advertising deals, every club in germany have them. I really don't understand why you keep mentioning these. How much money bring these? How significant is the advantage compared to other leagues or is there any advantage at all? Without numbers that's just speculation on your part without any substance to it.
 
It's already settled. The court decided that the 20 years exception must be effectice at any point in time. Before Martin Kind (Hannover 96) challenged it in court, the company had to be involved in the club for more than 20 years prior to January, 1st 1999. Now that date isn't relevant anymore, the rule in general still is and there's no one challenging it.

I didn't know that. Thanks.

That's like saying United have an advantage over others because of their popularity and the possibilty of signing better sponsoring deals. What's so special about it? It's not like Bayern are the only club with those advertising deals, every club in germany have them. I really don't understand why you keep mentioning these. How much money bring these? How significant is the advantage compared to other leagues or is there any advantage at all? Without numbers that's just speculation on your part without any substance to it.

No it is not the same with United. I am not talking about the commercial revenues but advertising revenues from broadcasting.

The FA sells the premier league as a product and hence the broadcasting revenues are more evenly divided. Whereas in Germany, Bayern are allowed to sell advertising for their telecast matches and hence the advantage over other clubs. Is that really speculation on my part?

I am not talking about shirt or other sponsorship deals. Which are up to a clubs marketing department to sell.
 
respect to bayerns way of running a club.

the only 'bad' thing i have is the timing of announcing Gøtze
 
I didn't know that. Thanks.



No it is not the same with United. I am not talking about the commercial revenues but advertising revenues from broadcasting.

The FA sells the premier league as a product and hence the broadcasting revenues are more evenly divided. Whereas in Germany, Bayern are allowed to sell advertising for their telecast matches and hence the advantage over other clubs. Is that really speculation on my part?

I am not talking about shirt or other sponsorship deals. Which are up to a clubs marketing department to sell.
Do you have a source for that? All I know is that the clubs sell the advertisers around the pitch themselves, which of course creates more revenue for Bayern than for the other teams. But I doubt that's really significant. Maybe I simply don't get what you mean exactly, I really would like to understand it though, if it's true.

The german football league (DFL) sells the Bundesliga (actually both 1. and 2. Bundesliga) as a product as well and the revenues are divided for all 36 clubs. 80% go to the clubs in the first league, 20% to the clubs in the second league. The distribution key for those 80% in the 1. Bundesliga isn't as fair as in the premier league, but it's not bad for the smaller clubs at all and I think it's great that the clubs in the 2. Bundesliga benefit from the popularity of the 1. Bundesliga as well.
 
respect to bayerns way of running a club.

the only 'bad' thing i have is the timing of announcing Gøtze

Well they didn't really announce it to be fair.

It's also stupid from Dortmund officials to make it possible to trigger the buy out clause during a season, but I guess they have learned from this mistake, even though it might have been a very costly one.
 
Well it's they didn't really announce it to be fair.

It's also stupid from Dortmund officials to make it possible to trigger the buy out clause during a season, but I guess they have learned from this mistake, even though it might have been a very costly one.

The clause had to be taken until 30.04. I think Dortmund's intention was that they would know very early about him leaving so they'd still be the first one on the market for his replacement.
Even 37mil don't do you no good if you can't spend them wisely. Just imagine Götze would've triggered his clause a month from now. De Bruyne and Eriksen would probably already be signed by Leverkusen and Liverpool before Dortmund even knew about Götze's intention to leave.
 
That was your chance to pounce. You also messed up on the third spot in the season before last.

Who knows how many points they'll pick up next season. Did anyone imagine City only garnering 78 points and finishing 11 points behind United? Most pundits and opposition fans had this as our worst team (again) and City as champions before the start of the season.

Rubbish amount of money? You mean £28m-£30m instead of £33m? How much did you miss out on by not qualifying on the champions league? Also, there is a possibility that your best player may leave because you don't have champions league football to offer. So well done holding on to Modric till the end.

Spurs fans are hilarious. Earlier they thought they were nailed on to finish in the top 4 and they didn't shy away from opening their big mouths. Now, they're doing well given their resources. Good lord.

Our chance to 'pounce' by picking up 6 points more than our premier league record? Yep, a walk in the park that.

I have no idea how many points they'll pick up next season. Predicting football is a fool's game for me. There's a rather clear correlation though between the amount of money spent (especially with regards to the wage bill) and position in the league, especially in the long term.

Glad to know you have an ear in the upper echelons of Spurs' board room and can tell us exactly the bids coming in for our players and who we will be buying and selling. I'll make sure to message you in the upcoming months for insider info about our transfer goings on.

Spurs fans are hilarious. :lol: Where do you get this crap? Firstly, I was unaware that Spurs fans are a monolithic body, who think and decide simultaneously.

I personally saw very few Spurs fans who thought we were nailed on for top 4, while out and about, while at WHL or on any of the forums. I'm sure you've met a broad spectrum of Spurs fans though, who all told you how nailed on we were for top 4.

http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/showthread.php?2351-What-position-will-we-finish

From a relatively small Spurs board. 60 people voted. 1 voted champions jokingly, 2 for relegation likewise. So out of 57, 42 thought we'd finish out of the top 4 this season.

And personally, my expectations at the beginning of the season were 5th/6th with a robust challenge for 4th. Which is what we did.

Please continue spouting stereotypical crap though.
 
The clause had to be taken until 30.04. I think Dortmund's intention was that they would know very early about him leaving so they'd still be the first one on the market for his replacement.
Even 37mil don't do you no good if you can't spend them wisely. Just imagine Götze would've triggered his clause a month from now. De Bruyne and Eriksen would probably already be signed by Leverkusen and Liverpool before Dortmund even knew about Götze's intention to leave.

Good point but the problems it caused, it almost backfired, well they got to the final anyways, so despite all the drama it wasn't such a huge problem after all.

But since Watzke said they won't be putting any buy out clauses into contracts anymore it won't be a problem for them either way.
 
Dortmund had no choice. Götze wouldn't have extended his contract without a buyout clause. It's easy to judge these clauses but for non-top sides they are often the only possibility to keep top players or top talents for a bit longer.
 
Most pundits and opposition fans had this as our worst team (again) and City as champions before the start of the season.

Seems to happen every year, somehow. We're nearly always tipped to fall out of top 3, yet we've never finished outside of the top 3 in over 20 years. Alan Shearer's "never write off the Germans" mantra seems to be the exact opposite when talking about United. Always write United off.
 
It isn't Bayerns fault that Gotze is too scared to leave Germany.

There's only Bayern he could go to from Dortmund such is the lack of competition in the league.
 
Seems to happen every year, somehow. We're nearly always tipped to fall out of top 3, yet we've never finished outside of the top 3 in over 20 years. Alan Shearer's "never write off the Germans" mantra seems to be the exact opposite when talking about United. Always write United off.

Very rarely are United tipped to finish outside of the top 4. I don't know where you're getting the idea from that it happens regularly to be honest. The last time anyone would've really done it with conviction I imagine would've been around the sort of 2005 or 2006 period.
 
Very rarely are United tipped to finish outside of the top 4. I don't know where you're getting the idea from that it happens regularly to be honest. The last time anyone would've really done it with conviction I imagine would've been around the sort of 2005 or 2006 period.

I should've put top 2 rather than top 3, but the past couple of years, pundits seem to favour Chelsea and City to finish above us. Before that it was Chelsea and even sometimes Arsenal and Liverpool. I post on a few mixed fan forums (Sky Sports, TeamTalk) and those nutters on there continuously write off United's chances before the season starts, because every year its the usual "worst United team in a decade" or whatever.

First MOTD of the season, Shearer almost always writes off United. Pretty sure he didn't tip us to win the league even after we signed RvP. I'm sure he'll do it again this August.
 
It isn't Bayerns fault that Gotze is too scared to leave Germany.

There's only Bayern he could go to from Dortmund such is the lack of competition in the league.

He was a Bayern fan growing up and to be fair he's joining the best side in the world at the moment, where could he possibly go and be better off?
 
Apparently Dortmund want €30m for him and Bayern won't give a penny over €20m. Official sources claim that there has been no contact between the two clubs though, so his agent must have spoken to Bayern without permission.

Dortmund would probably prefer to sell him abroad and they wouldn't be short of offers - Chelsea need a striker and are about to miss out on Falcao, City could do with another forward, even Real Madrid could replace Higuain with him. Problem is Bayern are prepared to offer him extra-ordinary wages as well as massive commision to the fecking cretin of a man Kucharski so he won't put him anywhere else.

I'd laugh hard if Dortmund decided to keep him for another season and Bayern went for someone else. I'm not even sure Bayern need him at all, Mandzukic is a good striker and in Guardiola's system goals will come from the likes of Götze, Muller, Ribery and a few others. They might not need a 30 goals a season striker at all.

I wonder if Lewandowski is going to feel he's too big for Bayern in a couple of years too. Kucharski's comments about Dortmund have been nothing short of disgraceful, especially over the last couple of months. Without Klopp Lewandowski would be a nobody, a nothing striker playing for Blackburn, Newcastle or West Brom and he's shown absolutely no gratitude for what he's done for him.
 
He was a Bayern fan growing up and to be fair he's joining the best side in the world at the moment, where could he possibly go and be better off?

He could go to a number of other places and have great success.

I think for whatever reason, maybe personal, he was keen to stay in Germany so his options were Bayern or remain at Dortmund.
 
He could go to a number of other places and have great success.

I think for whatever reason, maybe personal, he was keen to stay in Germany so his options were Bayern or remain at Dortmund.

Don't think that's true. It was the case with Neuer who clearly stated he doesn't want to go anywhere else. I'm pretty sure Götze loves the idea of playing under Guardiola, probably in the hope of becoming the next global football superstar. He wanted a release clause in his contract with Bayern as well, so he clearly plans to move on at some point.
 
Don't think that's true. It was the case with Neuer who clearly stated he doesn't want to go anywhere else. I'm pretty sure Götze loves the idea of playing under Guardiola, probably in the hope of becoming the next global football superstar. He wanted a release clause in his contract with Bayern as well, so he clearly plans to move on at some point.

What is not true?
 
I think he would have gone abroad if Bayern were still a tier behind the top teams in europe like 5 years ago. I can't think of anything that suggests he chose Bayern because he was keen to stay in Germany, so I don't believe that's true.
 
I think he would have gone abroad if Bayern were still a tier behind the top teams in europe like 5 years ago. I can't think of anything that suggests he chose Bayern because he was keen to stay in Germany, so I don't believe that's true.

I have always got the impression he was keen to stay in Germany, hence why no one else has triggered his release clause. It seems it was simply left to Bayern as clubs knew he didn't want to go elsewhere.
 
:) I touched the wrong nerve. Sorry about that.

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Our chance to 'pounce' by picking up 6 points more than our premier league record? Yep, a walk in the park that.

Congratulations on the 6 extra points. Now you have something else common with your bitter rivals from North London - highest point trophy to compete with their top 4 cup.

Picking up highest points means zilch if you cannot reach your ultimate goal, mate. We secured 89 points last season and lost the league on goal difference. The same points won us the league with an 11 point gap this season. So?

The fact is that both those teams were in vulnerable positions and you failed to take advantage and finished 5th.

I have no idea how many points they'll pick up next season. Predicting football is a fool's game for me. There's a rather clear correlation though between the amount of money spent (especially with regards to the wage bill) and position in the league, especially in the long term.

I'll keep that mind and lower my realistic expectations to third in the future as we have the third highest wage bill in England.

Glad to know you have an ear in the upper echelons of Spurs' board room and can tell us exactly the bids coming in for our players and who we will be buying and selling. I'll make sure to message you in the upcoming months for insider info about our transfer goings on.

No, I don't have an ear in the upper echelons of Spurs' board room but do I get the news from the same source that told you that you would have picked up rubbish amount of money if you sold him early. We both definitely should share notes. Will look forward to your PM's during the muppet season. We can be PM mates. Yay!

The quality of an administrator is to make decisions that help the club and enhance their standing. A few million on a transfer or shady deals with Belgium clubs to sign teenagers doesn't make someone smart or crafty.

Spurs fans are hilarious. :lol: Where do you get this crap? Firstly, I was unaware that Spurs fans are a monolithic body, who think and decide simultaneously.

I personally saw very few Spurs fans who thought we were nailed on for top 4, while out and about, while at WHL or on any of the forums. I'm sure you've met a broad spectrum of Spurs fans though, who all told you how nailed on we were for top 4.

http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/showthread.php?2351-What-position-will-we-finish

From a relatively small Spurs board. 60 people voted. 1 voted champions jokingly, 2 for relegation likewise. So out of 57, 42 thought we'd finish out of the top 4 this season.

Yeah, some rubbish preseason poll is the best way to judge how your fans felt when you were comfortably etched in the 3rd spot. Obviously I don't freaking know every Spurs fan. I made the comment based on what I read on forums and from others that I met in pubs etc. Most were convinced that Spurs will secure a top 4 finish.

And personally, my expectations at the beginning of the season were 5th/6th with a robust challenge for 4th. Which is what we did.

Please continue spouting stereotypical crap though.

That is a good way to lead life, nothing wrong with that. Lowering ambition and expectations causes less heartache. Good on you, mate. .
 
I have always got the impression he was keen to stay in Germany, hence why no one else has triggered his release clause. It seems it was simply left to Bayern as clubs knew he didn't want to go elsewhere.

The we reports that in fact City had offered him even better wages then Bayern which was the main reason why they had to offer him such a huge contract.

He decided against the better offer from City simply because wanted to work with Guardiola, otherwise he might not even have joined Bayern next year.

On top of that Götze is supposed to be number one on Guardiolas wish list for next season on top of that he is joining one of the best clubs in Europe which will continue challenging for every big trophy in the foreseeable future.

He is still very young though and it might very well be that in 5-6 years, when Guardiola probably won't be the Bayern coach anymore, he decides it's time to move abroad.

He also has quite a few friends at Bayern from the national team already, so all in all I think it was the most logical move for him.

A mercenary environment like that at City coupled with the challenge to adopt to a new league might have been a little too risky for him at his stage of his career, so I think you can't really blame him for choosing the saver option, even though he is far from guaranteed having a starting spot for Bayern immediately.
 
We must be paying more in wages than Chelsea, their squad is so much smaller than ours. Pretty sure only City have a higher wage bill.
 
For the 2011-2012 season we were third in the league behind City (~£202m) & Chelsea (~£173m). Ours was ~£163m.

Chelsea has a lot of players on loan and I don't think the loan clubs take the full wage burden.
 
Fair enough, though obviously the stat is a little old, so won't reflect various players in and out at both clubs, and Rooney's new contract. I think our bill is above 180m now. Chelsea's might be too though.
 
The we reports that in fact City had offered him even better wages then Bayern which was the main reason why they had to offer him such a huge contract.

He decided against the better offer from City simply because wanted to work with Guardiola, otherwise he might not even have joined Bayern next year.

On top of that Götze is supposed to be number one on Guardiolas wish list for next season on top of that he is joining one of the best clubs in Europe which will continue challenging for every big trophy in the foreseeable future.

He is still very young though and it might very well be that in 5-6 years, when Guardiola probably won't be the Bayern coach anymore, he decides it's time to move abroad.

He also has quite a few friends at Bayern from the national team already, so all in all I think it was the most logical move for him.

A mercenary environment like that at City coupled with the challenge to adopt to a new league might have been a little too risky for him at his stage of his career, so I think you can't really blame him for choosing the saver option, even though he is far from guaranteed having a starting spot for Bayern immediately.

Why would he choose City over Bayern anyway? Worse team, worse club, worse fans, less recognition. It'd be extemely weird if he'd gone to City over Bayern.
 
:) I touched the wrong nerve. Sorry about that.

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Congratulations on the 6 extra points. Now you have something else common with your bitter rivals from North London - highest point trophy to compete with their top 4 cup.

Picking up highest points means zilch if you cannot reach your ultimate goal, mate. We secured 89 points last season and lost the league on goal difference. The same points won us the league with an 11 point gap this season. So?

The fact is that both those teams were in vulnerable positions and you failed to take advantage and finished 5th.



I'll keep that mind and lower my realistic expectations to third in the future as we have the third highest wage bill in England.



No, I don't have an ear in the upper echelons of Spurs' board room but do I get the news from the same source that told you that you would have picked up rubbish amount of money if you sold him early. We both definitely should share notes. Will look forward to your PM's during the muppet season. We can be PM mates. Yay!

The quality of an administrator is to make decisions that help the club and enhance their standing. A few million on a transfer or shady deals with Belgium clubs to sign teenagers doesn't make someone smart or crafty.



Yeah, some rubbish preseason poll is the best way to judge how your fans felt when you were comfortably etched in the 3rd spot. Obviously I don't freaking know every Spurs fan. I made the comment based on what I read on forums and from others that I met in pubs etc. Most were convinced that Spurs will secure a top 4 finish.



That is a good way to lead life, nothing wrong with that. Lowering ambition and expectations causes less heartache. Good on you, mate. .

What are you talking about? We didn't get the extra 6 points, hence why Chelsea finished 3rd and we finished 5th. We needed to break our PL points record by 6 points to finish above Chelsea in their poor season, our 'chance to pounce'. We were only able to add 2. Obviously, adding 6 points to your record total, especially at this end of the table, is an absolute doddle right?

Well, without the best manager of all time, you may have to, we'll see I guess. And there is a difference between the wage bill discrepancies for you (10 million less than Chelsea, 40 million less than Man City when you have a total of 160 already) and us (53 behind Arsenal and 83 behind Chelsea, when our wage bill is 90).

How can they be the same sources if you're saying the early offers were only 2 or 3 million less?


Look at the 10 seasons before Levy and ENIC came to own Spurs and look at the 10 seasons or so since (or 12 I guess if we're being pedantic.) Then tell me whether you think Tottenham have been enhanced and helped in comparison to what came before.



Oh, you talked to a lot of Spurs fans did you in the 19 days we spent in 3rd place? :lol: And you found a lot of Spurs fans online and at the pub who happened to be saying this? Meanwhile, a poll, a more representative browse of Spurs forms over the whole season and being at WHL are rubbish. Clearly...

A good way to lead life is to objectively assess the situation and decide which outcome is statistically the most likely? I completely agree, glad you do too.
 
What are you talking about? We didn't get the extra 6 points, hence why Chelsea finished 3rd and we finished 5th. We needed to break our PL points record by 6 points to finish above Chelsea in their poor season, our 'chance to pounce'. We were only able to add 2. Obviously, adding 6 points to your record total, especially at this end of the table, is an absolute doddle right?

Again the point gibberish..sigh

The whole point was the you didn't get enough points to win a top 4 finish and hence it was a failure.

The point (again point) I was trying to make was you could have "doddled" it by being smart in the market. Nothing is guaranteed but what you do is give your best effort and take your chances. Which in my opinion you lot did not do.


Well, without the best manager of all time, you may have to, we'll see I guess. And there is a difference between the wage bill discrepancies for you (10 million less than Chelsea, 40 million less than Man City when you have a total of 160 already) and us (53 behind Arsenal and 83 behind Chelsea, when our wage bill is 90).

That's nothing but an excuse.

Also, we are talking about seasons when those team did not do well inspite of their wage bills.

We'll do well without the greatest manager in the world. Do not worry about it.

How can they be the same sources if you're saying the early offers were only 2 or 3 million less?

Did I say 2m-3m less? I said £28m-£30m instead of £33m, which were figures quoted in the press. I know they are hardly ever accurate and talk a lot of bullshit but I am sure you weren't getting fleeced as "your source" suggested.

Oh, you talked to a lot of Spurs fans did you in the 19 days we spent in 3rd place? :lol: And you found a lot of Spurs fans online and at the pub who happened to be saying this? Meanwhile, a poll, a more representative browse of Spurs forms over the whole season and being at WHL are rubbish. Clearly...

A good way to lead life is to objectively assess the situation and decide which outcome is statistically the most likely? I completely agree, glad you do too.

:lol: Actually I did throughout the entire season and a lot of them were very confident until the very last month. I have a couple of friends who support Spurs too. You want me to ask them to call you?

But yeah, feel free to quote some nonsense poll done in August to prove that Spurs fans weren't shooting their load in anticipation of a top 4 finish.

If you want to discuss this further, let's take it to a Spurs thread. Let's not bore others in the Lewandoski thread.
 
Again the point gibberish..sigh

The whole point was the you didn't get enough points to win a top 4 finish and hence it was a failure.

The point (again point) I was trying to make was you could have "doddled" it by being smart in the market. Nothing is guaranteed but what you do is give your best effort and take your chances. Which in my opinion you lot did not do.




That's nothing but an excuse.

Also, we are talking about seasons when those team did not do well inspite of their wage bills.

We'll do well without the greatest manager in the world. Do not worry about it.



Did I say 2m-3m less? I said £28m-£30m instead of £33m, which were figures quoted in the press. I know they are hardly ever accurate and talk a lot of bullshit but I am sure you weren't getting fleeced as "your source" suggested.



:lol: Actually I did throughout the entire season and a lot of them were very confident until the very last month. I have a couple of friends who support Spurs too. You want me to ask them to call you?

But yeah, feel free to quote some nonsense poll done in August to prove that Spurs fans weren't shooting their load in anticipation of a top 4 finish.

If you want to discuss this further, let's take it to a Spurs thread. Let's not bore others in the Lewandoski thread.

All complete and utter bollocks but as you said, let's leave it there. Nobody wants to read about Spurs, certainly not in a Lewandowski thread.


Anyway, I sincerely hope he stays and if he doesn't, that Dortmund force him abroad to Spain instead./
 
Why would he choose City over Bayern anyway? Worse team, worse club, worse fans, less recognition. It'd be extemely weird if he'd gone to City over Bayern.

You seem to forget the most important factor these days - cash money.
 
If RL is not signing for Spurs, wtf are Spuds doin in this thread? :lol:

Im intrigued how this bizarre digression occurred, but unsurprisingly not nearly enough to read back and find out....

If that's your logic then why do you not mind United fans posting in this thread? We're probably not signing him either.
 
If he ends up going to Bayern for free he will get crazy money if he goes this year he will get good money regardless. Bayern are more stable look set to dominate for a few years, he knows the language and the country.
 
Bayern offered him €12m a year, I doubt City would top that.

I highly doubt that, no one is earning that much at Bayern, maybe if Lewandowski joins Bayern on a free next year but definitely not when we have to pay more than 20m on transfer fee this summer. Rumours are that Götze could reach 12m with all bonus payments next seasons (which probably means Bayern needs to win the treble for him to get 12m) and City offered Götze a lot more, if we believe what is written in german newspapers.
 
Bayern offered him €12m a year, I doubt City would top that.

Bayerns players salaries are often split between what the club pays them, plus an advertising contract with Audi, adidas, or similar.. so the club can say they pay 5Mio, and the sponsor pays the rest. Been like this with Luca Toni and Ribery, also with Deisler iirc.
 
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