Robert Lewandowski

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Raees said:
If there is someone out there who is better, then why say no? buy him and sell the lesser players in your attack, one's who aren't really likely to make an impact in the biggest of games. It's ruthless but Fergie is ruthless and is hungry for that third CL win. If we do get him, Hernandez & Rooney's futures are at risk..
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Priorities. Before we improve somewhat one of the strongest areas of the team, we should look for the major improvements needed in the weaker areas.

There's also the risk of overkill. Forget Rooney or Hernandez, I don't see how we can use both Van Persie and Lewandowski to the best of their abilities.
 
I dont wanna see players played out of position anymore. Welbeck shouldnt play on the wings and I hope that Rooney in midfield was just temporary
 
If we need a CM then we should buy a CM. We don't need Lewandowski unless we're selling Rooney
 
Crumpsall Red said:
Rooney isn't good enough for midfield he gets caught in possession too often and always looks for the Hollywood ball (he's even worse than Gerrard at that). His short passing is often sloppy too. Yes he'll play a ball like the one to RVP every now and again but that's not enough for me.
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I completely agree with all of that - I'm baffled why people keep suggesting Rooney will be a central midfielder long term
 
I have absolutely no ITK knowledge. I am merely just another fan. But I have a feeling this deal could be a lot closer than we think.

This is just based on remembering past deals. I have a feeling that this one is happening.

I'll leave it to Fergie how to rotate Van Persie, Kagawa, Lewandowski, Hernandez, Welbeck and Rooney.

Maybe Welbeck can be a permanent Left winger. That's a start.

Lewandowski and v.Persie up front really does get me wet though. That's potentially our best strike-force of all time.
 
Could it be the case that we have decided to sell Rooney? He's on top dollar, he did threw the dummy at us recently and his performance were good, but nowhere near as great as a player on his salary is expected to play. This is also the last occasion of making some real money out of him.
 
The only way we're signing Lewandowski is if we're switching to the diamond full-time, which would be just about the least 'Sir Alex Ferguson' thing ever.

devilish said:
We don't need Lewandowski unless we're selling Rooney
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They don't even play in the same position.
 
Chabon said:
The only way we're signing Lewandowski is if we're switching to the diamond full-time, which would be just about the least 'Sir Alex Ferguson' thing ever.



They don't even play in the same position.
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The last time i checked they were both strikers
 
Nani will be off and Welbeck will be played mainly on the wing would be my guess, Rooney either in behind a striker, in MF or from the left.
 
devilish said:
The last time i checked they were both strikers
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Debatable. He's played the majority of his games this season from deep. In fact I can cant remember a game where he has lead the line.
 
devilish said:
The last time i checked they were both strikers
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Kagawa is Rooneys biggest competition IMO.

But I don't think we'll have a problem, Fergie seems well able to rotate and keep everyone happy.
 
Eyepopper said:
Kagawa is Rooneys biggest competition IMO.

But I don't think we'll have a problem, Fergie seems well able to rotate and keep everyone happy.
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Spending some 30-40m on a striker when you already have rooney, rvp, welbeck, hernandez and kagawa is beyond belief expecially when we need some serious investment in cm.

Ah i forgot we still have giggs there + fletcher and ando will be like 2 new signings for us
 
Chabon said:
So you last checked three years ago then?
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Rooney and lewandoski are both strikers. Saf may play then as right back if he wants to but they are at their best upfront
 
Eyepopper said:
Kagawa is Rooneys biggest competition IMO.

But I don't think we'll have a problem, Fergie seems well able to rotate and keep everyone happy.
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The formation we played that day with the pole in place of Danny seems an obvious choice. That way Danny and Hernandez would each be able to provide cover, and every midfielder we have could play a role in the diamond (pushing it a little with Zaha and Valencia).

But abandoning wingers, with Sir Alex as manager? I don't see it.
 
I think we have to class Welbeck as a winger now. He's played the majority of his football there this season, and for me that makes best use of his ability, taking into account his problems with goalscoring.

Having said that, the four we had this season worked so well because of the versatility of Welbeck and the impact of Hernandez from the bench. All four of them got their fair share of games with squad rotation but that was mainly due to the fact Welbeck hardly ever played up top. As good a player as Lewandowski is (and it's looking likely that we'll make an approach), it would really upset the balance of the squad and means Rooney is either forced out or moulded into a midfielder.
 
devilish said:
Rooney and lewandoski are both strikers. Saf may play then as right back if he wants to but they are at their best upfront
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Rooney's played more often as a holding midfielder than he has as a centre forward in the last three seasons. You might disagree with it, and I can certainly see why, but at this point he's only a striker in emergencies.
 
Eyepopper said:
Kagawa is Rooneys biggest competition IMO.

But I don't think we'll have a problem, Fergie seems well able to rotate and keep everyone happy.
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Agree on that, Kagawa should be his competition for playing off a striker but it seems Fergie is happy to push Kagawa wide so it's not a lot of competition.


If we are going to get Lewendowski, I think the break down of our "strikers" would be like this:

Strikers: Robin Van Persie, Lewandowski, Hernandez (Welbeck) (Rooney)
Number 10's: Rooney, Kagawa
Wingers: Welbeck (Kagawa)
Midfielders: (Rooney)

That leaves a lot of options in the front 6, but with that headaches too as its difficult to play them all regularly, especially as we like to play with 2 wingers. A more compact system and you'd have a chance of getting them all involved:



Van Persie - Lewandowski
Kagawa
(Welbeck) ------------- Welbeck
Rooney - Carrick​

With Hernandez super sub it's a way you can involve them all and a fecking strong and well balanced side with Rooney, Carrick, Welbeck, Kagawa and Van Persie all hard workers off the ball. It's not very "United" though.
 
Chabon said:
Rooney's played more often as a holding midfielder than he has as a centre forward in the last three seasons. You might disagree with it, and I can certainly see why, but at this point he's only a striker in emergencies.
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His best position was always as a deep lying striker although he can lead the line magnificently when hes on fire. You dont convert a 40m rated striker as a CM. I hope im wrong on this but i believe that such switch would end up ruining him
 
devilish said:
His best position was always as a deep lying striker although he can lead the line magnificently when hes on fire. You dont convert a 40m rated striker as a CM. I hope im wrong on this but i believe that such switch would end up ruining him
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Rooney's never been a £40m rated striker. He's always been a £40m+ rated footballer.
 
He's a number 10, a slightly unorthodox one (although hell, what's orthodox these days), but a number 10 nonetheless. He can do a job in midfield, but if we're signing Lewandowski (I still can't see it happening) it's either because we're selling Rooney or we're going to start playing him behind two strikers.

Or we're going to play Lewandowski on the wing, and let's face it, would anyone really be surprised?
 
Pexbo said:
Agree on that, Kagawa should be his competition for playing off a striker but it seems Fergie is happy to push Kagawa wide so it's not a lot of competition.


If we are going to get Lewendowski, I think the break down of our "strikers" would be like this:

Strikers: Robin Van Persie, Lewandowski, Hernandez (Welbeck) (Rooney)
Number 10's: Rooney, Kagawa
Wingers: Welbeck (Kagawa)
Midfielders: (Rooney)

That leaves a lot of options in the front 6, but with that headaches too as its difficult to play them all regularly, especially as we like to play with 2 wingers. A more compact system and you'd have a chance of getting them all involved:



Van Persie - Lewandowski
Kagawa
(Welbeck) ------------- Welbeck
Rooney - Carrick​

With Hernandez super sub it's a way you can involve them all and a fecking strong and well balanced side with Rooney, Carrick, Welbeck, Kagawa and Van Persie all hard workers off the ball. It's not very "United" though.
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I wonder how this team with fare against teams who actually have quality cms in their team. I wouldnt like to be in carricks position when he got to face the martinezes and the iniestas while partnering 6 forwards
 
devilish said:
I wonder how this team with fare against teams who actually have quality cms in their team. I wouldnt like to be in carricks position when he got to face the martinezes and the iniestas while partnering 6 forwards
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Yeah they'd all leave him sitting in front of the back four while they bump into each other in the box shouting "Michael, Michael' pass to me!"
 
"Martinezes and Iniestas"

feck me :lol:
 
Pexbo said:
Yeah they'd all leave him sitting in front of the back four while they bump into each other in the box shouting "Michael, Michael' pass to me!"
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Why do you think that such convertions are rare in football? (outside OT)
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
Playing Rooney in midfield all the time would give me aids.

He's not a midfielder.
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He isn't, but it's better than sitting him on the bench and if we sign Lewandowski it seems the only option. Unless we sell him.
 
well it's taken many years but after a huge effort on my part talking up the need for a midfield, i have thrown in the towel. We are not signing that continental midfielder of note, and even if we did he would probably flop like most of the other foreign midfielders we have bought.

So with that in mind i am now an official supporter of the let's just keep buying world class strikers, and feck the midfield brigade!

Would be delighted to get Lewandowski, he looks real class and ideal for RVP to play off. Means curtains for Rooney though i would suspect.
 
BVBs manager said that they agreed that if a good offer comes in until 15 May, they will discuss it with Robert. In case not, he will stay for another season. He also said that so far, no offer has been made
 
devilish said:
Spending some 30-40m on a striker when you already have rooney, rvp, welbeck, hernandez and kagawa is beyond belief expecially when we need some serious investment in cm.

Ah i forgot we still have giggs there + fletcher and ando will be like 2 new signings for us
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what you talking about? We'll play lewandowski in midfield ;)
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
Playing Rooney in midfield all the time would give me aids.

He's not a midfielder.
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Are you seriously implying that we should go out and buy a proper midfielder to play in midfield!! This is absolute fecking madness!

Why should we spend 30 or 40m on someone when we have a perfectly good striker there just waiting to reinvent himself as a central midfielder?

The mind boggles! :)
 
Striker10 said:
what you talking about? We'll play lewandowski in midfield ;)
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apotheosis said:
Are you seriously implying that we should go out and buy a proper midfielder to play in midfield!! This is absolute fecking madness!

Why should we spend 30 or 40m on someone when we have a perfectly good striker there just waiting to reinvent himself as a central midfielder?

The mind boggles! :)
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Yeah, if only we had a good manager. For feck sake Fergie!
 
If we're getting Lewandowski, we're most likely not getting a midfielder and Rooney moves there for most of the time.
I don't see why so many of you are contemplating selling Rooney, he's not unhappy in the least (atleast not that any of us know), and Fergie doesn't seem to have any problem with him and it looks like he's trying him out there to give him a feel of what it's like.

And I'm pretty sure if Rooney actualy moves to midfield he'll improve in the aspects needed to be a top midfielder, he's more than young enough, more than talented enough, and has a more than adequate teacher in Scholes to help him improve his game, I might get slated for saying this but Rooney's as close a player to Scholes as we can ever hope to get, and Rooney actualy still has his legs.

I agree that he overdoes his hollywood balls at times and at times his short range passing isn't the best, but that's always something you can improve and with more game-time in the middle I've no doubt he can do that.
 
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