Rivaldo's on a free

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I bet he dont make it
 
I don't care what any of you say. But form Rivaldo is the best there is on earth and the best in his position as a support striker ala Cantona. If we signed him I would be over the moon imo cause he would makes us Treble Treble winners in Sir Alex's last years :p
 
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there's no reason Trendy shouldn't be competing with kemo soon for self-satisfied, inane, gibberesh (with laughing smileys optional).
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Speak of the devil.
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been a bit late on this thread - but i did post the first link to the story on the crespo no.9 thread (btw, Antohan, I'm AMAZED ya even bother discussing this story now, ya thought it was too ridiculous to do so, a few days ago, maybe simply because of the source - ah, messengers - well, maybe not so amazed) :rolleyes:

first of all, i'm outraged, absolutely outraged that any of you'd even suggest that Rivaldo would win Oscars by the dozen, or whatever - there's simply no way, cuz Miramax doesn't promote him. what he would win (first, by sweeping the nominations) are Razzies by the truckload - he'd compete with Dario Silva and Sly Stallone (Oscars go to the best actor in a year .... or Tom Hanks) <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

Raoul:
He's one of the top 5 footballers in the world. Signing him on a free would be a no brainer.
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Try top two.

The guy's a cheat, but not a nasty cheat.
btw, didn't He-Whose-Name-Must-Never-Be-Mentioned-In-Fergie's-Presence once reveal in a book, that Fergie had intructed the fellas to dive in the box to win penalties, esp. in Europe?

as far as character goes, he spent the last season playing on painkillers, when most players would have taken off and gone to watch the Rio carnival (well, some players i can think of)
the four seasons at Barca before that, he averaged something like 30 goals a season.
if that's inconsistency for you, i wouldn't mind Ruud n Ole being inconsistent! (someone with access to the exact stats - come in here)

work ethic - he's a forward and they like to be selfish and score goals by nature - imagine checking out Ronaldo's work out and threatening to bench him for not defending - you'd have to be insane - or Felipao - to do that
anyone ever see him defend off corners - few CBs in the world are as good...

when he's on, he's all over the area - not quite as selfish as some of you suggest (we must be watching a different player) - he creates space (perfect for Ruud or Ole) sets ups goal with THE passes, and does help out trying to win the ball back
if most of you have only seen him play in the WC, where he wan't anywhere close to his best - but painkillers and recovering from injuries will do that to you (just ask Becks),
there's tremendous pressure on him to not just play well, but have the stats to refer to later, the way he's slagged off in Brazil - they believe he does his best in club shirts - quite unlike Seba...

he's the only visitor in Milan's European history to get a hat-trick at the San Siro (Milan 3-3 Barca) and of course the Valencia game - chk out his defensive work in that game, if you wanna know
as for his abilities and versatility - well, it's all been said before and right here today as well...
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Originally posted by radd:
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as far as character goes, he spent the last season playing on painkillers, when most players would have taken off and gone to watch the Rio carnival (well, some players i can think of)
the four seasons at Barca before that, he averaged something like 30 goals a season.
if that's inconsistency for you, i wouldn't mind Ruud n Ole being inconsistent! (someone with access to the exact stats - come in here)

work ethic - he's a forward and they like to be selfish and score goals by nature - imagine checking out Ronaldo's work out and threatening to bench him for not defending - you'd have to be insane - or Felipao - to do that
anyone ever see him defend off corners - few CBs in the world are as good...

when he's on, he's all over the area - not quite as selfish as some of you suggest (we must be watching a different player) - he creates space (perfect for Ruud or Ole) sets ups goal with THE passes, and does help out trying to win the ball back
if most of you have only seen him play in the WC, where he wan't anywhere close to his best - but painkillers and recovering from injuries will do that to you (just ask Becks),
there's tremendous pressure on him to not just play well, but have the stats to refer to later, the way he's slagged off in Brazil - they believe he does his best in club shirts - quite unlike Seba...
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Good post.

Get him just to piss off Jens.
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If we could pull the deal off there would still be money, hopefully to bring in another player, possibly as cover for Becks maybe a full back, but just imagine this, Barthez, Ferdinand, Beckham, Giggs, Keane, Veron, Van Nistlerooy and Rivaldo all in the same team, I agree the trible would most certainly be on! :)
 
So with Rivaldo in the team what would the line up be? Who would he replace? Does Ole have to drop down to sub again? Are we entering 2 teams now in the premiership?

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Originally posted by thumper:
<strong>So with Rivaldo in the team what would the line up be? Who would he replace? Does Ole have to drop down to sub again? Are we entering 2 teams now in the premiership?

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I guess Rivaldo will take Ole's place in the first choice XI, but with the number of games United play AND the number of games Rivaldo misses, I'm sure Ole will get enough games in the team.
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<a href="http://www.planetfootball.com" target="_blank">www.planetfootball.com</a>

Apparently Manchester United 'lead the way' in race to sign Rivaldo... or so they say...
 
Originally posted by the reporter:
<strong><a href="http://www.planetfootball.com" target="_blank">www.planetfootball.com</a>

Apparently Manchester United 'lead the way' in race to sign Rivaldo... or so they say...</strong><hr></blockquote>

yea alot of papers in spain are saying that aswell
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i thought Fergie once thought highly of him, isnt it? He's a big risk IMO although a gem if it works out.
He's onto his 30s now and it's obviously difficult to get rid of him if things don't work out the way we wanna.
 
hes 30, he would want huge wages and a large signing on fee, but it would be worth it, we would have some team then
 
Originally posted by bananaman:
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I have done previously in the thread.

Put it this way, if he comes I won't be going down the pub to watch United - I couldn't stand the embarassment everytime he goes down clutching his face when an opponents pass goes astray and finds him instead.
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I feel the same way, especially after watching Becks kick opponents in frustration every week, after they foul him, only to get uncermoniously red carded a few moments later....
 
I don't like watching Beckham do what he does either. I'd far rather he didn't do it. Saying it's part of the game is a cop out and an indication that cheating to win is accepted because we must win at all cost. Naively perhaps I believe that a football game should be won by talent or luck not cheating.

Football is going down a bad road - it's already a joke, especially so outside UK, but we're fast approaching the others. We don't need players like Rivaldo doing what he did and then justifying it to the world. What sort of an example does this set to the kids? Before long a match will be won on the number of dives a team can execute - literally - the dives lead to free kicks and penalties. It won't be football anymore, it will be theatre and people will lose interest in what was once the beautiful game.

Anyway long rant I know, but in short feck Rivaldo. If he comes I'll have to grin and bear it I guess, but like certain Liverpool fans who stuck to their guns and didn't suddenly start defending Bowyer I won't do an about turn on this one (not that anyone cares I know).
 
I wouldn't want him. He'd be a great player, if he wasn't a dirty-cheat. He's pathetic. I can't stand the guy.
 
Before long? :(

I agree about the cheating. but why single Rivaldo out?
what about Fergie's instructions?
 
Originally posted by radd:
<strong>Before long? :(

I agree about the cheating. but why single Rivaldo out?
what about Fergie's instructions?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I wouldn't agree with that either if it was true.

Rivaldo's play acting really was too much though. He excused himself in front of the world when it was so abundantly clear to the world that he had taken cheating to a new level. He had no shame whatsoever.

Football authorities seem not to really care though and that's saddest of all. Boston for example, should have been sent straight back to the GM conference for what they did. The guy charged with investigating that case (and any others that may arise in an effort to stamp out fiscal irregularities - another form of cheating) and making the subsequent recommendations is on the verge of resigning because the Football League almost completely overruled him for god knows what reason. Perhaps they would have been overly administratively challenged in having to eject Boston at this late stage. Who knows. It all stinks though. Unfortunately it all starts with that cnut Blatter and FIFA.
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I've never liked the guy, he's a dirty cheating bastard, but he is one fantastic player, and on a free would be a brilliant footballing asset. Sign him up I say. :)
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>Fergie: Don't Cheat
Rivaldo: Ok

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Fergie: Don't cheat.

Rivaldo : Que? No comprendo.

;)
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Would those who don't want him..also reject the likes of Kluivert, Anelka, on free transfers ?
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
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As for Rivaldo....he's not a Fergie type player and the prima dona thing would probably get him in the dog house, irrespective of how little he cost us.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well for someone who isn't a Fergie type player, AF has shown a lot of interest, for a long time!
Having said that, the wages are going to be too much and too disruptive to the salery structure.
I just hope he doesn't go to the Arse, or the scousers
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i think this topic has sentiments of th england defeat when he scored against us!!!!!!

just let it be, brasil are better than us at present, so argentina even though lost to us, so are italy for that matter.

are we gonna highlight every players that scores against england???????? :mad:

we should but him just to sytop Real getting stronger or any other premier side, this reason amongst others (world class player). should be enough, if ergie can handle cantona and barthez, then he can handle rivaldo!!!!!!!!!

take into account fergie said on numerous occasions that he is the best player in the world, even though ronaldo was scoring shitloads, before WC98.

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE U SEEN HIM WIN MATCHES FOR BARCELONA IN THE LAST MINUTES OF A GAME WITH A FREEKICK??????

He is even better than beckham ta freekicks, and his range of freekicks are also more diverse.

This man is lethal in one on one situations, bit like Raul.

what he done wc 2002 was wrong but he said what he said to escape punishment, if he admitted it he would have got banned for a few matches.

so far that the first time i have ever seen him do sommat like that. The one with sol campbell was geniune, did get smacked on the face.
 
Lets face it, if Rivaldo was to turn out in a United shirt next season he'd have as big an impact on the field as Eric Cantona and you'd all be creaming yourselves. Forget cheating or not, once that red top goes on, he's one of ours.
cant see him coming to us though, Lazio bound if you ask me.
 
Originally posted by gulli_G:
<strong>i think this topic has sentiments of th england defeat when he scored against us!!!!!!

just let it be, brasil are better than us at present, so argentina even though lost to us, so are italy for that matter.

are we gonna highlight every players that scores against england???????? :mad:

we should but him just to sytop Real getting stronger or any other premier side, this reason amongst others (world class player). should be enough, if ergie can handle cantona and barthez, then he can handle rivaldo!!!!!!!!!

take into account fergie said on numerous occasions that he is the best player in the world, even though ronaldo was scoring shitloads, before WC98.

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE U SEEN HIM WIN MATCHES FOR BARCELONA IN THE LAST MINUTES OF A GAME WITH A FREEKICK??????

He is even better than beckham ta freekicks, and his range of freekicks are also more diverse.

This man is lethal in one on one situations, bit like Raul.

what he done wc 2002 was wrong but he said what he said to escape punishment, if he admitted it he would have got banned for a few matches.

so far that the first time i have ever seen him do sommat like that. The one with sol campbell was geniune, did get smacked on the face.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Imagine Becks and Rivaldo: In my book the two best FK takers in the world, both lining up to take the shot. The keeper would craps his pants.
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Fergie: Don't cheat.

Rivaldo : Que? No comprendo.

Fergie: Carlos, get in here.

Carlos: Rivaldo, por favor não faz batota hoje.

Rivaldo: Eu posso somente ser eu mesmo. Eu sou Charles pesaroso.

;)
 
Originally posted by golden_blunder:
<strong>Lazio bound if you ask me.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Can they afford to pay him 4.5m quid a year though? Hmmmm! ;)
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Fergie: Don't cheat.

Rivaldo : Que? No comprendo.

Fergie: Carlos, get in here.

Carlos: Rivaldo, por favor não faz batota hoje.

Rivaldo: Eu posso somente ser eu mesmo. Eu sou Charles pesaroso.

Carlos: Nesse caso, certifique-se apenas de que não é demasiado noticable.

Fergie: Why the long discussion ?

Carlos: He says he is very honoured to be here.

;)
 
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Originally posted by Raoul:
Fergie: Don't Cheat
Rivaldo: Ok

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Fergie - make the difference, win us the match.
Rivaldo - OK.

So what if he feined injury, yes it was pathetic but look who walked away with the world cup. Players squirm on the pitch after a "bad"tackle and lo and behold within a minute they are ok again. If Rivaldo can improve our team then buy him, if SAF cant see him improving our team then he wont. Its simple and anyway even with his wages we'll make that back in shirts/posters etc.
 
You make a good point Thumper. I've posted threads that we should sign him over the past few summers on here. It's really a question of whether his attitude and work ethic would be compatible with the rest of the squad. If he's flexible about that, then he could be a tremendous weapon and we would stand a legitimate chance of winning the treble again, especially with Rio and Larry at the back.
 
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