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Right Winger... Who do we go for?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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Don't get your hopes up.
Aye I've just seen he's starting left.
Again can't say i agree mate but i can see where you're coming from. I personally am not a fan of 3 at the back formations, they come back into fashion every 10 years or so and then fall out of use again.
All this 352 talk is moot as most likely Mourinho probably won't be using the formation outside of a few games in the coming season. As i said i don't think he's a fan of the formations at all.
I don't know at this point what Mourinho's formation even is, he seems to favour 4-2-3-1 but he surely knows by now that wont work with Pogba, and we switched about so much last season that I really wouldn't like to stake a claim on what he wants to use regularly.
I'm not a huge fan of 3 at the back myself, although I disagree with the notion many have that it's a defensive system, I think it's been proven over time that any system can be defensive or offensive depending on personnel and tactics, however it all just comes back to what we can actually get for the Right Wing, I mean do you really want to see Willian or Rebic in our attack? I know I don't.
Pulisic
Yeah, agree. Also I think kind of easy to get as Dortmund are a "selling" club.
Rebic i haven't seen enough of to make a judgement, Willian is a solid if not spectacular player. He's not a superstar but he is a good right winger and thats what we need at the very least. He's better there than Lingard and way better than Mata who will rotate on the RW if we don't sign someone. So from that point of view i would be satisfied with Willian coming in as i think we will be using 433.
And yes 352 isn't inherently a defensive formation if you have the right players and manager. But with Mourinho whatever formation we use it's always going to lean towards the defensive. In which case i would rather we didn't employ a formation that has 5 defenders and 2 defensive midfielders on the pitch because it'll end up a very defensive formation. For me we've never looked convincing using it under Mourinho, i don't think he knows how to set it up correctly and/or we didn't have the right personnel.
We should be making moves/a bid for bale.
If not, Willian or Douglas Costa would do.
If not, Willian or Douglas Costa would do.
Bale probably isn't leaving Madrid with Ronaldo gone, Chelsea apparently want 80m for Willian, Douglas Costa just signed for Juventus (was a year long loan then the signing). So doubt they'd sell him, especially as he's part of the starting 11 alongside Dybala and Ronaldo.
But we do need somebody. Going into the season without fixing our right wing is going to lead to a really bad season IMO.
Oh yeah, I heard something about Costa signing alright. But yeah, I agree, we'll go backwards if we don't don't sign at least one of the above.
Bale for me, looks the best bet. Offer 100m and tell him he's a guaranteed starter when fit. At least make him choose outright.
I think bale would be stupid to turn that down, he'd be the main man here etc.
Pulisic seems bang on form this preseason so far. Maybe he has found a way to up his level of play. Would be a great buy since he is young, exciting and a marketing dream for Ed for the US market, so I hope that Jose is at least paying some attention to him.
Doubts over Dortmund players though - so far our buys from them have not worked out well. Third time lucky maybe?
Doubts over Dortmund players though - so far our buys from them have not worked out well. Third time lucky maybe?
How’s his mental fortitude? Is he a Zlatan or more a Mky? What worries me is that he has been inconsistent, and if he is weak minded, then he won’t make the cut.
@gr3yham3 I’m answering you here because I have no more available posts today.
If he is a United fan it will be a great motivation for him to succeed. And from the business angle it makes much sense: He is the USA born player with greater projection, and that market is a gold mine.
I hope he has the mental strength of a Ibrahimovic, so he will thrive under pressure... Because if he is a Mky/Mahrez, he will break under Mourinho.
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I guess that being 19 will mean he will be cut some slack for inconsistency. Liking what I have seen so far during this preseason though. He seems fitter and faster than before, at least during the limited times I have seen him play. Did not have the best of times during last season, but at least it has not caused him to let his head drop. Oh, I think he is a United fan as well?
No one that’s world class is available to be honest. It’s hard to say someone could even suit United...
Maybe we could sign a winger with potential like Pulisic, Bailey, Malcom, Chiesa, Coman, etc. They are not world class but they would improve our RW.
I don't think they would impress under Mourinho. All of our attackers look dull, maybe except for Lukaku, who was the only one to come out with some credit from last season, but even he struggled at times.
What about Nabil Fekir? He is an AM/RW who could be easy to get.
I wasn’t that impressed at what I saw of him at the World Cup
I wasn't impressed by lot of good players at world cup, so I think we should look at the bigger view and check his whole last season when he was very good.
The right wing has been in need of fixing for a long time but we haven't addressed it. I doubt we will. Incompetent stuff. Happy to be proven wrong though.
Don't think he'd move this summer, but FWIW I think United should be all over Pulisic in 2019.
I’d take William.
I’d also take Pulisic as a long term project.
I’d also take Pulisic as a long term project.
Bertrand Traore might be the best option left for us.
United are capable of pulling off a transfer scoop before the season starts and I wonder if there's a possibility we could snaffle Hazard from Chelsea. If he says he wants to leave Sarri may be inclined to let him go as he wouldn't want an unhappy player spoiling things as he seeks to lay down a foundation. Mourinho and Hazard get on too. If Martial went to Chelsea and we got Hazard in return I imagine most fans would be happy with that. I think Hazard can play on the right too. Fantasy or is there a probability that something like this could come off?
Emil Forsberg is a LW but he is right footed, has he played much on the right? Was impressed with him at the World Cup.
I wouldn't have sold Zaha.
Most of the top teams have quality right wingers:
Madrid: Bale
Barca: Messi
Juve: Dybala
PSG: Mbappe
City: Mahrez
Liverpool: Salah
It's important for us to improve that position if we want to compete with the best. Mata and Lingard are decent, but we need someone better to start every game. Also, the top teams have other wingers able to make difference in their attack such as Sterling/Sane, Mane/Shaqiri, Costa/Ronaldo, Neymar/Draxler, Dembele/Malcom, etc.
I would be satisfied with someone like Pulisic or Bailey.
Madrid: Bale
Barca: Messi
Juve: Dybala
PSG: Mbappe
City: Mahrez
Liverpool: Salah
It's important for us to improve that position if we want to compete with the best. Mata and Lingard are decent, but we need someone better to start every game. Also, the top teams have other wingers able to make difference in their attack such as Sterling/Sane, Mane/Shaqiri, Costa/Ronaldo, Neymar/Draxler, Dembele/Malcom, etc.
I would be satisfied with someone like Pulisic or Bailey.
Hopefully the board and manager should just accept that signing bale, Perisic or Willian doesn’t make sense and move on to other targets, basically what Barcelona did with Willian.
Still have a feeling we could see Willian arrive and Martial go to Chelsea.
Still have a feeling we could see Willian arrive and Martial go to Chelsea.
Mourinho's comments during the World Cup indicate he rates a formation that has a back three. He's also tried it with United on occasion and certainly seemed to want to start with it in the 2017-2018 season. My guess is he expected more from Lindelof at the time.
With Malcom now at Barca why not take a crack at Ousmane Dembele. I doubt he is Jose’s cup of tea but at this point I don’t really care what Jose wants and hope Woody makes this a vanity signing. Feck the idea of valuing a workhorse winger over someone who could be incredible. He’s already got Sanchez who puts a shift in and Dembele can be absolutely lethal at opening up defences, pace, ability to beat a man and best of all the killer pass in his locker.
It can be Woodys gift to the next manager
It can be Woodys gift to the next manager
Personally I would love to see Leon Bailey join us. Thinking about the post-Mourinho era* he and Martial (if he stays) could be lethal either side of Lukaku.
*This isn't a Mourinho bashing post. But we know Mourinho sells himself on winning above all things and Man United are about winning preferably with style. If Mourinho doesn't bring success or show signs of bringing the style back, I think he will be gone.
*This isn't a Mourinho bashing post. But we know Mourinho sells himself on winning above all things and Man United are about winning preferably with style. If Mourinho doesn't bring success or show signs of bringing the style back, I think he will be gone.
With Malcom now at Barca why not take a crack at Ousmane Dembele. I doubt he is Jose’s cup of tea but at this point I don’t really care what Jose wants and hope Woody makes this a vanity signing. Feck the idea of valuing a workhorse winger over someone who could be incredible. He’s already got Sanchez who puts a shift in and Dembele can be absolutely lethal at opening up defences, pace, ability to beat a man and best of all the killer pass in his locker.
It can be Woodys gift to the next manager
I would love this but I think the idea is for Malcom to be Dembele's backup?
Besides it would be odd for Barca to spend 100M on a player and sell him in 1 season
Spoke to an Italian Chievo fan in a pub in Bergen today, and he asked if we have a scouting dept. at all. How a club desperate for RW talent can overlook Chiesa was baffling to him, especially since we love hardworking and aggressive players.
Yeah it’s wishful thinking on my part. Personally I think they have designs on moulding Dembele into a CAM but I think for a large part we’re Barca not playing some sort of 442 last year. I didn’t really see that many of their games if any, just bits and bobs.
Think we should try a swap deal with Martial.
We need a RW, they need a LW to be rotation with Coutinho/Suarez
He clearly wants out, so it'll please everybody.
Except Barcelona.
Well they've shown an interest in Martial apparently, and Dembele isn't happy there either.
Yes they'll take a loss but so what?
When you look at that list it's amazing how some people are happy with Lingard being first choice here. Even Spurs have much better in Eriksen.
It's like we're trying to win the tour de France on foot.
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