Right Winger... Who do we go for?

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We dont need a RW. We are well stocked on attackers, unless we get rid of Mata.

What we need is MFs and a FB.
 
Hugh Jass said:
We dont need a RW. We are well stocked on attackers, unless we get rid of Mata.

What we need is MFs and a FB.
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We need those too. And a commanding ball-playing centreback to partner Bailly. Not sure what the priorities will be, as that is obviously too much work for a single window.
 
Rid of Mata, I love Him, but we could sell him and make a profit, then Buy Willian, a consistent premier league player, with bagz of experience. Really, it's a no brainer.
 
Mozza said:
We have endless players who cut inside and score goals. We need a creator
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He isn't the typical winger we have. He is very fast, he takes players on and he always seems to be a threat
 
Ravelation said:
Rid of Mata, I love Him, but we could sell him and make a profit, then Buy Willian, a consistent premier league player, with bagz of experience. Really, it's a no brainer.
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Is there a coded message in there somewhere?

I'm struggling to find the cipher
 
Reckon some of the suggestions are qualitatively good, but of the wrong profile. The qualities this United attacks lacks above all else in attack are composure - on and off the ball, technical flair, and movement/organisation when spaces are condensed. Traditional width is an issue, yes, but it can be provided by the fullbacks as well - in contrast with that, there's no quick-fix solution for lack of composure or technical capability when you're pressed - or the ability to think 2 steps ahead of the opposition before they reorganize. And that parlays into several aspects of our offensive play - as we become too direct and predicated on simplistic counter-attacks as our Plan A - which isn't always a good thing once teams decide to sit in deep blocks (which is exactly what La Liga clubs started to do against Madrid in José's third season as well), especially when your Plan B is also to ping it long in a progressively direct fashion. Part of it is down to Mourinho's relatively hands-free and rudimentary approach in terms of the offensive instructions - he's never been the most renowned offensive guru in terms of mechanics or elaborate schemes, but we do need more players who're composed on the ball, make 9 good decisions out 10, can intuitively sense passing opportunities against a packed opposition defense - and stereotypical wingers aren't generally renowned for that - especially when the system itself doesn't engender a multi-faceted attacking ethos or a great deal of well-orchestrated movement. If our issues with composure aren't solved in the central or attacking midfield department (which are also areas of concern), we must sign a wide attacker who has those qualities and is a genuine threat in possession in terms of passing nous - think Ribéry for Bayern, Reus for Dortmund, or even Bernardo Silva at Monaco - and the effect they had on those teams in terms of facilitating calculated transitions from midfield to attack. We need to be very careful and methodical with the way we approach the overhaul of the wider areas because if you sign the wrong profile of player, irregardless of how well he'd done in a different team with a different setup, you'll get a diminished version in effect, or worst case scenario - be stuck with him for a couple of seasons while making an abnormal amount of adjustments to calibrate things instead of developing set structure and automatisms - and that last part is why the team is in a perpetual state of rebuild even after spending tonnes of money.
 
Willian. Whether it will happen or indeed if there is any point in signing him to play in the current malaise surrounding United is another story.
 
I think we should raid Sociedad for Odriozola and Oyarzabal for the right side (although Oyarzabal could play either side). I happen to think the team obviously needs a LB, CB and CM still, but to try and sucession plan for Valencia and have a bit more playmaking on the wings, that would be a good shout.
 
Mahrez would be a quality addition to our squad.
 
Mahrez would have been a better signing than Sanchez (and that is even with the belief that he will eventually come good)
 
Invictus said:
Reckon some of the suggestions are qualitatively good, but of the wrong profile. The qualities this United attacks lacks above all else in attack are composure - on and off the ball, technical flair, and movement/organisation when spaces are condensed. Traditional width is an issue, yes, but it can be provided by the fullbacks as well - in contrast with that, there's no quick-fix solution for lack of composure or technical capability when you're pressed - or the ability to think 2 steps ahead of the opposition before they reorganize. And that parlays into several aspects of our offensive play - as we become too direct and predicated on simplistic counter-attacks as our Plan A - which isn't always a good thing once teams decide to sit in deep blocks (which is exactly what La Liga clubs started to do against Madrid in José's third season as well), especially when your Plan B is also to ping it long in a progressively direct fashion. Part of it is down to Mourinho's relatively hands-free and rudimentary approach in terms of the offensive instructions - he's never been the most renowned offensive guru in terms of mechanics or elaborate schemes, but we do need more players who're composed on the ball, make 9 good decisions out 10, can intuitively sense passing opportunities against a packed opposition defense - and stereotypical wingers aren't generally renowned for that - especially when the system itself doesn't engender a multi-faceted attacking ethos or a great deal of well-orchestrated movement. If our issues with composure aren't solved in the central or attacking midfield department (which are also areas of concern), we must sign a wide attacker who has those qualities and is a genuine threat in possession in terms of passing nous - think Ribéry for Bayern, Reus for Dortmund, or even Bernardo Silva at Monaco - and the effect they had on those teams in terms of facilitating calculated transitions from midfield to attack. We need to be very careful and methodical with the way we approach the overhaul of the wider areas because if you sign the wrong profile of player, irregardless of how well he'd done in a different team with a different setup, you'll get a diminished version in effect, or worst case scenario - be stuck with him for a couple of seasons while making an abnormal amount of adjustments to calibrate things instead of developing set structure and automatisms - and that last part is why the team is in a perpetual state of rebuild even after spending tonnes of money.
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Good post.

Personally I think Mahrez, Semedo double combo this summer would have revitalised that right side of the pitch. It would have been a very Fergie-esque EPL suited wing combo.

On the left, we desperately needed a left back investment.. Sandro/Mendy etc and play them with Martial down the other flank. Didn't understand the preoccupation with Perisic, or Sanchez for the left when that is a productive flank for us.
 
MrMourinho#7 said:
Lucas Moura is a similar player imo(tracks back, works well defensively, hugs the touchline instead of cutting inside everytime, has pace with trickery, Brazillian etc.) and was available on the cheap but we missed that chance in January.
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Someone I mentioned in this thread when he was available, but as you said, we missed the chance in Jan.

Saying that, we did get Sanchez, who has the ability to play, both inside and outside, but unfortunately, Mourinho doesnt want to play him there.
 
I don't get the Willain comparisons made in here, I'm not a big fan but the difference between him and the others mentioned is he's a brainy player, he makes smart passses and choices in the final 3rd, the others are way too erratic and reliant on their pace. Of the younger optrions mentioned Pulisic is the most similar, he has good decision making for a young player, but at this juncture he's probably better off at Dortmund, especially as we are likely stuck with the same tumescent manager for another year.

If Mourinho wants a left footer to operate similar to Mata I'd say Dybala or Fekir, but I'd rather have Eriksen than either. Mahrez is too much of a fanny for Mourinho.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
Someone I mentioned in this thread when he was available, but as you said, we missed the chance in Jan.

Saying that, we did get Sanchez, who has the ability to play, both inside and outside, but unfortunately, Mourinho doesnt want to play him there.
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Wanted us to sign both him and Sanchez in January but looks like Jose wasn't that bothered about our RW (he doesn't play Sanchez on RW as you said) which is absurd because we definitely need one.
 
Stick Sanchez on the right. We don't need a buy a right winger, can't have Sanchez stopping both Martial and Rashford from developing as players. Sanchez is a very good right sided attacker, I've no idea why Jose has decided to play him on the left?
 
Red_toad said:
Stick Sanchez on the right. We don't need a buy a right winger, can't have Sanchez stopping both Martial and Rashford from developing as players. Sanchez is a very good right sided attacker, I've no idea why Jose has decided to play him on the left?
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Agreed. Clearly Sanchez is going to play, he may as well get used to RW.

Can’t see 5 or 6 signings this summer so for some positions Mourinho will have to use what we have.

I think LB is our worst stocked position at the moment. Would love to see a massive signing there (Sandro, Alaba, Alonso etc) to kick off the summer.
 
I'd take Douglas Costa if he's available. He's stood out more than the likes of Dybala for Juve recently imo. Looks a constant threat even against really good opposition in the games I've seen.

Plus he's the right age to see the likes of Chong enter the first team picture eventually.
 
Willian would be ideal.

He would fit well in Mourinho's 4-2-2-2 as a RAM with Pogba as a LAM, Sanchez and Lukaku as forwards with 2 sitting midifielders and LB and RB providing the width.

If Martial leaves we should definitely go for Douglas Costa as a replacement.
 
I can see us breaking the chequebook out and paying over the odds for Willian in the summer. Willian in, Martial out. Not sure how I'd feel about that in the long-term, honestly.
 
I honestly think that Mourinho wasn't lying when he said he wasn't going to buy an attacker this summer. I could, however, see him going for Robben on a free if he'd be interested. A totally different player to what we have, who would teach our young players everything there is to know about playing wide for a big team.

I think Sanchez had to hit the ground running, and Mourinho tried to facilitate that by playing him in his most comfortable position.

However, I simply can't believe that with a good pre-season, that none of Rashford, Martial, Sanchez or Lingard will take their approach on that side to the next level.

Sanchez helped create the opening goal against City by crossing from the right. Martial has the pace to go on the outside, and would be a diagonal run away from overloading the left-hand side. For that to work though, we probably need to have 3 fit, quality players in midfield, and a fullback with good pace, stamina, and good crossing ability.

I think we'll sign 2 fullbacks and 1 midfielder, or 2 midfielders and 1 fullback.

If I had to guess:
Fabinho of Monaco
Sandro of Juventus
Vidal of Bayern Munich
Robben (Free Agent)
 
If Martial leaves, Utd will review their plans of not buying attackers this summer (I Hope).
We should go all out for a proper right winger.
 
Robben on one year contract and during that period, learn rashford for that position.
 
No idea who would be suited for this right now. Which is why I'm not convinced it's a problem area that can't be addressed by coaching and a change of tactics.

Mata and Sanchez can do a job there - probably same with Rashford. Higher priorities for the summer transfers.
 
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