Who plays it?
What would you even call it? It's not a diamond so feck knows why you mentioned that in your last post.
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Who plays it?
What would you even call it? It's not a diamond so feck knows why you mentioned that in your last post.
It'd amaze me if we're in for him - I just don't understand where he'd fit in.
Who said it was a diamond? A diamond is a narrow formation just like the one I listed. Kagawa and Rooney would come inside yes, so do Silva and Nasri. So do Ribery and Muller. So do Gotze and Reus. But no, a narrow formation isnt for us. Its not like we've tried one this very season but with central midfielders playing the wider midfield positons.
What would I call it? I wouldnt call it anything, why would I name it? What a weird idea.
He's currently one of the best strikers in the world and he'd be available at a relative cut price due to his contractual situation - why wouldn't we be interested?
Lets not forget RVP's hardly a spring chicken even though we only brought him in last summer
You're actually comparing that to Bayern's and Dortmund's team? You complete nutter, they are nothing alike. They both play a clear 4-2-3-1 and all players suit the role, Reus, Muller, Ribery, Robben, Blaszczykowski (convenient you missed him out).. They are all more than comfortable out wide. That rubbish you posted is nothing like their formations at all. What would you call it.. as in was it a 4-2-3-1 or something else. What a wierd idea to name the formations properly
Surely it's a 4-2-2-2 with a slightly deeper second striker.
No?
No?
I don't get the transfer because we currently have two of the best strikers in the world and two very good back-up strikers. RvP is pretty much unbenchable for me due to how good he is, which leaves one spot among 4 other players if he was to come here - 5 if we want to see the best out of Kagawa. It'd be more understandable if it was another club, one which is prepared to sit a player on the bench for much of the season, but we rarely go 2/3 games without every striker getting a game.
It'd mean a drastic change in how we see one of our other strikers. Either Welbeck will be seen as a winger for the next couple of years, Rooney a midfielder or one of them is sold. You could also consider Kagawa playing outwide.
Could be, which is why I asked him. Ekeke just writing some names down and insisting it will work tells us very little.
But yeah I dunno, could be that, could be a narrow 4-2-3-1 like City with RVP playing deeper the way Aguero and Tevez have.
The way he compared it to Dortmund and Bayern implies it's more likely City's than the 4-2-2-2 you suggested though Nev. He probably doesn't know himself what the hell he is talking about.
If I was fitting those players in the only way I could see it working would be in the PSG 4-2-2-2, with Rooney and Kagawa as the "in-between (wide and central)" players, with one of the forwards slightly deeper.
That's what the formation he wrote up looks most like to me, anyway.
Simply because I'm in muppet mode over the prospect of this signing, how about:
Two attacking wing backs, Jones with a license to be Phil Jones and bomb forwards at times, room in the team for 3 central forward players capable of rotating and drifting into wide positions.
Phwoar or what!
RvP - Lewandowski
Rooney
Carrick - Cleverley
Fabio--------------------------Rafael
Evans Jones Smalling
DDG
Rooney
Carrick - Cleverley
Fabio--------------------------Rafael
Evans Jones Smalling
DDG
Two attacking wing backs, Jones with a license to be Phil Jones and bomb forwards at times, room in the team for 3 central forward players capable of rotating and drifting into wide positions.
Phwoar or what!
-----------De Gea----------
Rafael---Vidic---Ferdinand--Evra
Valencia--Carrick--Rooney--Kagawa
-----Lewandowski--Van Persie-----
It would just be that.
Rafael---Vidic---Ferdinand--Evra
Valencia--Carrick--Rooney--Kagawa
-----Lewandowski--Van Persie-----
It would just be that.
Let's go Italian:
Lewandowski - RvP
Kagawa - Rooney - Cleverley
Carrick
Come on now. That is pure
That would be pretty entertaining. Didn't Real used to use that formation?
Rooney will never be a regular choice for SAF in central midfield. If Lewandowski is signed, I feel that is the end of Rooney.
In my dream world, we will not sign a striker, and Rooney will get his head down and be at his very best. I would much rather have Rooney at his best, than Lewandowski. Rooney at his best would be amongst the best 10 players in the world.
The last year I just feel that it's a matter of motivation and fitness with Rooney. How I miss him at his best.
If we could still find a place for Welbeck, a misfiring striker cum winger, we sure as hell will find a spot for quality striker like Lewandowski. If that means we have to sell Chica, so be it!
If it doesn't work well, we'll still get our investment back easily from his sale.
The way we played against Madrid at Barnebau, we use 4-2-3-1 with 3 strikers. So, I can see us come with:
RL
RvP--------------Winger
Kagawa---Rooney
Carrick
x--------Back Four---------x
GK
RvP--------------Winger
Kagawa---Rooney
Carrick
x--------Back Four---------x
GK
With Rooney, Kagawa, and RvP rotating places.
This is getting serious with each quote from the man, himself.
Looks like the tactic for the next season will be to outscore everyone in the league and Europe.
Looks like the tactic for the next season will be to outscore everyone in the league and Europe.
That's always the tactic VP
He is in it, no doubt about that!
That's always the tactic VP
From recent news, looks like this time, he's pushing it extremely to the 1999 striker's lineup depth.
It may even cause change of role for Welbeck and another loan for Henriquez, as Young and Zaha can also play in forward.
Is Rob Lewandowski really worth it all ? Is Rooney gonna step into deeper formation without showing little discontent, there ? Rotation may be the answer, though... as it always was in the past seasons.
This may shake team a little but we definitely searching for an optimal formation and tactic... Score huge amount without conceding too much.
It's so on now.
So after RVP has banged in 28 goals in his first season for us and on course to win the golden boot, we should play him as a #10 next season to make space for Lewandowski. And Rooney's a natural #10, he's been playing like that for decades, its not like Football Manager where you can re-train a new position overnight.
Lewandowski is a great talent, but lets face it, we are not going to play our two best strikers out of position to accommodate him. Its not going to improve things much, and definitely not the answer to our woes this season.
If we sign him,
I am worried. What happens to Chicharito, Rooney and Welbeck.
If SAF uses welbeck on the wing and Rooney drops in midfield then we would be ok but we all know Rooney likes to play behind the striker.
There is no way this would be an easy signing. No Berbatov repeat plzzzz
I am worried. What happens to Chicharito, Rooney and Welbeck.
If SAF uses welbeck on the wing and Rooney drops in midfield then we would be ok but we all know Rooney likes to play behind the striker.
There is no way this would be an easy signing. No Berbatov repeat plzzzz
A number of us thought RvP was surplus to requirements.
Had not seen much of Lewandowski prior to Wednesday. He reminded me of RvN in the penalty area. He also retained and shielded the ball very well with his back to goal.
May be Hernandez is the player to make way if he was to be signed?
Had not seen much of Lewandowski prior to Wednesday. He reminded me of RvN in the penalty area. He also retained and shielded the ball very well with his back to goal.
May be Hernandez is the player to make way if he was to be signed?
This guys hardly a Berbatov, he's quicker, he's clinical, he's an upgrade to 2/4 strikers we have... I had my doubts as to whether he was an upgrade to Rooney & RvP.. but after that 4 goal performance and the 3rd goal especially, if Fergie really rates him, then we should try to get him.. as he's probably worth it.
Just because a good player is available we shouldn't buy him for the sake of it. We have arguably one of the best attacks in world football at the moment unless somebody is sold there's no room for him. Spend the cash somewhere else, there's a few places that need improving in our squad before getting yet another striker.
Even if he is a upgrade over 2 out of the 4 strikers. He'll be 3rd choice. Will he come to play that role here when he can be a regular at Bayern? Just seems weird to me.
If there is someone out there who is better, then why say no? buy him and sell the lesser players in your attack, one's who aren't really likely to make an impact in the biggest of games. It's ruthless but Fergie is ruthless and is hungry for that third CL win. If we do get him, Hernandez & Rooney's futures are at risk..
SAF already said Hernandez isn't going anywhere and although Lewandowski is a top striker is it really worth selling Rooney to get him? I dont know about that. Hernandez barely gets a game as it is and Kagawa rarely gets to play his best position due to the quality we have upfront, I just feel another striker could do more harm than good at this stage. Im not against buying top players and id probably still be buzzing if we signed Lewandowski but id be gutted if Hernandez or Rooney were sold.
That's the big question, none of us have the insight to daily life in and around the first team to establish whether or not it is... we don't know if Fergie thinks Rooney is physically in decline and tired of his sloppiness when it comes to maintaining a fitness regime, or whether he feels like letting go of Rooney and the likes of Nani/Anderson will make the squad more professional and have the right sort of character within the squad. Or if it was to happen whether it's a more tactical decision.
When it comes to players outside of midfield positions, he usually knows what he's doing... he wouldn't get rid of a player without some serious thought behind the decision - best to just see how this pans out.
I really think that it will be Hernandez who leaves if anyone. The amount of games that he got this year indicates that. Someone will pay an handsome fee for him. He has been touted as a replacement for Falcao at A Madrid.
SAF is talking about Lewi like he rarely talks about any player. It certainly seems that the interest is real. If the stories about Lewandowski from last summer are true, he is a Man Utd fan with a desire to play here.
I think that a realistic formation featuring mystery signing number 2 could be
-------Carrick-------Cleverley--------
--------------Rooney------------------
-Lewandowski--------------Bale-------
----------------RVP-------------------
To support such an attacking line up I kind of think that we would need another defensively adept midfield partner for Carrick. Yes Gundogan is the perfect man for that job.
SAF is talking about Lewi like he rarely talks about any player. It certainly seems that the interest is real. If the stories about Lewandowski from last summer are true, he is a Man Utd fan with a desire to play here.
I think that a realistic formation featuring mystery signing number 2 could be
-------Carrick-------Cleverley--------
--------------Rooney------------------
-Lewandowski--------------Bale-------
----------------RVP-------------------
To support such an attacking line up I kind of think that we would need another defensively adept midfield partner for Carrick. Yes Gundogan is the perfect man for that job.
Has anyone posted this already?
Let the ***ping begin.
Let the ***ping begin.
I suspect signing of Lewandowski will means Rooney will go this summer.
Or moving him to midfield
Rooney isn't good enough for midfield he gets caught in possession too often and always looks for the Hollywood ball (he's even worse than Gerrard at that). His short passing is often sloppy too. Yes he'll play a ball like the one to RVP every now and again but that's not enough for me.
I still think we'll miss out on Lewandowski
Yep. I suspect he'd rather play upfront and all. But yeah he's just not a midfielder.
If Lewandoski comes then Rooney will be a goner.
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