My recommendation for 20 millions
Right Winger... Who do we go for?
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My recommendation for 20 millions
Really trying to flog him aren't you?
We don't need a right winger. Sign a left back, a right back, Kane and Ozil. 2-4-4 formation. feck it.
Hows Draxler?My recommendation for 20 millions
We don't have a single proper right winger in our squad.
PSG is as follows:
- Starting 11
- Super subs (6): Meunier (LB) + Berchiche (RB) + Kimpembe + Draxler + Lo Celso + Di MARIA
- Question mark: Pastore (generally injured), Guedes (loaned)
- Back-Up: Nkunku...
- No Future: Lucas Moura (if Emery stays), Krychowiak (loaned), Ben ARFA,...
Draxler won't move this winter IMO
With proper fullbacks, who wants/needs wingers? 3 "up front", but 2 of them staying wide? No wonder we struggle to score. You could put Messi Ronaldo and Neymar across the front, it wouldn't fix the inherent setup and personnel issues.
Many top teams don't. I have no idea if we need one or not as that's up to the manager and how he wants to play. I just don't understand the view that we definitely need one when there are so few around which would indicate that very few teams are using traditional wingers anymore.
Was thinking about Zaha lately. I don't know if it was wrong to let him go at first, but now he look far better player than he was before. Palace are going down this season and he'll surely think about moving. We can get him for about 20-30m I believe.
We largely struggle to score for the exact opposite reason. Our wingers like to cut in and against teams that park the bus against us (the vast majority of our opposition we've faced), wingers that move centrally is the last thing you need. We need wingers that stay out wide and stretch the game out and spread the opposition out in order to create space for the attackers playing centrally.
But the top teams at least have genuine wingers playing in their preferred position. Just look at the wingers in our squad: Rashford and Martial who play on the left for us are both arguably strikers (though I would personally say that Martial is better on the left), Miki is better playing as a CAM, Lingard is better as a CAM or on the left but plays on the right and Mata is also much more creative centrally, but plays on the right.
Is Griezmann a rw? I reckon he plays centrally.
Who? What preferred position? De Bruyne made his name as a winger for Wolfsburg, he is a midfielder now. Bale became a world beater as a left winger, he is playing on the right now. Ronaldo the other way around. Sterling, Sane, Hazard, Sanchez played everywhere behind the striker. There are no fixed positions with the top players and among the top clubs. They expect players rightfully to be fluid and comfortable in different positions. What we need like everyone else needs, is balance. Pace, technique, passing quality, etc ... all need to exist to some degree and it is unimportant where exactly do these qualities come from whether it is from full backs, midfielders, wingers or strikers.
I agree, the suggestions are often speed merchants that stay wide, but truth is very few teams use that type of winger anymore, that is the fullback's job, what our attack is missing is incision and guile in the final 3rd, I do think we need to upgrade 2 of the front 4 options but I don't think it's a specific type of player, he just needs to have technique, vision, brains and a bit of pace.
That's the fullbacks job, if our fullbacks pushed on beyond the wide forwards when we attack the space would open up, but our fullbacks always sit deep and leave our wide attackers isolated, so when they drift in the fullbacks can squeeze the space with the CB's and we get choked out.
The players you've mentioned are world class and/or are versatile, quick and technical enough to play in a variety of positions. I'll break it down further about the players that play in behind the striker in our squad to elaborate on my point. Mata lacks the pace to run in behind or take on pretty much any full back in the world, but he is technically sound, which helps to keep possession. However, he often slows down our play by cutting back when playing out wide.
Lingard is fast and makes clever runs in behind, but simply isn't: technically good enough, clinical in front of goal or particularly good at dribbling past full backs out wide.
Miki is effectively a considerably better version of Lingard, but he's also not the best when it comes to dribbling past players and doesn't quite have the sheer speed to simply outpace most fullbacks when dribbling out wide.
Rashford is incredible quick and has the ability to use that attribute to get past full backs. However, he's not the best technical dribbler and often over-relies on sheer pace to get past opposition players.
Martial on paper is imo our best winger as he is very good technical dribbler (on the left) and he can cut just as easily inside or outside when running at a defender. However, his left foot isn't the best, so whenever he has played on the right, he rarely cuts inside to take a shot on his left foot (which a young Ronaldo used to do all the time). This makes it easier to defend against.
On the right wing, we don't really have a player that has a combination of technical ability, pace and dribbling ability (as I have outlined above).
That's true, if our full backs could regularly get forward and accurately cross the ball into the box, we would be creating much more. But, surely the same argument could also be made that if our wingers could take on full backs more effectively, then we wouldn't be as reliant on our full backs to do that.
If we had a winger with the ability to easily run past full backs while keeping the width of the pitch like Perisic, we wouldn't be struggling to break down defensively set teams as much imo. Of course better offensive full backs can also remedy this problem, but from a perhaps selfish POV I'd prefer if we had a tricky, pacy winger than a full back that makes overlapping runs and makes accurate crosses.
Mahrez anyone?
Fair enough, I personally don't want to see players of the Perisic ilk at United, I like dynmaic fullbacks that can provide attacking width so the two wide forwards can tuck in and link up with the #9, something I think is important with Lukaku as he's better at quick lay offs than hold-up play, he benefits more if we can get the two wide forwards nearer to him to create an attacking trident while the fullbacks bomb on to stretch the game and offer an extra passing option for the CM's.
Totally disagree. You can't expect a front three to score all the goals, carry the threat through the middle and provide all the width to stretch teams. It's easy for a back 4 and 2 deep midfielders to deal with a threat like this, regardless of instruction or player quality.
Having quality fullbacks getting forward would transform this team. Why on earth should Manchester United have 6 defensive players on the pitch, ever? It's chicken shit football.
Anyways, I'm off topic.
Can we not get a big name signing? Id rather we go for a wonderkid and hope he develops into a WC player like Hazard did
Willian?
Christian Pulisic?
Mahrez in January? Someone has to give him a shot.
The obvious one is to throw money at Sanchez.
Excited to see Richarlison develop. Loads of endproduct at the moment - and a brazilian in England. Should have a full year before jumping on the bandwagon though. Mostly plays on the left but looks talented enough to also play on the right.
And we need fullbacks badly too! Buy some talent, Ed - in the long run Lukakus all over are expensive
Excited to see Richarlison develop. Loads of endproduct at the moment - and a brazilian in England. Should have a full year before jumping on the bandwagon though. Mostly plays on the left but looks talented enough to also play on the right.
And we need fullbacks badly too! Buy some talent, Ed - in the long run Lukakus all over are expensive
Carlos Soler.
Pulisic would be ideal IMO. Can play either wing, bags of pace, ability, and potential. Reportedly a childhood United fan which is nice and given that he's the great hope for football in the USA his commercial value is immense. Only problem is how to fit him, Martial, Rashford and Lukaku into the same 11. Dortmund would demand a high fee but I'd honestly prefer paying up for him than drop a bomb on the permanently injured Bale, or shoehorn Griezmann out wide.
Yeah that's fair enough as well. You're right, Lukaku is better at quick lay offs than holding on to the ball with little support around him. But, Lukaku is also considerably better in the box than he is out of it and if our wingers stayed out wide, Lukaku would have more space in the box, where he's deadly. But, I agree that we really do need attacking full backs, along with a right winger that is comfortable cutting inside as well as outside in order to provide more attacking options. What I mean by that is, currently teams put 1 player to mark Mata/Lingard and another on Valencia when he makes the overlapping runs and generally that's good enough to stop our attack on that side (unless Mata/Herrera provides a really incisive through ball to Valencia). Notice how teams almost always put 2 players to mark either Martial or Rashford as they are much more deadly dribbling on the ball. But, our left backs simply don't get forward enough to support and that oftens leads to dispossession or cutting the ball back.
So, I really think we could do with a new Right winger and a Left Back (unless Shaw is miraculously given a chance and shows his pre-injury form). But, obviously this thread was about right wingers, so I didn't comment earlier about us needing a new left back as well, but I agree with your points.
Nope, that's not what I said/meant. We need both attacking wingers and attacking full backs. If we only had either attacking wingers or attacking full backs, it would be easy to defend against. Currently, we have attacking wingers on the left, but defensive full backs and on the right we have an attacking full back, but defensive wingers (or at the least unable to dribble past a defender). So, like I mentioned above, I think we could do with both a new attacking RW with the qualities I mentioned in the previous comment and a new LB that can bomb forward and is strong offensively.
Just to throw a few names into the pot:-
Leon Bailey---Leverkusen
Malcom-------Bordeaux
Ante Coric----Zagreb
Pulisic--------Dortmund
These are all young Players 20/21 already playing with their clubs, who can play right or left wing, or centrally. Leon Bailey would probably be my pick. what do you think.
Maybe Mourinho would rather go for a more established player but all these would have a sell on value.
Leon Bailey---Leverkusen
Malcom-------Bordeaux
Ante Coric----Zagreb
Pulisic--------Dortmund
These are all young Players 20/21 already playing with their clubs, who can play right or left wing, or centrally. Leon Bailey would probably be my pick. what do you think.
Maybe Mourinho would rather go for a more established player but all these would have a sell on value.
It was obvious we needed a right winger all summer yet we did nothing about it. The only real link was to a left winger that plays in the same position as Rashford and Martial.
We need a goalscorer that can play here more than any other position on the park because, at present, our options are an out of form Mata and a relentlessly average Lingard. I maintain Mourinho should be getting more out of our attack, however, this is an area we need to improve.
We need a goalscorer that can play here more than any other position on the park because, at present, our options are an out of form Mata and a relentlessly average Lingard. I maintain Mourinho should be getting more out of our attack, however, this is an area we need to improve.
Lucas Vasquez anyone ? Given our options in the current squad, I reckon he could be a starter here. Very underrated.
Malcolm Bordeaux obvious choice.
People are arguing about whether we should get quality fullbacks or quality wingers. We are supposedly the richest club in the world why can't we have quality fullbacks and quality wingers instead of shoehorning failed wingers into fullback roles and using midfielders and strikers into winger positions. It's obvious we need width to out attack. We should spend the money and fill the holes in the squad. Forget about marquee players for marketing purposes just fill the holes in the squad with quality players regardless of marketing cache. Also we do need a clear out of the deadwood in the squad as our squad has too much quantity and not enough quality. If a player is not United standard they should be shipped out.
100% agreed mate.
I get the feeling that the board were unwilling to spend £40 million on Perisic as he isn’t very marketable.
I hope we give Periera a shot there. He's looking pretty good on the wing for Valencia.
Can we buy Wilfried Zaha back? Let him terrorise opposition defenders from the right.
He has improved massively.
Heart, grit, pace, trickery. He can track back like Jose likes 'em. He can score. His crossing is very decent. Your classical touchline hugging, pain in the neck (for opponents) winger. Plus, he'll be returning home.
He has improved massively.
Heart, grit, pace, trickery. He can track back like Jose likes 'em. He can score. His crossing is very decent. Your classical touchline hugging, pain in the neck (for opponents) winger. Plus, he'll be returning home.
Might be a bit short term but Jose Callejón has been very consistent since joining Napoli
He's already at home. Plus hasn't he been playing upfront? I think Zaha wouldn't be up for it and would rather move elsewhere than here, from all accounts he didn't enjoy his time at United.
Our new no. 7?
Looks like the kind of player we needSpeaking of the options at the position, Oyarzabal scored another goal today:
Brings his tally up to 6 goals and 2 assists in ~660 minutes in La Liga and the Europa League:
Given the improvement in his game in terms of finishing, he could have a chance to equal Griezmann's total of 19 goals for La Real in 2013/14 - which is the highest figure for a Sociedad player since the return to La Liga in 2010, and led to the transfer to Atlético.
Brings his tally up to 6 goals and 2 assists in ~660 minutes in La Liga and the Europa League:
Given the improvement in his game in terms of finishing, he could have a chance to equal Griezmann's total of 19 goals for La Real in 2013/14 - which is the highest figure for a Sociedad player since the return to La Liga in 2010, and led to the transfer to Atlético.
Shame Zaha wasn't just loaned out, his passing and decision making has improved alot. Would loved to have seen him given the chance to play under Mou
The Zaha deal with Palace seems to indicate there is a buy back and sell on clause....hmm
Where are you reading that?
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