Definitely.
Also, saying "let's just stick with Rafael and Valencia" is ignoring both reality and the point of this thread.
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Definitely.
Also, saying "let's just stick with Rafael and Valencia" is ignoring both reality and the point of this thread.
There isn't one decent option on the market right now. I doubt we go for Coleman, when we played Everton you could see that we were targeting his side. If we wanted Clyne, we'd be much more advanced by now.
I'd try everything to get Carvajal in the DDG deal, only solution I can think of.
I'd try everything to get Carvajal in the DDG deal, only solution I can think of.
The assumption was actually broad based, in that if we were to assume we would buy one, who would it be and also a semi second question of who do you want it to be. This is based on the the fact that having a clue who it would be is very difficult.
I no longer rate rafael, he needs to be replaced. I also don't rate Valencia, however asi alluded to in OP, i have a sneaky suspicion lvg liked him very much in that position. He just died what he's told. There were a few quotes at the end of the season that were glowing of Valencia.
Regardless, it seems clear rafael is gone so we need a right back regardless, whether that is a first choice ahead of Valencia or a second choice behind is a moot point as we'll no doubt just go for the best we can
Coleman, he's class. Very underrated on the caf.
What are the chances of Young doing a job at RB?
Genuine question.
He's better going forward than Valencia, also follows LVG'S instructions, defended well when asked to play wingback and I always felt he was more comfortable on the right.
Stop gap solution at best but I don't see many other realistic options
Genuine question.
He's better going forward than Valencia, also follows LVG'S instructions, defended well when asked to play wingback and I always felt he was more comfortable on the right.
Stop gap solution at best but I don't see many other realistic options
Should be easy enough considering Madrid have bought Danilo.
I think Coleman would be our best bet.
I thought we'd have Clyne by now, I guess our interested was exaggerated.
With all this uncertainty I have the faintest hope that a new deal for Rafael is on the cards.
Rafael
This idea that Manchester United couldn't find a right back better then Antonio Valencia is as absurd, as it is hilarious, in equal measure.
Just because theres no 'big names', doesn't mean there isn't players out there. Its not like Clyne, Coleman, Alves and Darmian are the only 4 right backs in the world. Considering we have scouts all over the world, I'd be deeply concerned if none of them could find a better option then a converted right winger.
Just because theres no 'big names', doesn't mean there isn't players out there. Its not like Clyne, Coleman, Alves and Darmian are the only 4 right backs in the world. Considering we have scouts all over the world, I'd be deeply concerned if none of them could find a better option then a converted right winger.
I have little knowledge about the current right back market but I think you are wrong only a handful of teams have a decent RB or LB, It's the most complicated position to feel in football.
I really don't get why we aren't going for Coleman.
He'll be 27 early in the season and he's all about pace going forward, so considering the amount Everton would want (Coleman has 4 years left!), I'm not sure it's a good idea. If he cost 25-30 million pounds, I don't think he'd outplay that and he'll have little little resell value at 30 or 31.
He might end up the best option, but that would say more about the market than him as a signing.
94 posts and we've got:
- Coleman
- Clyne
- Darmian
- Valencia
- Rafael
- Carvajol
- Young
- Sidibe
- Ivanovic
As a stop gap RB, yeah. If some people were willing to put Dani Alves' name in before he signed a new contract, I don't see why Piszczek isn't worth a consideration.
I had his name coming back several times about who we should get to solve our RB problem, even if it's temporary. Anyway, I can't stand that crap with Valencia and the always-injured Rafael any more.
That isn't far away from his value though. Pay anything more than 15m-17m for any of the current (potentially available) RB's and we would be massively overpaying for them. Plus, Evans is a CB a team like Everton can definitely use; Martinez would love his on the ball ability.
I actually wouldn't be averse to us singing someone out of the blue, a player like Azpilcueta. What is the use of a scouting department if all they can come up with is Coleman, Clyne and Alves?
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"Manchester United will go up against Roma to sign PSG defender Gregory van der Wiel" is what I read this morning. Makes sense if we're after Cillessen and Vlaar and plan to stick Blind at LB...
What the latest on De Jung as our next DCM?
What the latest on De Jung as our next DCM?
All the names I hear sound so uninspiring for a club like Manchester United.
We need to try to get proper player in, like Madrid did with Carvajal, who has all the ability on the ball to play for a top team.
We need to try to get proper player in, like Madrid did with Carvajal, who has all the ability on the ball to play for a top team.
Yes not a bad call at all. Nearest thing to Ivanovic. A year left on his contract (why wold Dortmund have allowed that to happen?) & would be good value, both fee & salary wise. On the down side we might have to offer him four years. Maybe he's a target but Ed is waiting to seal Hummels before hitting them with, "oh & while the cheque book is out...".
Rafa is a crock
Do not disagree but we need to get a proper RB in place of Valencia. Going forward, he does not provide anywhere near enough and his positioning is suspect most times as a RB. Not that I blame him as it is not his position. If we cannot get a RB of our choice, I would prefer to give Rafa one more shot.
I haven't watched Lille this season, so i really can't help you. I have always liked Corchia, though. In Ligue 1 there is Fabinho who is young and promising.
For those suggesting Piszcek, He's as much of a crock as Rafael isn't he?
What we should do is get someone like Ricardo Rodriguez and hypnotize him into believing he's right-footed. Piece of cake.
What we should do is get someone like Ricardo Rodriguez and hypnotize him into believing he's right-footed. Piece of cake.
I agree. Ideally we should bring 2 RBs. However we would settle down for the time being with just 1
I cannot take another year of Valencia. Just can't do it.
I don't know why we don't just get Clyne and be done with it.
Available for about £12-15m
Relatively young
Good in defence and attack
As good as Coleman but younger and cheaper (due to contract situation)
Better than Valencia and Rafael
Fitter than Rafael
Counts as homegrown
Get Clyne, keep Valencia, sell Rafael. Sorted - it's easy this football stuff.
Available for about £12-15m
Relatively young
Good in defence and attack
As good as Coleman but younger and cheaper (due to contract situation)
Better than Valencia and Rafael
Fitter than Rafael
Counts as homegrown
Get Clyne, keep Valencia, sell Rafael. Sorted - it's easy this football stuff.
Sidibe is an absolute joke such as a lot of Lille's player. Not great technicaly and not very good going forward. Corchia was a good prospect when he decided to go to Sochaux, but he just stopped progressing at Lille.
Fabinho is good, but I still ask to see him in a full season.
I saw this morning that we're once again linked with Van der Wiel.... If this happens to be true, that transfer will be like the Bellions, Djemba Djembas, Miller, JOKE JOKE JOKE !
I'm sure that I'm better than him. The guy is so poor, I'm really afraid about having him at United. He's so poor that I rather spend another 10 seasons with Valencia !
I didn't wanted to slate Sidibe on the base of last season, but you did it for me. For Corchia you are right he stagnated but he has the technical tools so maybe he can do a Debuchy and reinvent himself in a better club with a better coach.This also happens alot in spain where pacey wingers get converted to wingbacks/full backs. From what i understand Alves and Vidal were both converted from wingers, im assuming there's more? Not sure if Young has the defensive abilities to be a permanent fixture at right back but he sure would help our attack going forward from there.
There is also Juanfran and Lichsteiner who was more a right midfielder/Wing back than a fullback. Evra and Lizarazu, too.
I would keep Rafael, but failing that it has to be Coleman or Clyne.
He would definitely be better going forward than Valencia and defensively his positioning is better than Valencia, not as good in one on one's though. First choice would be a new world class RB, but I don't see many available in the market. For me someone like Clyne is a minor upgrade that will need to be upgraded eventually anyway, so why bother now.
Young has proven he cannot be written off and will put a shift in.
Micah Richards is free 
Why can't we just sign Darmian and be done with it?
Probably exactly what will happen. Clyne is the guy we've most been linked with and seems the most likely option. The delay could just be negotiating tactics, especially if we're also interested in Schneiderlin.
Think Bayern are also interested? I guess he'd choose them over us if it came down to it.
That is exactly what I think will happen. I think we were initially interested in Clyne but got our head turned by Alves.
Alves played half of Europe to get more the contract he wanted now we are back to Clyne or Coleman.
I would prefer Coleman, but I think we'll end up with Clyne.
Clyne with Valencia as backup does not sound bad.... or according to Scholes we Jones can play there as well
When you start seeing van der Wiel and Clyne as genuine options you know it's time to stick with Valencia.
Yes, there's no outstanding & available candidate. I remember a decent midfield player filling in there on occasion, one Roy Keane. So there's a president for a midfield player going there when no suitable alternative can be found. If Valencia can play there & Keane, then another young midfield prospect might also be adaptable enough, to improve on what we have at present, until he can move into midfield when Carrick retires. How about James McCarthy?