Because we already have world class striker in our team?
Robert Lewandowski
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So we don't sign a player who's clearly readily available, because we have a world class player? I'd rather we had 2 or 3 world class players than signing crap like Ashley Young to make up numbers for a big transfer fee. I remember exactly the same argument being used against Van Persie.
We didn't sign Ashley Young on the idea that he would make up the numbers as a squad player. He's had a fairly disappointing career here but come on, you really think the club would sanction a £15-20m move to fill up squad spaces?
What's the point in having multiple world class players if they all play in the same position? We said it about RvP and it worked out, but now we have RvP and the need for a new striker is even lower than before.
I very much doubt it was like that. But winning the title obviously tops off our credentials just like winning the title topped off Bayern's, so leaves us in a strong position to try and nudge him towards choosing us.
We're clearly interested. The only question is whether Bobby is more interested in United or Bayern so we'll have to wait and see.
We're clearly interested. The only question is whether Bobby is more interested in United or Bayern so we'll have to wait and see.
Possibly not, but for that amount of money, for a player with a year left on his contract the transfer didn't make sense at all. He was a known quantity who, no longer was a young player with potential. He should have been playing almost every week when for the money we payed for him, but even when he was signed there was a lot of people left underwhelmed.
Not if Fergie has plans for Rooney in the midfield, or wants rid. Signing Lewandowski, surely won't stop us spending elsewhere in the team. Regardless of his love of forwards surely SAF sees we need a midfielder? I just think if a player as good as Lewandowski is becomes available then you should try to sign him.
We signed RVP to win the league. If we sign Lewandowski it'll be to try and win the champions league taking us to the next level.
No striker is not our priority, just like it wasnt when we took RVP. But there isnt a world class central midfielder coming up to a year left on their contract and looking to leave his team. You cant pick and choose those situations, you have to take advantage of what happens when it does.
And on top of that there is no guarantee that we'd sign a midfielder anyway. There have clearly been midfielders out there moving around who are better than ours and we havent signed them. By now we should have learnt not to expect us to sign a potential top central midfielder and especially not dismiss other transfers, banking on us signing that midfielder... Because it could just as easily not happen as with previous summers.
No striker is not our priority, just like it wasnt when we took RVP. But there isnt a world class central midfielder coming up to a year left on their contract and looking to leave his team. You cant pick and choose those situations, you have to take advantage of what happens when it does.
And on top of that there is no guarantee that we'd sign a midfielder anyway. There have clearly been midfielders out there moving around who are better than ours and we havent signed them. By now we should have learnt not to expect us to sign a potential top central midfielder and especially not dismiss other transfers, banking on us signing that midfielder... Because it could just as easily not happen as with previous summers.
Who did we have? If you mean Rooney, he played as a suport striker in last two seasons anyway, and his position was never in danger with van Persie coming, since it was obvious they could play together.
I would rather bring a world class player in position where we actually need him, rather than in our pretty much strongest position.
How exactly do you see Lewandowski taking us up a level to win the Champions League, assuming our squad otherwise stays basically the same (ie no central midfielder).
We'd be lucky to get £20m for Anderson and Nani, combined.
As I said. I just knew it was from an japanese interview. Since I dont speak the language I can only give a take on the translations I have read. Those stated that Kagawa said that Lewandowski sometimes is egoistic. And it kinda goes hand in hand with your translation. Just that it isnt meant in a negative way, especially since I think an striker needs some form of egoism.
And yes. Japanese are very modest, but on the other hand they are very proud. So they would rather see Kagawa make an goal than one of his teammates. Cant blame them for that ,)
We have a player who can be a very good central midfielder in Rooney. All he'd need to do is play there week in week out and it'd refine his game there. He has the advantage of being very experienced in europe, the premier league and at United and with the weight of expectation lifted off him with regards to goals, having RVP and Lewandowski playing ahead of him, he'd be free to concentrate on midfield.
Lewandowski and Kagawa were on fire in their relationship last season. Kagawa hasnt had a brilliant season, I'm sure he'd be back to his best reunited with the striker he played off of to score so many goals and who excels in quick passing movement and interchangable attack. Dortmund's attacking style is superior to ours but we could start to add some elements of it ourselves with 2 former players who were incredible in that system and continuing to move away from out and out winger systems which we already tried to move away from for a spell by experimenting with the diamond.
Right now the option is Lewandowski or no Lewandowski. Not Lewandowski or a CM. We could end up with neither and we'd be much poorer without.
If it's left up to him he'll go to United. His agent will try his best to put him in Bayern because United will definitely not be up for paying €8m commision or however much he's going to ask for.
Their market value is actually between 30 and 35 mill.
That's beyond mental. How the hell can he think he's entitled to that amount of money? More importantly, why the feck would Lewandowski even entertain such shite. He should be paid no more than £100,000 IMO. Even that is scandalous for negotiating one single contract.
Considering his contract will end next year, is he worth more than £20m?
If more than 1 club with money is interested - he could easily be worth £20 million - if not, we could end being lucky to get £15 mil
Correction - sorry I was talking about Nani..
Possibly the hottest striker around his age on the market right now. I'd say yes.
I think £20 million is the correct figure due to his contract situation. However considering how much we overpaid for Ashley Young in the same situation, barely any less than that, £25 million would have to be seen as reasonable for us.
£20 million would be the minimum especially if he continues to score goals in CL. Look at what Hazard & Lucas went for last summer. I feel he won't go for less than £30 million.
Hazard and Lucas weren't in the last year of their contracts, tbf. And Oil club's paid OTT for them.
Think he'll go for 20 to 25 depending on who is signing him.
Think he'll go for 20 to 25 depending on who is signing him.
Good point, he's a steal under 30 considering his age and proven success in the CL and the Bundesliga.
I'd rather drop 30 on him than an unproven Brazilian winger any day...that is IF we didn't need a thoroughbred midfielder.
Personally I feel that it's unlikely he will be going to Bayern, it just seems like a retarded thing for Dortmund to do considering they already sold Gotze to them.
Dortmund should call Arsenal and ask them how selling their best striker off to a league rival worked out.
Dortmund should call Arsenal and ask them how selling their best striker off to a league rival worked out.
How would Arsenal know? They havent sold a striker to Spurs
Don't think we need him but pretty sure we're in for him after Fergie's latest comments.
Not quite sure without meaning any offense how you get you are pretty sure we are in for him when SAF says that it's wonderful achievement etc.. Its blindingly obvious its a great achievement? He didn't say anything like he'd make a great addition to any team etc one of the best, he said for me 'he had a good night' in so many words.... it said quite the opposite to me.
Which is the one position where we're already well stacked in? We've got 4 strikers, 3 of whom can all get us 20+ goals a season so I think the position he was talking about was indeed Lewa and that we'd push the boat out for him even though we already got good players in that position.
We're well stacked everywhere except in central midfield, really.
From the comments in that quote yes, when that's added in it definately leans towards a striker I agree that, I think that's what we was talking about (that quote) in the 'which midfielder will we wsign...' thread, I was just saying solely based on that quote, I wouldn't say that from SAF that was particuarly strong.... I'm never very good at remembering particular words but SAF isn't usually short for praising another player if they have played well from what I can remember anyway, so his comments of Lewa may have just been run of the mill? Whereas someone like CR we know he believes is on another level...
Dortmund should call Arsenal and ask them how selling their best striker off to a league rival worked out.
There will be plenty of clubs willing to part with plenty of cash to get this guy and I imagine we're one of them. I like Dortmund and I'd like to keep my respect for them, but if they're going sell their best players in Gotze and Lewandowski to their main league rivals in the same transfer window then it'd be difficult.
I actually think they've got a bit of sense though and won't be following the Gunners guide of how to conduct business. Still amazes me how close Arsenal came to becoming a fantastic football team and the management/board decided they didn't quite fancy it!
You do know Nani has only one year left in his contract? You could argue that Lewandowski and Van Persie go for over £20m with a year left in their contracts. But they are/were hot in form their last seasons for their clubs. Nani hasnt even played that much this year. That will decrease his value further. The max that I would say we can get for him is £15. And Anderson? Well he is just shit. I doubt we will get more than £10m max for him. So £20-25m is what we might get for the both of them.He best be talking about Bale to be frank!!
He said 'League rival' not main rival. And yes I know Arsenal haven't been title challengers to us like they were in the Vierra and Henry days, its another 2 place gap, but selling RVP to us wasn't the best idea. If Dortmund do that with TWO of their best players to Byern then its not a good strategy is it.
Got to laugh at the Sun posting an 'exclusive' saying Lewandowski to United as the headline, then the very short article is all about how he looks set to join Bayern, only to say at the end that "if United bid £28m United could get him" is that all it takes to get traffic?
is that all it takes to get traffic?Its a completely different thing. Dortmund won the double last season and have clearly prioritised the champions league this season. I picked them as my team to win the thing and Sir Alex has said today he thinks they'll win it. So the two sides are almost neck and neck
Arsenal are almost neck and neck with Spurs. Like usual
I think you are confusing us with Lyon...
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