You've missed my point completely. Which was, Teddy Sheringham was still producing the goods as he was nearing his mid 30's. People are saying £18 million is too much to spend on a 28 year old, yet United paid a fair amount of money for the ex-Spurs player, but it turned out to be money well spent. So how can anyone say that Keane won't be capable of still playing at the top of his game in 5 or 6 years time ?.
Robbie Keane to Liverpool within 24 hours on 6 months loan (7 mill quid fee)
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You've missed my point completely. Which was, Teddy Sheringham was still producing the goods as he was nearing his mid 30's. People are saying £18 million is too much to spend on a 28 year old, yet United paid a fair amount of money for the ex-Spurs player, but it turned out to be money well spent. So how can anyone say that Keane won't be capable of still playing at the top of his game in 5 or 6 years time ?.
He may have the highest goal tally in Irish football but any footie fan with half a brain would know that Keane hasn't performed for Ireland. As an Irishman, i've witnessed this fact all too often. Every Irishman i know can't understand how he doesn't replicate his League form for us. Still, his workrate in recent years has improved dramatically and he's a very talented footballer, not at International level mind you.
This is where the old "He relies on his pace!" argument comes in. Sheringham was all about letting the ball do the moving, Keane is a player who likes to get on the end of things with his runs. He's nowhere near as good a play maker as Sheringham around the edge of the box.
As for the length of time... Yeah, he'll play slightly shorter at the top of his game because he needs his pace. You should probably pick another player though, Sheringham's fitness and ability to play as he got older isnt a common occurance. Take Yorke and Cole instead.
All this talk of Robbie Keane's value is premature. In time we will be able to judge whether it was a good investment or not. If he transfers his Spurs form to Liverpool then in a few years they will have got a good deal. There is also the possibility that he could be an expensive flop as well. Wait and see.
Being too old should not be Liverpool's fans biggest concern about Robbie Keane. He's got two or three good seasons in him yet.
What they should be concerned about, however, is that his equivalent role - for the clubs who will be battling for the league in April - is filled by players who are better at playing football than he is (e.g. Van Persie, Tevez, Anelka)
He's a good wee player, is Robbie but he's a long fecking way short of the new messiah that certain segments of the Liverpool fans seem to think he is. Still, summer wouldn't be summer without scousers getting over-excited (to the point of delusions) about their prospects for next season. Next thing you know, Davo will be coming out of hibernation and giving it charlie big potatoes.
What they should be concerned about, however, is that his equivalent role - for the clubs who will be battling for the league in April - is filled by players who are better at playing football than he is (e.g. Van Persie, Tevez, Anelka)
He's a good wee player, is Robbie but he's a long fecking way short of the new messiah that certain segments of the Liverpool fans seem to think he is. Still, summer wouldn't be summer without scousers getting over-excited (to the point of delusions) about their prospects for next season. Next thing you know, Davo will be coming out of hibernation and giving it charlie big potatoes.
Must admit, I wasn't chuffed with the signing of Sheringham. But he proved me wrong.
This has got me thinking about comments made prior about Tottenham not selling to help improve their rivals (ie Berbatov to us). Yet they are willing to sell their captain to the team that finished in the position that they are yearning to get!
I know I'm bad and prompted them but on RAWK they feel he is better than Rooney, Tevez, Joe Cole, Anelka and Van Persie.
I bet he was their dream signing prior to the summer break.
I know that place is full of nut-jobs but are those suggestions being taken seriously?
Well apparently they now have the best strike pair in the world, to go with the best midfield, defence and keeper.
sorry, best "spine" of any side.
I know that place is full of nut-jobs but are those suggestions being taken seriously?
yes.
if they sign Barry and one other they will have the best team in the world.
Bless.
I wouldn't be too excited had we bought Keane. I'd probably saying something along the lines of 'Well, I think he could do a good job for us, and Fergie knows what he's doing, so you agve to back his judgement'. That said, Benitez is hardly Fergie.
I read they're using the money to purchase Arshavin or at least give it a go at signing him...
Strange them losing their captain and most consistant player but the transfers they've had so far have been very interesting and in some cases gutsy. I wouldn't mind them improving so long as it's at 'Pool's expense.
Strange them losing their captain and most consistant player but the transfers they've had so far have been very interesting and in some cases gutsy. I wouldn't mind them improving so long as it's at 'Pool's expense.
Malta x2
Yugoslavia
Malta
Turkey
Czech
Holland
Iran
Russia
Denmark
Germany
Saudi
Spain
Switzerland
Albania
Georgia
Canada x2
Czech
Holland
Cyprus
Faroe Islands x2
Croatia
Israel
Sweden
San Marino x3
Denmark x2
Wales
Colombia.
Those are the countries he's scored against. They look okay like this, but when you look at them in context http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/robkeane-intlg.html, it makes rather more stark reading. Since 2005 he has played 20 times, and scored 9 times. But four of those were in the Sweden, Denmark, and Colombia friendlies respectively. Of the other 5, he has gotten 1 against Israel, 3 against San Marino, and 1 against Colombia. Sometime stats can be a little misleading.
And this is just his goalscoring performances, his overall performances have been nothing short of abysmal IMHO.
A change in strategy? Looks as if he's more interested in Irish/English players.
I know that place is full of nut-jobs but are those suggestions being taken seriously?
Tbf Rooney = Kuyt.
I don't understand why you are using Sherringham as an example. The only similarity he has with Keane is that they both played for spurs. Completely different players, and as was mentioned, Sherringham was joining an existing 3 man attack with one of the best midfield quartets in the the world behind them.
Didn't we sign Sherringham the year after Shearer signed for Newcastle for £15M?
So £3.5 wasn't exactly extortionate at that time, especially with clubs like Chelsea and Boro shelling out cash around that time.
He's got to try something different cos plan A is hardly working is it.
Why do you bother posting on that place? It'd just drive you insane if you tried to "discuss" football with 95% percent of them. There's some right nutters on there like that Andy@Allerton weirdo.
I'd say RedCafe is no MENSA meeting either, but at least you're allowed to criticise United here. On RAWK you either tow the party-line that Liverpool and Benitez are perfect in every way or you're out.
I've found myself reading it for comedy value, but it's just not worth the low opinion of the human race that you start to develop.
I think he's after players more geared to do better in the Prem. Although I'm not sure the likes of Keane and Barry will give them a better chance.
dunno. Just do it on slow days on here. I like giving them a tickle. To be honest that site is fantastic entertainment. I'm not going to cry if I get banned am I but I've managed to avoid it so far.
What has life come to if you can't rib a few rat eaters once in a while.
Decent player. They could've done better.
But 20M
But 20M
How could you possibly say that? Rooney is even more of a hardworking, creative force, a better goalscorer and overall more talented player.
He'll be a good signing. the price seems pretty inflated but when you see Johnson for £12 million...it's not so bad. At the end of the day he's a proven Premiership player, has a decent strike rate, fairly creative, a hard worker and could form a formidable partnership with Torres.
As a long term spurs season ticket holder said to me, if keane is that good? how comes no other club is in for him??
They will play him right wing though.
How come no other club is in for Berbatov either? Maybe because the prices are ridiculous?
Keane is a good player & will improve Liverpool
but hes not half the player Sheringham was
Keane is an excellent player, him and Torres is possibly an even better partnership than him and Berbatov, because Torres is better than Berbatov.
Keane has been underrated for the past few seasons in my opinion.
Keane has been underrated for the past few seasons in my opinion.
Keane is a proven PL goalscorer. He'll get at least 15 PL goals for Liverpool and take them closer to actually challenging for the title.
They're all in a different class to Robbie bleedin' Keane that's why
Ive always liked Robbie Keane Hope he doesnt turn into a twat when he signs for pool
Personally, he never even entered the radar and I allowed myself a little pipedream we could afford Villa but in all honesty when his name appeared I thought 'what a good consolation prize he would be'. He's honest and a team player, very good player as well, I'm hoping he could become another Gary Mac for us.
Ireland is hardly overflowing with footballing heroes right now so the fact that none of us Irish rate Keane as being truly top class probably shows that while he'll strengthen them he's not likely to transform their fortunes like a Villa or an Arshavin potentially could.
Although it did just strike me that the Scousers could reasonably strike parallels with us signing Carrick as our only signing of the summer right before we won the league again. Both came from Spurs, both were seen as being overpriced and slightly below top tier, but both seem to have a knack of allowing their more overtly talented partners to perform well. Carrick has helped spark a renaissance in Scholes, while Keane has heped Berbatov establish himself as one of the best players in the league and could be a good partner for Torres.
Shitty comparisons aside, the only one that probably really matters is the one that Pogue pointed out - if Liverpool are going to overtake their rivals, they need better players than them, and Keane isn't better than Van Persie, Tevez or Rooney.
Although it did just strike me that the Scousers could reasonably strike parallels with us signing Carrick as our only signing of the summer right before we won the league again. Both came from Spurs, both were seen as being overpriced and slightly below top tier, but both seem to have a knack of allowing their more overtly talented partners to perform well. Carrick has helped spark a renaissance in Scholes, while Keane has heped Berbatov establish himself as one of the best players in the league and could be a good partner for Torres.
Shitty comparisons aside, the only one that probably really matters is the one that Pogue pointed out - if Liverpool are going to overtake their rivals, they need better players than them, and Keane isn't better than Van Persie, Tevez or Rooney.
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