I like this, if we’re lucky we can also get a young-ish prospect to phase/replace Valencia out. Possibly Fosu can be that guy.
Right Winger... Who do we go for?
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I like this, if we’re lucky we can also get a young-ish prospect to phase/replace Valencia out. Possibly Fosu can be that guy.
?I think he was offered one, but he rejected it. Soon, Jose will coerce him into signing one - he's too important to him and us.
Mohamed Salah wasted a couple years at Chelsea, but now a top scorer in the league.
I really like Mahrez, I'm not sure why we aren't in for him. Every time I see Leicester play he does something magical with the ball and it always baffles me why he's still there.
He did well in Italy after wasting those years though.
How good is Gelson Martins.
Just bought him on FM18 due to a great scout report
Edit: So just watched a youtube video. In a fast direct build up, his dribbling is insane. I wouldn't wanna defend against him running at you.
Just bought him on FM18 due to a great scout report
Edit: So just watched a youtube video. In a fast direct build up, his dribbling is insane. I wouldn't wanna defend against him running at you.
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A genuine winger with blistering pace, although his decision-making is down there with the worst.How good is Gelson Martins.
Just bought him on FM18 due to a great scout report
Edit: So just watched a youtube video. In a fast direct build up, his dribbling is insane. I wouldn't wanna defend against him running at you.
This is his Whoscored page.
I really don't get the hype about Malcom, I watched the second half against Marseille to see what the fuss is about and he was quite frustrating to watch. As far as I can remember he only had one good pass where he lay the ball of in the box, but otherwise he constantly lost the ball and his passing and decision making was quite bad most of the time. For me he wasn't even close to Rashford even though that's not his best position. And I have the feeling that everybody is just jumping on the train because of his stats and the fact that he is Brazilian...
But to be fair I haven't seen any other games of his and am open to change my mind.
But to be fair I haven't seen any other games of his and am open to change my mind.
Have you seen Leon Bailey?
You have just perfectly highlighted the exact profile of player that United have been crying out for since Nani circa 2010.How good is Gelson Martins.
Just bought him on FM18 due to a great scout report
Edit: So just watched a youtube video. In a fast direct build up, his dribbling is insane. I wouldn't wanna defend against him running at you.
Nope not jet, but he is on my list and I heard he was quite good against Leipzig. I just have the feeling that he is similar to Malcom... exciting, but in my opinion not the thing we need. Still think someone like Perisic on the right would have been/would be perfect, but apparently there is no one out there...
What are your thoughts on Malcom and Bailey?
United right wing problems have lingered for a long time and there are plenty of options in the market to attain a player who can master the right flank without any worry. Riyad Mahrez, Gareth Bale or Antoine Griezmann should be our options because these are players who can play on the right and are strong left footed players. I think we can get a good left back in Rose in the winter but i think we can attain a good right winger only in the summer. We should also keep a close look on Dybala as well, as we think he can be a fantastic addition to our team.
It is turning into a Pogba team and i love it because he has great connections with the team and he can play quick to and fro passes as well as pick out the odd long pass or a piercing pass to find the wingers and the striker for the goal. What's better , he can score himself from long range and and on both foot.
I think United are gonna rise again and give City a run for their Sheik money.
It is turning into a Pogba team and i love it because he has great connections with the team and he can play quick to and fro passes as well as pick out the odd long pass or a piercing pass to find the wingers and the striker for the goal. What's better , he can score himself from long range and and on both foot.
I think United are gonna rise again and give City a run for their Sheik money.
Love Bailey. I think he is exactly what we need and is my first choice.
Malcolm is my second choice.
Would you be more open to us signing a wing-back than an out and out winger?
And what is your reason for preferring Perisic?
I watched him for 45 minutes away to Rennes and thought he was quite poor, and yet I still think that it would make sense to acquire him. Watching Bordeaux, I got the sense that they were a very poor team, who are far too reliant in Malcom to create all on his own. His decision-making can improve; what generally doesn't improve significantly is your technical ability. When I watched him (And also when I looked at highlight clips), I felt that there's a very talented player in there, with the problem being that he's held back by inferior team-mates.
As I said I haven't seen Bailey, but now I'm more intrigued than ever
and you know how I feel about Malcom.I just think that most of the guys mentioned on here are more inside forwards than actual wingers. I think we need someone who hugs the touchline and whips in accurate crosses as soon as someone is in the box.
The problem with another inside forward, in my opinion, is, that they benefit from or even need an attacking minded fullback to overlap and I think Mourinho usually plays with one attacking and one defensive fullback. So, I would like the attacking one on the left to partner with Rashford/Martial and the defensive one on the right. A winger on the right would then be also more defensive than an inside forward and wouldn't leave as much space open.
I don't know if this is understandable, have a bit of a problem to articulate my thoughts...
As said above I think he isn't an actual winger, which I think we need. Plus we have so many young, talented players and not many experienced ones in attack, so I would go for experience over talent. But as I said I only watched him for 45 minutes and your point that Bordeaux is not as good is of course true. And I would be lying if I said that I wouldn't be excited about a new young, talented attacker... just not convinced yet.
You have articulated very well.As I said I haven't seen Bailey, but now I'm more intrigued than ever
I just think that most of the guys mentioned on here are more inside forwards than actual wingers. I think we need someone who hugs the touchline and whips in accurate crosses as soon as someone is in the box.
The problem with another inside forward, in my opinion, is, that they benefit from or even need an attacking minded fullback to overlap and I think Mourinho usually plays with one attacking and one defensive fullback. So, I would like the attacking one on the left to partner with Rashford/Martial and the defensive one on the right. A winger on the right would then be also more defensive than an inside forward and wouldn't leave as much space open.
I don't know if this is understandable, have a bit of a problem to articulate my thoughts...
You should check out Bailey - he is fun to watch.
Regarding the point about an inside forward/traditional winger:
- I agree with you
- I think that a player that stays wide and primarily supplies our forward(s) with assists rather than constantly looking to linkup play through the middle would be beneficial for us
- an important one because we have to remember that this is not our team, it's Mourinho's and any winger that we may sign will have to fit well into a Jose side
- I notice that you would like an attacking winger on the left to go with an attacking forward like Martial...
- so two attack-minded players on the left
- ... and a defensive full-back to go with a defensive winger on the right
- so two defensive-minded players on the right
@TheOrgazoid, the attacking fullback IMO, should be the LB as Rashford and Martial prefer to cut in, so the LB would be overlapping them. A defensive fullback on the right is more ideal since the winger will stay wide.
Valencia is okay as the RB, so a real wide-oriented right winger and an attacking LB will be nice.
Valencia is okay as the RB, so a real wide-oriented right winger and an attacking LB will be nice.
Pulisic please.
Martial --- Lukaku ---- Pulisic
Grizz
Pogba Matic
Martial --- Lukaku ---- Pulisic
Grizz
Pogba Matic
I can tell you like your marquee type signings. Problem is Manchester United have champagne tastes and a beer budget. We need 4 or 5 players but can't fill the holes in the squad if we spend half to our entire budget on one player. BTW Bale is on 600k per week and misses 40% of Real Madrid's games through injury so would be a poor investment.
You're right but the fact that we have lost Rooney and a couple of high wage players in the winter of 2017, i think we can look for a decent player. Although Bale might be a big ask, i get that. Dreams of a good United team always lingers in my mind and players like Bale would make our team so good.
United do not have a beer budget. We have more available than 99% of teams in Europe. We spent 140 Million and were in for Griezmann who is atleast 80mill. Do you not think if he was available, we could of passed 220 million?
City Net spend was 147 million which is similar to ours. If we offload the likes of - Shaw, Lingard, Lindelof, Darmian, Miki, Blind any 3 or 4 of them would fetch a cool 80 million in todays market
I agree we do have the budget. Now people are going to say that why didn't we buy Perisic then. The question was not about the money but trying to pay what each player's actual worth is.... in the brand value sense as well as playing ability. Perisic was being quoted at 45m or so which for his age is pretty high and paying so much money for a slightly above average player would hold us ransom for our potentially future transfers. I don't think Ed was willing to do that. I'm pretty sure if Griezmann was available, he would have splashed the cash easily.
As far as offloading, Mhiki himself would command 30m. I think Mhiki will come good and he's a great squad player to have. But if we plan on selling him, I would sell him to Athletico in the Griezmann deal or even sell him to Juventus in some sort of the Dybala deal.
He was out a game due to some injury and has been poor the next three games after that.
So there're two options imo: he was on a purple patch before or he's not 100% fit now.
We have never spent anywhere near 310m on player transfers in a season and I seriously doubt the board would authorise that level of investment. We could fund part of the amount through player sales however you seriously overestimate the value of our players. Look at how much money we have got from past player sales. The players we have to sell would not be valuable on the transfer market. What club would pay 20m per player for those players you listed? Historically we get peanuts from player sales because we brought poorly in the first place.
I would be happy to be proven wrong and suddenly see the budget go from 150m to 300m but doubt that's going to happen under the greddy Glazers. Please come back to this forum next summer and let us review the level of transfers and see if you are correct or not.
We got most of Scherderlin money back.
let me remind you, Zappacosta cost 22million, why wouldn't Darmia?
Oxlade 34 million, Sahko 24 million, Ake 20 million, Arnautovic 20million, Adrien Silva 22 million, Ihenacho 24million, Drinkwater 34million, Kevin Wimmer 17 million, Clucas 14 million (English), Chris Wood 14 million (Australian), Andre Gray 18 million Izquierdo 13 million
Blind is a dutch international who can play all across midfield and defence, if Klassen cost 24 million Blind would be around that.
Some of these names are nobodies, even English nobodies. Lingard is a frequent England international so we could clearly ship him for 20 odd to some prem team like Newcastle. he plays for the national Team!
Shaw would obviously cost a fair buck. He was once the great FB hype and is still young. He would suit a side like Everton and I am sure he would have a queue of suiters in the premier league looking to splash a cool 25 million on him. could be Baines replacement at the Toffees, and again another prem side like Newcastle.
Darmian would be a candidate for Serie A big new spenders like Milan or Inter. possibly Roma or Juve would take a punt. We could deffo get some change out of these lads.
The glazers are far from greedy. you are super ungrateful. They bankrolled Pogba, Di Maria, Herrea etc when he hadn't even won shite. you need some perspective
I'd take Mahrez, but I want Pulisic.
Leon Bailey please.
I want a player with craft and brains, not just a speedy winger who scores the odd screamer, Pulisic is by far my #1 choice but I think we'll go for Soler.
You said the Glazers are not greedy and that they have bankrolled all the players you listed. The Glazers have taken out over 1 Billion from the club over the last ten years so I would say they are parasites. That 1 Billion could have been used to buy players that would probably win us a CL or two. The Glazers have not dipped into their own pockets to buy those players you named instead they have used the clubs profits to buy players and have stripped money out of the club for loan repayments, interest payments and dividends.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...1billion-from-manchester-united-10244576.html
I also disagree with your assessment of the value of our potential outward player transfers. History shows Manchester United seldom gets good money for players we no longer want. Chelsea and Spurs often get good money for their players but not Manchester United, for example, look at what we got for Evans, Evra, Zaha, Kagawa, Depay.
Son Heung Min would be a good choice. Pretty tall, Prem proven and highly lethal. Good for counter attacking and on the end of long balls.
Worth the eventual Levy tax
Worth the eventual Levy tax
Pulisic is my first choice too, but he's like ?19. Malcom would be nice too.
I don't really watch other leagues closely other than the PL, but it seems like Bailey and Pulisic are the popular choice in this thread.
Would really love a Hazard in our team Excellent dribbler, team player, strong and rapid.
Any other available players out there similar to Hazard?
Would really love a Hazard in our team
Excellent dribbler, team player, strong and rapid.Any other available players out there similar to Hazard?
virtually all owners buy players from club profits as clubs operate as a business, unless sugar daddy owned. Welcome to the football world. Who actually uses their own money nowadays? Buying the club put them 700 million in the red as they didn't have the initial capital so this is old news.
regarding players. Our previous sales were under different managers. Jose always seemed good at selling players. He got £100 million back in 2015 for chelsea sales, £52 million in 2014 (winter alone), and of course the £40million at Man Utd in winter
Why? Wouldn't a more direct winger be more exciting than one that always seeks to make one-two?
Surely we already have that type with Mata and Mhki.
I wouldn't want Bailey. Good player, but his father is a bit of a bellend and Bailey himself is a clown.
He was given lots of opportunities by Genk, who are famous for the development of youngsters. One of the reasons Bailey's father was forcing Leon to go to Leverkusen was about Genk not being prepared to put his brother in the first team. He just wasn't ready for it, and is now playing in the second league in Belgium...
Decent read about it:
http://fussballstadt.com/leon-bailey-supertalent-bayer/
He was given lots of opportunities by Genk, who are famous for the development of youngsters. One of the reasons Bailey's father was forcing Leon to go to Leverkusen was about Genk not being prepared to put his brother in the first team. He just wasn't ready for it, and is now playing in the second league in Belgium...
Decent read about it:
http://fussballstadt.com/leon-bailey-supertalent-bayer/
Those type of showpony players are not what is missing IMO, we need more direct attacking threat from the fullbacks on both sides, but we need more clever creativity in the final 3rd as we are solely reliant of Pogba right now.
In all honesty, we need a Sane type player for the right wing. Any ideas of players with Sane attributes and could play on the right?
Perhaps Malcom, but he's not technically as good as Sane.
Draxler seems to match Sane but he seems to be used pretty regularly by PSG these days. He'll be difficult to take from PSG.
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