Richard Dunne...

ya he's quick but if you remember him up against henry or any really quick strikers he cant deal with them. but of dunne hyping going on here
 
lem8sh said:
He's very quick
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He's faster than you'd think. But very quick is a stretch. You wouldn't call Ws Brown very quick but I reckon he'd beat him in a straight running race.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
...is like Vidic with pace.

The ludicrous over-hyping of Micah Richards could only happen with this bloke covering his arse; easily the most under-rated central defender in the league.

I honestly believe that he is behind Rio and Carvalho as the third best centre-half in the PL. You can keep your John Terry and your Carragher, Richard Dunne is the man.
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meh
 
Isn't he more of a classic defender in the sense that he's a good tackler, good in the air, decent at reading the game, but isn't really that good with the ball? Both Rio and Vidic are very good with the ball at their feet, and are a big part of our regular build up play.

I obviously haven't watched him as much as you Irish, but that's my impression from what I have seen.
 
He is a fantastic player. If he was English he'd be rated as one of the best defenders in the world. He was absolutely amazing tonight, as he usually is. What an underrated player.
 
djemba's arse said:
Isn't he more of a classic defender in the sense that he's a good tackler, good in the air, decent at reading the game, but isn't really that good with the ball? Both Rio and Vidic are very good with the ball at their feet, and are a big part of our regular build up play.

I obviously haven't watched him as much as you Irish, but that's my impression from what I have seen.
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he played a fifty yard ball straight into McGreedy's feet earlier on tonight. He's not bad at everything, really
 
djemba's arse said:
Isn't he more of a classic defender in the sense that he's a good tackler, good in the air, decent at reading the game, but isn't really that good with the ball? Both Rio and Vidic are very good with the ball at their feet, and are a big part of our regular build up play.

I obviously haven't watched him as much as you Irish, but that's my impression from what I have seen.
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He's a defender though. Who cares if he doesn't pass it 50 yards to one of his teamates. As a defender, an out and out defender, he is outstanding.
 
I remember he got in the Everton team at 17, but obviously after a while he became a bit too fond of the gargle. But hes been really good the last 3 or 4 years.
Hes quicker than Vidic although i'd say Vidic is better in the air and better on the ball.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
...is like Vidic with pace.

The ludicrous over-hyping of Micah Richards could only happen with this bloke covering his arse; easily the most under-rated central defender in the league.

I honestly believe that he is behind Rio and Carvalho as the third best centre-half in the PL. You can keep your John Terry and your Carragher, Richard Dunne is the man.
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He's good yes. He's Underrated.. yes.

But he's not better than Vidic. That's just fecking silly.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I honestly believe that he is behind Rio and Carvalho as the third best centre-half in the PL.
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Pogue Mahone said:
He's not quite as strong in the air as Vidic and he's not as good on the ball as Vidic (something people don't give Vidic enough credit for) so no, I don't think he's better.
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Seeing as none of ye picked up on my ahem... deliberate mistake... I might as well correct my own self.

I think Dunne is the fourth best centre-half in the league. And a better first line would have been "...like Terry/Carragher with pace"

I would definitely have him in my side ahead of both of those (ludicrously over-rated) cnuts, mind you.
 
I think that if Dunne were English, he would be in the England squad. He may not be as good as players like Rio and Vidic, but he is certainly better than Matthew Upson.
 
Dunne, underrated by most. He has improved massively over the last 3 years or so. My Citeh mates say what he has added is consistency, he used to put in a performance one game in three or four, now hes doing is most weeks.

Remember the days when he was overweight? Apparently he once turned
up for training drunk.

I rate him. Hard to say if hes better than this player or the other.

I rate Richards too as a future prospect. His reading of the game is not great though, but hes only 20. He put in a "massive" performance against us at Old Trafford last season. Hes far better than Dunne at 20.
 
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The man was instrumental in us keeping a clean sheet tonight, id honestly have his children. Best CB the Republic has had for fecking ages.......and like pogue says extremely underrated
 
KanieKaned said:
The man was instrumental in us keeping a clean sheet tonight, id honestly have his children. Best CB the Republic has had for fecking ages.......and like pogue says extremely underrated
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I'd agree with that (all except the having his kids)
 
Name Changed said:
I think that if Dunne were English, he would be in the England squad. He may not be as good as players like Rio and Vidic, but he is certainly better than Matthew Upson.
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Better than Upson and Lescott who are a bit fortunate that King is very injury prone, Woodgate is currently playing in a struggling Spurs side and has been injury prone over the years, Carragher has retired and Brown is being used at right back and that Richards has had injury problems this year as well.
 
Name Changed said:
I think that if Dunne were English, he would be in the England squad. He may not be as good as players like Rio and Vidic, but he is certainly better than Matthew Upson.
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There is no doubt about that. Dunne is a much better defender than Upson or Lescott but that's not saying that much.
 
Wonder Pigeon said:
Duff and Doyle did well too.

By the way, he's a feckin' great player and you English are feckin' idiots.
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:lol: Well in. Good player is Dunne, has a few problems controllling the booze by all accounts but a very good footballer.

BTW Ferguson picked Carra in his recent European X1 I hear? If he played for you lot you'd love him, he's back to his best this year.
 
Murphman said:
BTW Ferguson picked Carra in his recent European X1 I hear? If he played for you lot you'd love him, he's back to his best this year.
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His standards dropped visibly last season though. I doubt many people will rate him unless he puts in some really standout performances this season.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
...is like Vidic with pace.

The ludicrous over-hyping of Micah Richards could only happen with this bloke covering his arse; easily the most under-rated central defender in the league.

I honestly believe that he is behind Rio and Carvalho as the third best centre-half in the PL. You can keep your John Terry and your Carragher, Richard Dunne is the man.
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I'd agree all that. Except the bit about Richards being over hyped. The lad is real quality. But he is real young. he could only shine alongside a Dunne.
 
Brwned said:
Cannavaro was quality in the air. Great leap and he times his jumps well and normally just ended up in the right place, instinctively.
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Dunne is better than canavaro in the air however Cannavaro is better than him in every other footballing aspect. Dunne is at the end of the day a defender in the Andy o’brein(Bolton) class.

Solid and reliable but at the end of the Day he struggles when you put him in against top quality stikers. He will however always look good tidying up alongside a pacy more stylish defender.

Here is a list of prem central defenders in no particular order who are better than Dunne:

Rio
Vidic
Wes
Carragher
Agger
Skirtel
Toure
Gallas(on form)
Terry
Carvalho
Laursen
Woodgate
Distin
 
BAMSOLA said:
Dunne is better than canavaro in the air however Cannavaro is better than him in every other footballing aspect. Dunne is at the end of the day a defender in the Andy o’brein(Bolton) class.

Solid and reliable but at the end of the Day he struggles when you put him in against top quality stikers. He will however always look good tidying up alongside a pacy more stylish defender.

Here is a list of prem central defenders in no particular order who are better than Dunne:

Rio
Vidic
Wes
Carragher
Agger
Skirtel
Toure
Gallas(on form)
Terry
Carvalho
Laursen
Woodgate
Distin
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I'd agree with them all except Laursen (don't see the fuss about him he's constantly making mistakes) and Distin on the basis of the last two seasons.
 
BAMSOLA said:
Dunne is better than canavaro in the air however Cannavaro is better than him in every other footballing aspect. Dunne is at the end of the day a defender in the Andy o’brein(Bolton) class.

Solid and reliable but at the end of the Day he struggles when you put him in against top quality stikers. He will however always look good tidying up alongside a pacy more stylish defender.

Here is a list of prem central defenders in no particular order who are better than Dunne:

Rio
Vidic
Wes
Carragher
Agger
Skirtel
Toure
Gallas(on form)
Terry
Carvalho
Laursen
Woodgate
Distin
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:lol:

Bizarre misspelling aside, that comment is as unintentionally hilarious as the Chief and his whole Bramble-Zidane brain-fart.

Andy O'Brian is utter shite and Dunne is excellent. He's also quick. Quicker than at least half the central defenders in your list there.
 
crappycraperson said:
Distin's not better than Dunne either.
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Although he looked better than he actually was when he was playing alongside Dunne. Just like Micah Richards.

Richards is possibly gonna blossom into a much, much better player than Dunne, mind you. But I think the English press give him far too much credit in their partnership.
 
BAMSOLA said:
Dunne is better than canavaro in the air however Cannavaro is better than him in every other footballing aspect. Dunne is at the end of the day a defender in the Andy o’brein(Bolton) class.

Solid and reliable but at the end of the Day he struggles when you put him in against top quality stikers. He will however always look good tidying up alongside a pacy more stylish defender.

Here is a list of prem central defenders in no particular order who are better than Dunne:

Rio
Vidic
Wes
Carragher
Agger
Skirtel
Toure
Gallas(on form)
Terry
Carvalho
Laursen
Woodgate
Distin
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Stupid statement
 
Pogue Mahone said:
:lol:

Bizarre misspelling aside, that comment is as unintentionally hilarious as the Chief and his whole Bramble-Zidane brain-fart.

Andy O'Brian is utter shite and Dunne is excellent. He's also quick. Quicker than at least half the central defenders in your list there.
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Dunne is far from excellent mate face it you made a mistake here. For my money Andy O'Brian is a decent mid table prem defender no more no less and thats exactly what Dunne is.

Its funny that you've chosen to forget how comical he was under Pearce and to be honest he only looks slightly better because he plays with better players who shield his mistakes more. He was a liabilty under pearce and as i've said before playing alongside Richards has made both of them look like better defenders than they actually are they complement each other well and cover for the deficiencies in the others game.

As for Brain-farts you claiming dunne to be anywhere amongst the top 5 defenders in the prem is the very definition of a brain-fart.

Look at the list i've put together and tell me where dunne fits.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Although he looked better than he actually was when he was playing alongside Dunne. Just like Micah Richards.

Richards is possibly gonna blossom into a much, much better player than Dunne, mind you. But I think the English press give him far too much credit in their partnership.
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I dunno Pogue, I reckon Distin probably was the better player during their time.

I mean, Dunne was even struggling to break into the Ireland team during that time.

I think he's taken it up another level with Richards, but his level of consistency right from 2005 has been brilliant. His level of play has taken it up a notch each season too.
 
BAMSOLA said:
Its funny that you've chosen to forget how comical he was under Pearce and to be honest he only looks slightly better because he plays with better players who shield his mistakes more. He was a liabilty under pearce
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Under Pearce their goals against record in 06/07 was brilliant, they conceded less than a goal per game and up until the last two months of the season they had the 3rd best defensive record in the league IIRC.

*Just checked, did I just pull this right out of my arse? :(

Dunne and Distin were a fantastic partnership though.
 
BAMSOLA said:
Dunne is far from excellent mate face it you made a mistake here. For my money Andy O'Brian is a decent mid table prem defender no more no less and thats exactly what Dunne is.

Its funny that you've chosen to forget how comical he was under Pearce and to be honest he only looks slightly better because he plays with better players who shield his mistakes more. He was a liabilty under pearce and as i've said before playing alongside Richards has made both of them look like better defenders than they actually are they complement each other well and cover for the deficiencies in the others game.

As for Brain-farts you claiming dunne to be anywhere amongst the top 5 defenders in the prem is the very definition of a brain-fart.

Look at the list i've put together and tell me where dunne fits.
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The very fact you're comparing his form under Pearce with his current form kind of shows you don't know what you're talking about here. But that's fair enough, in a way, if you don't follow City or Ireland, he could easily slip under your radar, he gets so little credit in the media.

He's come on in leaps and bounds these last couple of seasons (mainly because he's sorted his life out, off the field) and is one of the best central defenders in the league now.

Where would I rate him?

In order:

Rio
Carvalho
Vidic
Dunne
Toure
Terry
Carragher
Wes
Agger
Skirtel
Woodgate
Gallas(on current form)
Laursen
Distin

When it comes to Dunne/Toure/Terry/Carragher, they are all very close though but I'm gonna stick Dunne at the top, cause I can :D
 
I know a ton of Arsenal fans who desperately wanted to sign Dunne last summer and/or Christmas for good reason. Quick, strong and not afraid to get stuck in. Miles better than Gallas and would be great alongside Touré.

He's come a long way since he scored that crazy own-goal for us and nearly doubled his "tally".

Would probably walk into most of the second-tier teams behind the Big Four.
 
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