I definitely wouldnt mind him here at all but the amounts being touted around sure seem huge even for a player of his quality since he will have less than 12 months to run on his contract come this summer.
Robert Lewandowski
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Seems small compared to Young
Thats because Young was English and was overrated.
Indeed. Dortmund are on the verge of the final, SAF thinks they'll win it and they obviously have assembled a really good team. Somehow, all the talk seems to be on how they will sell their best players. Why ? Something doesn't quite gel unless they are in some kind of financial trouble.
Key players are not signing new contracts to commit to the club. That's why they are being targeted by bigger, richer clubs.
True. But it would seem silly to refuse to pay a bit more for a miles better player
Lewa's 3rd goal vs Madrid was incredible. The fluidity and easy with which he turned and finished was quite sexual.
I don't know the exact figure but I know it'll be a good few million he's going to ask for, he's been bragging about it in the press for a while.
With most top clubs, transfers of such a nature with top players are probably agreed upon in advance if not in paper, certainly in principle. The likes of Gotze and Lewandowski, probably met representatives or talked at least to the clubs they want to join long in advance of any knowledge that Dortmund were capable of reaching the CL final... and probably took into account the fact Bayern look unstoppable in the league and will have Guardiola joining them next year - so success the year after looked unlikely.
I think its naive to think that players don't talk to other clubs until the transfer window opens, so in light of that.. its understandable that the players in question wanted to go to an established top club with the quality to regularly challenge for the top trophies and get paid a fair whack for doing it - in hindsight, they might feel they moved a tad early as this is clearly no average team but there's no doubting in terms of the money they can demand.. they're at their peak right now - whole of europe is captivated and wants to nick their players.
Lewandowski plays in the exact same position as Van Persie. There's no way we're able to accommodate both him and RVP in the same team without either one sacrificing their natural game. Rooney in CM is only effective against the lesser teams. I can't see SAF playing him there against the bigger teams.
If we buy Lewandoski, it will be like the Berbatov situation again. Buying a player that we don't really need and unable to fit into the system. Its already the same thing with Kagawa because Rooney plays in his position and the only position we can put him in is the left wing where he's obviously isn't very good at.
Despite Lewandowski's talent, I doubt we will get him. He's a phenomenal striker but unless Rooney is leaving, the chances of this transfer happening are quite small in my eyes. For one, we're not paying a ridiculous agent fee. Arguably, we could have got Hazard if we did but we're a club based on principle thanks to Gill and Fergie.
Secondly, you can't get every great player out there. It's an interesting situation with Robert being so young and so good. The only way I can make sense of this transfer is from a long-term view. Most players who make it at United, stay for a while. If we signed him, from a long-term point of view, we'd have a class striker with the likes of Welbeck, Hernandez, and probably another young striker. I'm assuming if we got Lewandowski, we'd sell Rooney because I don't see Rooney being molded into a CM. Nonetheless, we'll be fine if we miss out on this lad. He'd be a great addition but we have to sell some players in my eyes before even thinking of buying this lad.
One thing is for certain, he won't be cheap. We all know how the Glazers are about net spend too.
Secondly, you can't get every great player out there. It's an interesting situation with Robert being so young and so good. The only way I can make sense of this transfer is from a long-term view. Most players who make it at United, stay for a while. If we signed him, from a long-term point of view, we'd have a class striker with the likes of Welbeck, Hernandez, and probably another young striker. I'm assuming if we got Lewandowski, we'd sell Rooney because I don't see Rooney being molded into a CM. Nonetheless, we'll be fine if we miss out on this lad. He'd be a great addition but we have to sell some players in my eyes before even thinking of buying this lad.
One thing is for certain, he won't be cheap. We all know how the Glazers are about net spend too.
Come to think of it more, there's no such thing you can say no to a quality striker like him, if opportunity arise. Fergie might need to think more on the formation to accommodate all, but special player are rarely available. That depends on how high Fergie rate him, though.
By this token we have an obligation to sign Falcao, Lewandowski and Cavani at a bare minimum this summer, after all, 3 world class strikers are on the move and you don't pass up the opportunity to add a world class player to your squad, right?
Another thing is we have people drooling every summer putting players into a hypothetical line up and claiming we'll be unstoppable. This happened last summer, with Rooney having scored 34 goals last season, and he was now to be partnered by Van Persie, we were to be virtually unplayable according to many on here... Fast forward a year and one of them is no longer good enough for us.
It's rare for a team to have 2 strikers boasting huge goal tallies, we've seen the way Rooney didn't hit 30+ goals until Ronaldo left, or the way his goalscoring has suffered this year with Van Persie being the main man. Sticking Lewandowski up front with RVP and taking it as a given they're both going to score 40 goals a piece and form an amazing partnership is highly presumptuous and optimistic given they're both currently playing the same role in their respective teams, and that couldn't be the case if we had both of them.
And that's before I go into the huge slap in the face it would be to so many of our players.
Is this the post, Dominos?
You're not the only one.
We have so many saying "if a class player is available, you make room for them"... By this token we have an obligation to sign Falcao, Lewandowski and Cavani at a bare minimum this summer, after all, 3 world class strikers are on the move and you don't pass up the opportunity to add a world class player to your squad, right?
Another thing is we have people drooling every summer putting players into a hypothetical line up and claiming we'll be unstoppable. This happened last summer, with Rooney having scored 34 goals last season, and he was now to be partnered by Van Persie, we were to be virtually unplayable according to many on here... Fast forward a year and one of them is no longer good enough for us
It's rare for a team to have 2 strikers boasting huge goal tallies, we've seen the way Rooney didn't hit 30+ goals until Ronaldo left, or the way his goalscoring has suffered this year with Van Persie being the main man. Sticking Lewandowski up front with RVP and taking it as a given they're both going to score 40 goals a piece and form an amazing partnership is highly presumptuous and optimistic given they're both currently playing the same role in their respective teams, and that couldn't be the case if we had both of them.
And that's before I go into the huge slap in the face it would be to so many of our players, as you touched upon.
Thank you Damien, I've just stuck it in my original post, I put it much better the first time.
Couldn't a fluid front 3 or 4 work? Kagawa, RVP and Lewa are all comfortable receiving the ball anywhere on the pitch. We have seen RVP and Lewa run the channels, as well as playmake from the AM position. Then you have Welbeck, Valencia and Zaha for the final spot and alternatives. Obviously Rooney and Chich are the odd ones out with that scenario though.
As for his price, once he had that performance the local media were always going to get involved. I imagine the 24m rejected last summer would be the maximum with one year remaining on his contract now.
Key point is that SAF is unlikely to employ that kind of system over the course of the season.
So would so many here be opposed to us getting a Falcao or a Lewandowsky and then moving Rooney into midfield ?
I certainly wouldn't - imo, Rooney and RvP is not an ideal striking partnership - and I think they both look better when Hernandez is their striking partner.
I certainly wouldn't - imo, Rooney and RvP is not an ideal striking partnership - and I think they both look better when Hernandez is their striking partner.
If there was any way that we could fit Lewandowski, RVP, Rooney and Kagawa in the side together, we'd have one hell of a team. All depends on whether Rooney could adapt long term to play in a deep, box-to box midfield role. I think he definitely has the attributes to do that but whether it's a good idea on not is another matter.
RVP's natural game was as a number 10. He also has the quality to play on the left as he has done lots before.
Rooney will obviously improve playing in midfield week after week. All we've seen so far is a Wayne Rooney asked to play games now and again in the middle, hes not even training the position fulltime let alone concentrating on it. If he does that he'll improve a lot.
The difference with Berbatov is he had no pace and didnt have a good linkup with any player bar perhaps Valencia.
Lewandowski had a world class partnership with Kagawa at Dortmund. We already know that. So if he comes in and develops a good understanding with other players like perhaps Berbatov did with Valencia, then it only goes on top of what we already know about his relationship with Kagawa which was outstanding and almost telepathic.
Kagawa is fine on the left he's just adjusting to the league, Lewandowski will only help that.
In all likelyhood we can try and sign all 3 this summer but we'll be priced out of all but maybe Lewandowski because of his contract situation. So in the end its the same thing as just going for him.
Yeah slap in the face for all those players who signing an extra striker we didnt need last summer got them league winners medals. How dare we.
Midfield is a huge position and I wish we solved this problem by GETTING A MIDFIELD PLAYER rather than trying to convert the players we've already got.
Let's go Italian:
Come on now. That is pure
Lewandowski - RvP
Kagawa - Rooney - Cleverley
Carrick
Kagawa - Rooney - Cleverley
Carrick
Come on now. That is pure
------Lewandowski
-----------RVP
--Kagawa-------Rooney
----Carrick-Cleverley?
-----------RVP
--Kagawa-------Rooney
----Carrick-Cleverley?
@MandyHenryMedia: Sir Alex on Lewandowski:"I don’t think they will sell to Bayern.I think they will let his contract run out or sell him somewhere else" #mufc
It's on mutha feckas
It's on mutha feckas
SAF on Lewandowski: “Have I got room for him? I can find room for anybody.”
Quoted by @forevruntd, who tends to post a lot of quotes.
Even though it's the mirror, it has a lot of quotes.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-transfers-alex-ferguson-1857197
Quoted by @forevruntd, who tends to post a lot of quotes.
Even though it's the mirror, it has a lot of quotes.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-transfers-alex-ferguson-1857197
Complete cluster feck
What a strange signing this would be
Could it just be a wum giving out false quotes.
Fergie really is talking a lot about him. Seems convinced they won't sell to Munich.
have to agree with you for once greyjoy...absolutely no cnut in there would play wide except maybe RVPThis really is an excellent point. It sounds awesome but when you think about it is it really any better than what we have?
I think you are confusing yourself with numbers pulled out of your arse. I have checked up on their market value and 30 to 35 is a realistic estimate.
He's young, quality and available.
We surely have to e interested.
We surely have to e interested.
Dont think you understand a narrow system. He clearly doesnt. We have two of the most attacking fullbacks in the league and we've already experimented with the narrow diamond, just with worse players
Well, that is kind of his point as well.
If its not better than what we have, you'd think our manager would be the first to know about it wouldnt you. Maybe, and very likely, you dont know how good we are or how good we could be. And he might just have a better read on both.
Ayee, it's a great formation. Well done
Its a formation played by professional footballers in professional teams. But some idiot from the internet doesnt like it so its not a good formation.
Don't forget that because if someone doesn't agree with your opinion, it is now null and void.
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